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If you haven't read Monika McGillcuddy's recent post Real Estate's Paradigm Shift you should.  It is a great account of the massive changes currently taking place in our industry and how they are perceived.  The resistance in the real estate industry to blogging and Social Networking is still strong.  Those who have embraced it are having success and understand that a future without viable venues to market ourselves is bleak.  Never has it been more important to reach out to the consumer and make a direct connect. 

 

Web 2.0 is marketing.  We are marketing ourselves, our ideas, our business in an attempt to both educate the consumer and to survive.  Marketing is by no means a new idea; it has played an active role in promoting companies, products, ideas and people for ages.  Anybody who doesn't recognize this is just foolish.   

 

I left this comment on Monika's post:

 

The one constant in our world is change.  Everything is changing all of the time.  Sometimes change starts with a barely perceptible shift in the way things are done, barely noticed by many.  While only a small percentage of us have embraced the internet and know this is the wave to ride, the direction to take our business in, there are already changes happening here in our new world.  I often wonder how many of our ranks recognize the changes happening right here in our 2.0 world.  I also wonder how many will embrace these changes.

 

Miss Rheingold 1956Sometimes I step back and watch our industry purge itself.  That is what is happening you know.  The resistance to change combined with the fear of the unknown is crippling many of the ranks in the real estate industry.  It's not just at the agent level.  We, the 2.0 world, have changed so many facets of our industry that large vendors are showing signs of eminent collapse as we demand better services that actually work for us and refuse to continue with their outdated and useless products.  We have discovered our "voice" and combined our voice is quite loud.  

 

Brian Brady and I had a conversation a while back;  we discussed the gap that entering the 2.0 world has bridged.  Before blogging and social networking agents across the nation rarely connected, heads of major corporations were untouchable icons and large companies were our drug dealers without which we thought we couldn't survive.  None of this is true any longer.  Anybody who is out of reach is out of touch and dooming themselves to inevitable failure.  We live in an interactive world in which everybody is expected to participate. 

 

What is different?  We have engaged and connected directly with the consumer eradicating the need for many of the middlemen in business's previously used to fleece us of our hard earned income.   Liberating Huh?!?  

 

My grandmother was one of 13 children of Irish and German immigrants, many of her brothers worked at the Rheingold Brewery Brooklyn plant for their entire working life.  They purchased homes and cars, paid them off, had families, put their children through college, loved their jobs, were committed to the company they worked for, and were happy.  When the company began to falter they were blown away.  Fortunately most of them were able to retire comfortably.  

 

Rheingold Coaster - Promo itemMy grandmother is the last surviving member of her immediate family; she is in her late 90's now.  I would love to share this story with her as it would bring back a flood of wonderful memories that would make her smile.  Unfortunately my grandmother has no memories any longer; she now lives in her own little world and doesn't know who any of us are. 

 

This is an interesting account of the history of the rise and fall of The Rheingold Brewing Company, and an era.  It is a testament to what a really good marketing campaign can achieve.  It is also a testament to what bad business decisions and a lack of future vision can do to destroy the empire forever.  I hope you enjoy and learn from the read: 

 

Nothing is forever...

 

 

 

Tapping Into The Rheingold Story Has A Distinctive Brooklyn Taste

 originally published on February 14, 2008 - Part 1

 

The Miss Rheingold Contest Showed Beauty Of A Marketing Brainstorm  
originally published on February 28, 2008 - Part 2

 

Miss Rheingold Beauty Contest Marketing Campaign 

 

 

 

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79 Comments on The Rise and Fall of an Empire-Rheingold Brewing Company-Marketing 101

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Some people are extremely attached to methods they have traditionally used. For them the methods are the job. Changing techniques takes all the joy out of it for them.
2:33pm • #1
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That is really a wonderful comment you made on the other post...and elaborated with a story to tell of your own. Future vision...and nothing lasts forever....gotta have change...constant...or remain stagnant...and die.
2:41pm • #2
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Laurie, thank  you for turning me onto Monika's post.  I agree that nothing ever stays the same.  I got caught up in the concept of complacency in my last career.  I will never let that happen again.  To me, every day I challenge myself to see where I am, how I can improve, and is there something I can learn today. I love AR because you can learn not only learn something about technology implementation, but about your industry and partners in your industry, what works and what does not work as well, and what to emulate.  And, I salute you in your ability to implement current technology into a first class lead generation/capture system. AJ
3:07pm • #3
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TOTOH, there are many who view us as the present day "middle man".  Of course, I dispute that. 
5:21pm • #4
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 Excellent post Lauire, change is inevitable and today, it happens so quickly and so frequently. It can be a challenge to adapt but the benefits are definitely worth the effort and the results
5:38pm • #5
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Laurie,

