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"Your Inspector Is Wrong. I Was In The House And Saw No Termites."

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Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

All along the only two exterior rim joists we could see in an unfinished basement room I saw termite tunnels.  Many of them.  The lot is dark and wooded and the basement is completely subterranean.

When my client's Realtor called the other agent, just to give a head's up, she said, "Your inspector is wrong.  I was in the house and saw no termites."

All I could do was smile.

That is a PERFECTLY irrelevant statement.

Did she see the poison ivy in the yard?  She was in the yard.

Or the 1000 pound limb broken off and ready to fall onto the roof?  She was in the yard.

How about the missing shingles near the chimney and the wet roof sheathing inside the attic right underneath?  She was in the yard.

And because she was there and did not see it that means it does not exist?  And/or the home inspector must be wrong?

Does she hear the tree falling in the woods when nobody is present?

I realize I am not the termite inspector.  And I have NO juice as regards termites.  I realize that I could see a 40 pound termite and it would mean nothing.  I am not the termite inspector! 

But I did see many tunnels!  We all did!  Are they active?  I don't know.  I am reporting that I saw termite tunnels.  And they can go from there!  I am simply employing my Best Practices.  I don't invent stuff!

But to say I am wrong is a bit silly.  There have been many times I have found active termites in houses recently proclaimed "termite free" by termite inspectors.  Here is one of them.  And I wasn't wrong...

My recommendation:  facts are facts.  It is not smart to confuse issues with irrelevant statements.  The house is the house and when a home inspector sees something, reports it and has photos to back it up, it's best to go with the flow.  And deal with it from that point on.

 

 

 

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Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments(62)

Margaret Rome Baltimore 410-530-2400
HomeRome Realty 410-530-2400 - Pikesville, MD
Sell Your Home With Margaret Rome
Guess you should have said "appears" to be tubes. :) There are only two kinds of homes in my area. Those that have been treated for termites and those that will need to be treated.
Nov 22, 2013 01:18 AM
Graziella Bruner
NCS Premier Real Estate - Detroit, MI
Associate Broker - Serving Wayne & Oakland County

Ok, so since when does our opinion matter or better yet the assumption of something that is or is not.  We leave it to the professionals.  Facts are Facts, there's no arguing that!  Now, step two: back to the negoitating table!!

Nov 22, 2013 02:21 AM
Edward Beck
William Lawrence Agency - Boonton, NJ
Helping Buyers and Sellers Turn the Page.

Apparently there is no longer any such thing as 'active' or 'inactive' termite evidence.  Any evidence at all is evidence of termites, past or present.  You can't see them.  Doesn't mean they aren't there.  You have to treat because guess what...if you're inspector is so wrong, then kill the deal, and then when you get your next offer, tell them their inspector is wrong too.  And the next, and the next, and the next.  If he is just sweeping it under the rug to get his commission faster, he's in for a big surprise when it never sells for the same reason.  

Nov 22, 2013 04:20 AM
Jeffery Griffin
Jeff Griffin LLC - Wailuku, HI
Broker Owner

Yet is the other Realtor a pest inspector? Is the other Realtor holding a side job as a professional termite inspector? Aloha Jeff

Nov 22, 2013 05:03 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Right Steven.  I am not there for termites, but note them when found.  I leave the rest up to the other guys!

Kat - well, what an image!  No wonder!

Suzie - sometimes even the photos are disputed!  It is what it is.  The house is the house.

Charita - I was a little suprised too.  Again, the house is the house.

Evelyn - she is not.  Hence the sarcastic tone in my post!

Nov 22, 2013 06:40 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Suzanne - with all the classes I have taken, I am probably qualified, but I'm not the termite company.  Here inspectors don't do the termite inspection as that has to be done within 30 days of settlement.  There may be certified termite home inspectors, but I don't know any.

Lehel - it's best to go with the flow and let the other professionals handle things like that.

Frank - the termite inspector likely will find everything I did, and maybe more! 