Thank you for the mention and link. I want you to know I read every word of those 2 articles about the Rheingold Brewery. What a history and it seemed for such a long time they did everything right. All the more important it is to listen to what is going on around you so that you can adapt and change along with it. You mentioned our rank recognizing the changes within our 2.0 world... what a good question. I wonder....do we? Do we really?

Excellent post and I'm sorry your Grandmother can't share in it. 

6:11pm • #6
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Rosario,  So sad to be them, huh?

Sally,  Recognizing that a great marketing campaign combined with a sound growth based business plan is critical to the success of any business, in any industry.  We Realtors need to recognize that it applies to us as well.

AJ, Thank you, it is important to continuously learn and apply that knowledge in order to survive.  

6:20pm • #7
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Lenn, Like you, I will never accept that. 

Marti, Thank you.  Yes it can be quite a challenge to adapt and to implement.   If we only take what we need from the changes and use the information it is better than allowing ourselves to be overwhelmed and doing nothing.  The results are most definitely worth the effort. 

Monika, Your article was fabulous!  I am so glad to hear that somebody actually read those articles.  I realize they are long and attention span can run short, but it is an important story.  Rheingold is only one of many successful companies who suffered horrid defeat.  Look at TWA and Pan American Airlines or the Wang Corporation.  All superstars at the forefront of their industries.  Gone!  

There are so many changes going on around us, on so many levels, it is not possible for any of us to even keep up with it all and still continue to run our business and service our clientèle.   If we just take what we need, recognize what will be useful to us in our market areas; utilize that which will work for us, we will be ahead of the game. 

Nobody can do it all, we just need to do what we can.   

6:28pm • #8
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Lenn, Like you, I will never accept that.

You and Lenn are wrong, Laurie.  We are middlemen.  Oh, now here's where you're both dead-on correct; we aren't ever going to be eliminated.  

Did consumers buy beer directly from Rheingold's ?  Of course not.  As more choices became available (and good, local Brooklyn brew can be had anywhere in the nation), the role of the middleman becomes even MORE important.  Consumers want a plethora of choices and demand expert advise.  Suppliers recognize the "middleman's" strong relationship with customers and integrate them into their channels of distribution by offering them wholesale costs.

Eliminate real estate and mortgage brokers and you have an illiquid market, regardless of the internet's  abilty to disseminate information.  Why?  People can't be experts at everything; that's why they turn to wine merchants, real estate brokers, stock brokers, insurance agents, grocery stores, etc for their opinion and experytise.  That's why suppliers value "middemen" as an important part of marketing channels.

We're middlemen, for sure.  Thankfully, we exist and thrive- without us the consumers' costs would skyrocket.

P.S.- You and Lenn are TECHNICALLY wrong but you're both always correct. I'm splitting hairs

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Rheingold Extra Dry BeerLaurie,

Great Post and a great beer. I loved Rheingold. My grandfather was a liquor salesman and Rheingold was the beer he sold. I still have mugs and a red Rheingld tin trays. Sorry to hear about your grandmother.

Finding activerain and becoming a blogger and understanding 2.0 has probably been the best thing I've done for my career and future.

 

 

6:54pm • #10
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Brian, My grandfather was a middle man he had his own business. He also sold Johnnie Walker. He sold to restaurants. Everyone knew him. We are middle men too. That's why we're called brokers we broker the deal between a buyer and seller.
7:16pm • #11
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Keeping up with the changing times is difficult because there seems to be no lack of new ways to market.  I feel fortunate to have been in college when the internet was really starting to get going.  I think it would have been much harder to adapt otherwise!  I do agree that it will make the difference between being successful and... well, NOT being successful.

7:18pm • #12
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Hi Laurie - your comment on Monika's post was worthy of its own post, and I'm glad to see you wrote this one.  I tried to read your Rheingold links, but right now, I have the attention span of a gnat.  So I will come back to those in the morning as they look very interesting - I skimmed the first one but want to actually read them both.

Brian's explanation of just why he feels we are middlemen makes a lot of sense, and I also undetstand what you and Lenn were saying.  I think Mitchell is right as we do typically 'broker the deal between buyer and seller'.  In that sense, that's exactly what we are.

"If we just take what we need, recognize what will be useful to us in our market areas; utilize that which will work for us, we will be ahead of the game."    So very true, and just what we should all be striving to do continually......

Love this post, and the pictures you used with it are wonderful to look at.  I'm sorry your grandmother can no longer share her memories with you.

Ann

7:42pm • #13
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Brian's explanation of just why he feels we are middlemen makes a lot of sense, and I also undetstand what you and Lenn were saying.

I'm splitting hairs.  I'm proud to be a middleman.  Lenn, Laurie, and I are saying the exact same thing

7:45pm • #14
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I am sorry about your grandma. It is true that people will no doubt get crushed by the wave of the future. So, get your surf boards out and ride it!
8:07pm • #15
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Laurie - it's all about anticipating rather than reacting. As I look back, I sense my age -

Why do we need a fax machine in the office?

What do you mean, e-mail?

A website? What's that?

and now it's

Why are you wasting your time blogging? 

Time never stands still. If we do - it passes us by. 

8:26pm • #16
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I remember the brand  well. And Falstaff. Pabst. Schlitz. And more. Could not help but notice Tippi Hedren's photo in the Ms. Rheingold contest.

You are so right about the elimination of needless middlemen for us to get to our customers. Was a great glee for us when we finally fired realtor.com. We fired the local RE magazine some years before.

cheers 

9:55pm • #17
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I am amazed by the constant resistance to change that most people have, including NAR.  The consumer centric philosophy has been around for many years.  However, it seems that the industry tries to stop all change!  I have witnessed this with the advent of buyer brokerage as well as offering consumer centric services to the public. 
10:35pm • #18
Nicely done my friend!  It's about time we discover that Blogging is for the birds!!  LOL!~  (Eagles that is...) :-)
10:38pm • #19
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Laurie- I used to hate change...any kind of change.  But after going to the Peace Corps in 97, well every day was a change, and every day I had to adapt in order to not only survive, but thrive.  So, when I started in  Real Estate......I no longer hated change, in fact embraced it.  Whatever is new, hey I want to know about it :) 
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Brian & Mitchell,

My mind went to the middle man between us and the consumer.  Of course we are the middle man between the buyer and seller. 

I am no expert but the flaw in the Rheingold marketing plan, IMHO, was their failure to recognize different perceptions in different markets.  Hellmans mayonnaise did and still does flourish on the east coast.  When they introduced it to the west coast it flopped-big time.  When the name was changed on the west coast to Best Foods Mayo (same product, same label, different name) it blew off of the shelves.  The large German immigrant population on the east coast found it to be a trusted name, it became a household product; that familiarity/trust didn't exist, at that time, on the west coast.  

Failure to communicate.  

 

11:10pm • #21
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Failure to communicate.

Brilliant insight and a poignant lesson for any marketer. 

11:13pm • #22
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Emily,  You were indeed fortunate to have been in college when the internet started going.  Many of us went to the hit or miss school of learning how to figure it all out  I threw my hands up and enrolled in classes to learn how to operate a computer.  While I never became very adept at figuring out software, I love the internet and continuing finding new ways to make it work for me.  

Ann,  Thank you.  The second article is better than the first.  The first is great background.  Hope you enjoy, it is a very interesting read.

Brian,  Aaaaaa you just like to play the devil's advocate...

Christy, Thank you.  It's a great ride... 

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Sharon, You are so right, it is about anticipating.  Loved your examples.  I remember working for a company that sold teletype equipment.  One day I was flipping through a trade magazine and saw an ad for a hot new upcoming product called a facsimile machine (fax).  I read what it would do - amazing - transfer information from paper to paper without a ticker-tape.  I took the magazine to the company owners office, showed him the ad and told him "Meet your demise".  I then asked him if we were making any plans to expand the company into handling any other products.  He looked at me and said "No, teletype equipment will still be needed in third world countries, we'll be fine".  I knew even then that he was wrong.  The price point alone combined with the ease of use eliminated the need or desire to ever use a teletype machine again.  He was out of business in under 2 years.  Time passed him by.  
11:22pm • #24
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Gary,   I remember all of those brands as well.  If they had changed their names and updated the packaging and marketing plan they would likely still be in business.  Times change, products need to also.  Even Campbell's soups recently updated their packaging after how many decades of sameness?  There is now much more competition with much better product, in order to survive change is inevitable.  