Right Gerard.  I never make things up.  The house is the house.  And this house has been vacant for 1.5 years and is being sold by "the estate."

Margaret - I am a little surprised by that comment.  This house is on a wooded lot and very shaded by older trees!

Nov 22, 2013 06:44 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Well said Graziella.  The house is the house, is my favorite phrase.

That's true around here Edward.  If I was buying that house I would want it treated.  We just don't know.

Jeffrey - unknown, but probably not!

Nov 22, 2013 06:46 AM
Bob Marsh
Warm Weather Real Estate - Mesa, AZ
480-529-2936, Warm Weather Real Estate

Have you seen the Realtor with the white cane around there anywhere?

Nov 22, 2013 07:22 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Bob - were there sunglasses and a cup involved?

Nov 22, 2013 07:29 AM
Paul A. Perry
Certified Inspections, PC - Residential & Commercial Property Inspections - Crossville, TN
Home Inspector - Crossville & Cookeville, TN

The information, or words of the home inspector are often miss-communicated as the word goes outward from the starting point.  As I am sure you have had this experience on multiple occasions, what you say to a real estate agent or to your client is sometimes very different when you hear it repeated back to you from a plumber or hvac repair man.  Just picture the agent you spoke to saying to the listing agent; "The home inspector said the home was eat-up with termites." and the story goes from there.

Happy Inspecting 

Nov 22, 2013 08:14 AM
Juan Jimenez
A House on a Rock Home Inspections LLC - Richmond, VA
The Richmond Home Inspector

Yep. Looks like termite tubes.  Did the agent fill out the NPMA-33 when she said there were no termites? :)

Nov 22, 2013 08:15 AM
Fred Hernden, CMI
Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area - Albuquerque, NM
Albuquerque area Master Inspector

I dunno... a 40lb termite is pretty good evidence! I have seen termite inspectors walk around talking on their cell phone while they were "inspecting"... but that's a different story. Identifying past or present activity due to signs or damage should be enough for them to have it evaluated further. Or so one thinks!

Nov 22, 2013 10:22 AM
Eric Middleton
Closer Look Property Inspections Inc. - Uniondale, NY
Professional Property Inspector


Jay - the termite tubes are a dead give away. Even though the mud tubes may be inactive, we still treat it as an infestation.

Nov 22, 2013 11:11 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

That's true Perry.  And interestingly my report hadn't gone out yet!  I simply say we saw evidence of termites on the report, and they go from there.

Don't know Juan!  Doubt it though!  These were only a couple of the couple of dozen tubes I saw there.

Fred - this house is an estate sale and has been vacant for a year and a half.  It will be evaluated further necessarily, but even more now as we found what we found.  I expect they will have dueling termite inspector opinions!

Eric - I don't think there's much choice there.  Who know what's going on.  And this is a wooded, dark lot, with large, established trees all over.

Nov 22, 2013 06:10 PM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Jay, no it was a commercial property in Woodbridge.

Nov 23, 2013 08:11 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Since you mentioned stalactites, I was joking about it being near Luray...  my dry humor coming through.

Nov 23, 2013 10:14 AM
Charles Stallions Real Estate Services
Charles Stallions Real Estate Services Inc - Gulf Breeze, FL
Buyers Agent 800-309-3414 Pace and Gulf Breeze,Fl.

Good evening Jay, stopped by to read your post and hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving. 

Nov 28, 2013 11:58 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Thanks Joyce.  You may stop by anytime!  I hope you had a great holiday.

Nov 28, 2013 07:29 PM
Rafi Footerman
Mid Jersey Inspections - Edison, NJ
Home Inspector, Mold Inspector, Radon and More!

Maybe their son was making mud sculptures and put them on the top of the foundation to dry ;)

Dec 05, 2013 10:12 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Certainly possible Rafi!  In this case the son would have had to be in his 60s...

;>)

Dec 05, 2013 10:15 PM