I too felt the rush of unadulterated glee when I disposed of the services of R.com in November of 2006.  I have been paper marketing free now for about a year and a half.  Expenses are WAY down and I am much happier with the way my business runs and have much more control over it.  A slight change and I am marketing a different end of the market.  I just love control!  

11:31pm • #25
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Joan,  The resistance to change has always amazed me as well.  Now I just shake my head and try to remind myself that I can't save the whole world, no matter how much I would like to.  They aren't trying to stop it, they are trying to cash in on it.  They want us complacent.  Let them do the work and sell it to us.  Problem with that is that we still do all the work.  Everybody wants to put their hands into our pockets.  It's no wonder - they have been getting away with it for years, they feel entitled now.  It must hurt to be them now; now that we are taking back what is rightfully ours.  

Brad,  Thank you :).  I like that song too..... FLY LIKE AN EAGLE..................la la la.............. 

 

11:39pm • #26
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Kathy, You snuck in there while I was returning comments.  Knowledge is good, implementing it is better.  Glad you grew.  
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this was very cool to read
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One thing I know is that change is constant.  One thing I hate is "change" but I deal with it quite gracefully, I hope.
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I think the only thing that never changes in our industry, is that WE have to keep growing with the times, the technologies, and the ever changeing market.  And that is one of the things I love about the Real Estate industry......it certainly is nevert boring!

5:36am • #32
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Eloquently written and so spot on.  Sometimes I feel truly alone at my office and then come home to AR where we speak the same language...well, at least we try:)  Your passion is clearly one of the reasons you have been so successful in this new and changing world of Web 2.0
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Change happens so fast these days, I'm glad to have AR to help me keep up with the new things.
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A few years ago we had a real estate company that at their high had 400 salespeople and a 30% market share. Now they are gone and I feel they did not want to change with the times and it caused them to deteriorate to the point they could not compete. Change or did is very appropriate in our business or any business. Thanks for your post.
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As a Broolynite, I appreciate the story!
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Great post.  Great comments.  I remember Rheingold beer well.  My father had a deli and I voted often.  Even sang the song.  Saw it on buses and subways.  Can anyone tell me why it's gone?  P.S. I'm not a beer drinker.
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GREAT message, Laurie! And I LOVE the pic's....brings back memories....
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 Great Post and great feedback.

I really appreciate the broker from Tahoe mentioning firing Realtor.com and the Homes book. Needless.

Our industry is fighting off the middlemans middlemen every day. We are nessecary as Realtors, the rest of the businesses that engage our clients for us, not so sure. If we as Brokers or better yet our brands did a better job of being relevant to buyers and sellers our lives would be a lot easier.

I have seen this (rarely) implemented in our business and it works wonders. Someone mentioned feeling lonely, no doubt. Very few people in the business "get it", just think what could happen on the consumer front if these individual found a way to work together! That would be powerful.

 

 

9:38am • #39
There is a line in the song that says, "Time keeps on slippin slippin, into the future!"  How profound is that? :-)
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There are several things I love about Laurie Manny posts, one of them is that they bring out the 'Big Brains.' 
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HA! Just checked Google.  This article is #3 in Google for RHEINGOLD BREWING and for RHEINGOLD BREWING COMPANY; #4 for RHEINGOLD BREWING CO. That tickles me, since it is not a real estate search term.   

 

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Great story, having grown up in Brooklyn, I really apprecaited it, I even remember the Rhiengold song.

Time marches on, we need to be adaptable, you sure seem to be.

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This is a very interesting, thought provoking post. Sort of gives you the angle from a different turn. Nice Post!
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Laurie, I agree with you about building a reputation.  When Macy's bought out Marshall Fields in Chicago, there was much picketing by consumers because Macy's wanted to change Marshall Fields name.  But you know, Chicago folk are stubborn when they wanna be, and they are also very dedicated to what they know.  They picketed to keep the Marshall Fields name.  They didn't win, but it was a big to do.  And a good marketing lesson.

As far as change is concerned, I am again in agreement.  Though I try to be tolerant with those that seem to have problems changing, it is hard.  I was raised a creature of change 25 plus relocations will do that to you.  And it is not just real estate agents and mortgage brokers that need to change it is the vendors that sell to them.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Laurie- Thanks for your article with the usual food for thought and for mentioning Monika's article. Together, they deliver a strong message. 

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Laurie- Love this post.. I think we will see even more changes in our business  as the market continues to evolve..

I wrote this on Moni's post:

Over the next few years we will see many agents who came in within the last 5 years leave the business.  Experienced agents who understand how the internet works will be the ones who survive.  What will be interesting in the next turn around is that I don't think it will be as easy for people to jump in and make money.  The nature of our business is changing so quickly that you won't be able to just throw your picture in the paper  and pick up business as many did in the past.  

I believe this will be one of the most fundamental changes in our business.. When the real estate market gets hot we always get a rush of new people ready to make their fortunes.. most don't but they do leave behind a lot of turmoil that the "professional" agent then has to clean up.  I don't think it will be as easy to jump into real estate in the future. 

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Diane,  I think we adjust and get used to change then it just flows easier. 

Debra, I think you are right and no, it never gets boring thats for sure.

Diane, Thank you.  It's strange how we have become so in sync in this cyber world and how difficult it has made it to relate in our geographic worlds.  

Keith & Robin, Me too.  

Terry,  We've had a few large closures here too.  Maybe if they had experimented with change the outcome might have been different.

Cree, Cool name, glad you enjoyed.

Kenneth, Hey home boy, read the story, it tells you why its gone - a series of bad business decisions...

Kat, It sure does...

Buddy, Many of us have happily departed from the fleeced ranks of r.com, never looking back.  Providing relevant information to consumers is what this is all about and it feels great.  Lonely?  Hey, if more agents in our markets become internet savvy the competition for consumer eyes would become ferocious.  Maybe we are the chosen?  lol...

Brad, slippin, slippin, How?  Quite!

Jason, Braniac land here?  lol, too funny!

Michael, I grew up in Queens.   One of my Uncles who used to work at Rheingold remodeled his basement into a tavern. He built a stage for his 2 sons and their band.  Lined the walls with small tables for 2 with red and white check tablecloths, tossed sawdust on the floors, added the right low lighting and built an incredible bar with Rheingold paraphernalia all over the place.  The basement was a fairly good size.  They always knew where their sons and all of the friends were.  It was very cool...a New York thing ya know?

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Team Muria, Yes, a different view of a sound marketing plan that worked, they generally do.  Such a shame that it didn't continue, but then, nothing is forever...  Thank you. 

Rebecca, Interesting that they picketed to keep a name and not the quality.  Wow, after that many relo's you really must be change tolerant. 

Eloise, Thank you, Moni's article was fabulous.

Kaye, I agree, big changes coming.  I have no problem visualizing a market filled with really good Realtors.  The transactions will be sooooooooo much easier.  I think you are right, it won't be as easy for new agents to jump into the business when it turns around.  I suspect the industry will attract a different breed of new agents.   Likely with marketing and economics degrees.  It will be interesting to watch what they do with the business.........of course you and I will be lying on the beach with our wireless laptops, sipping Mohito's and enjoying our retirement, lol...

 

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Laurie, what a beautiful commentary.  Change IS the only constant.  Sometimes it's scary to think what our lives will be like just a few years from now.  Web2.0 and technology overall is changing our world at an amazing rate.  Let's not forget the human touch.  That stays the same.  :-)

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I loved your images from Reingold....its so Burma Shave and life magazine memory time

 

I just started to read a great so far ebook   www.jackrabbitfactor.com

 

it too is about change...kind of like who moved my cheese too.

 

Lynne Pope

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I just made that up...why not? its true! I'm inspired and going to Inman

 

 

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Laurie - anticipating and going along with change is paramount. I am in the process of re-inventing myself only to have people say - but you put so much work into that - my response is if it is not working, then time to move on. There is so much opportunity to learn and keep in contact with prospects online now - it is amazing!

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I,too remember rheingold beer ,in fact made a tv commercial in 1964 [?],,,its theme was''we must be doing something right'' ,with differant ethnic groups,[i was polish],,,,if any one remembers this ,please let me know,,,,,,,i'm trying to get a copy of it,,,and don't know who to contact,,,,,,

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