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Blogeoisie - social classes in blogging

"blogeoisie (pronounced bloj-wah-zee)"

How does your other (non ACTIVE RAIN) blog rank? Technorati sees the value of your blog because of the links to your blog. These don't really work with Active Rain. These are more for other blogs.

How much is your blog worth? $$ based on Technorati links

Blog Juice Calculator Based on Technorati, Bloglines, Alexa.....

Are You an A-List Bloglebrity? Gives you an A, B, C, or D rating, based on Technorati.

Is there a feudal system in blogging? Serfs and lords? Are you Blogging Aristocracy? Blogging Bourgeoisie? or Blogging Proletariat? You'd know if you were aristocracy wouldn't you... the crown, people bowing and curtsying in your presence would be a sure give away that you are aristocracy. I always had trouble remember what bourgeoisie and proletariat are...proletariat is the laboring class, the bourgeoisie is the middle class in most societies.... Feudal was agrarian society... the industrial revolution gave us the terms like proletariat and bourgeoisie.

Was Tino Buntic's 2000 Bloggers a way for the serfs or proletariat to revolt? A way to raise our lot in life to become bourgeioisie? Or better? You too can be a blogging queen if enough people link to you?

In The Rise Of The Blogeoisie Sellsius° Blog quotes Bill Thompson in Blog eats blog, The rise of the blogeoisie. (2003) about blogs...

These people are not quite an aristocracy. Perhaps they are simply the blogeoisie (pronounced bloj-wah-zee), a dominant class in network society. Or it may be simpler to think of blogs as a feudal system, with respect and links acting as the chief currency. The peasants toil in the low-rank blogs, paying their tithe in LazyWeb projects to the lords of the link in return for an occasional mention from Hammersley or Searls.

I have to tell you, I don't know the Hammersley's or Searls... I don't even know Bill Thompson.... Thanks Sellsius° Blog guys... I do know Tino Buntic.... I put my photo in the gallery... the rogues gallery it seems. The jigs up. The revolution is over. Technorati is not going to stand for this....

Technorati " We're listening to these concerns. In the same manner in which we decline to index blogs that don't meet our quality criteria (AKA "splogs"), we're loath to indulge these "chain posts" ("pain chosts", ouch). Your voice is the most important one in the blogosphere's distributed conversation. To dissuade chain posts from submerging your voice in their dilutative effects, we've updated our indexing systems on an experimental basis to filter out links of this nature. We all love photo collages of faces; we've had them, albeit on a smaller scale, on the Technorati site since last summer. However, "join us and use these links" memes such as 2000 Bloggers is really a disservice to rank measurement systems and thus this decision to change our indexing policies in that regard."

Darn. I put the 2000 Bloggers link to my new blog, ColumbusBestBlog.com ....While my original blog Discover Columbus blog is plodding along ... on the "Are you an A list Blogger" (based on Technorati) Discover Columbus is still a C List Blogger ... my newer blog achieved B List status in under two months because I did the 2000 Bloggers link... link farm....

B list Your Results:
With 120 links in the last 180 days, Technorati places http://columbusbestblog.com in the high authority group.

That makes you a B-List Blogger!

In November when I found "Are you an A List Bloglebrity?" the real estate blogs which were B list bloggers were Sellsius° Blog, Grow-a-Brain, The Future of Real Estate Marketing and Rain City Guide. Those were the real estate blogs with authority. I could not find A List Bloggers in the real estate relm. My 5 or 6 week old ColumbusBestBlog.com is certainly not in the league with those blogs... I do not deserve B-list blogger status.

Some Active Rain Blogs about the 2000 Bloggers Project:

Join the 2000 Faces by Kristal Kraft

Travel Around the World In Blogs Without Leaving Your Chair by Debi Braulik

Parlez-Vous Francais by moi (French for me?)

Bloggers Project 2000 - Links by Steve Dalton

If you put your picture in the 2000 Bloggers collage look up the value / rank/ juice of your blog now before Technorati filters out these links. Put it in your blogging scapbook.... Was it too good to be true? Do we have to write good content and wait and hope to get links from other more powerful blogs to become blogeiosie or a king or queen of blogging?

To borrow a phrase from the St. Paul Queen of blogging "You Betcha."

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Posted by Maureen McCabe Central OH Homes on 02/07/2007 11:45 PM

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45 Comments on Blogeoisie - social classes in blogging

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I'm on the D list. Me and Kathy Griffin...

Kathy Griffin the comedien? This is more for other blogs. Technorati doesn't really work with Active Raini. You can claim your blog on Technorati.

I am D list if I do Active Rain too Don.... http://activerain.com/blogs/columbusoh I wonder what the 2000 Bloggers thing did to those who did their Active Rain blog in the 2000 blog... if it gave them Technorati links???

Yes, Kathy Griffin the comedian. She has a "reality" show called "My Life on the D List," which pokes fun at herself and at how she is so not an A List celebrity.

I figured the Active Rain blogs wouln't be rated highly, as they're part of a network, but it was fun to take a look. The other link did tell me my blog was worth $564. Maybe I should sell it?

Thank goodness you keep me up on what's on TV that I don't know about... South Park and now Kathy Griffin. I am not sure why we had a conversation or two about South Park...

gee I checked my Active Rain blog and it is worth some money now.... less than $2,000. The two month old (6 week old.... 5 week old ColumbusBestBlog was worth $66K the other day when Maureen Francis mentioned on Steve Dalton's blog that her real blog is worth over $100K now... my RT blog is worth something like +/_ $26K... but it is old... It has had a lot of work... it is still just a C-lebrity.....

I could be wrong but I thnk it is somethinig about the way the Active Rain URLs are set up (because it is a network??) that makes them not work with Technorati?? I tried to see my blog juice for AR and it did not recognize after the .com ??? MyBlogLog.com doesn't recognize Active Rain because we can't use javascript... but I think none of that really matters if consumers are reading Active Rain and Localism.

Sellsius had a blog yesterday about Tino Buntic taking down the pictures from his blog. They are somewhere... you can still see it there is a map... I had missed that the 2000 bloggers are not on his blog.

Yeah, I think the bottom line is that none of it matters if the consumers are finding AR and Localism. My articles are showing up in Google searches and that is 99% of what matters to me. D List be damned! :)

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Is there a below D list??? Maybe D minus... Oh well, celebrity I'm not but I've gotten lots of attention with my clients!!! Excellent post Maureen, definate A list!!

A-list post, M! I smiled reading it.

When will the new word you have coined make it to Websters???

Elena: You are in the photo .... I always noticed you. Active Rain is different, it defies the labels.

Chris: I think D list is it..rock bottom. Are you in the 2000 Bloggers photo? It's funny but I see so many people I know there.

Steve: Hardly A list but thanks.

Kaushik: Oh... that word's been around since 2003 at least... It's Bill Thompson's word... Sellsius (a real B list blog) used the word...

D list for me. With the launch of our blogsite this week I aim to understand these various rating systems, and do what's needed to enhance the site. Easy to say - tough to do!

However - Active Rain shows up as an A List Blogger. OK - I'm confused! Which is the key rating here? AR or the sub-blogs?

Tony: Your blog is RSS pieces isn't it? Mary's got lots of this stuff built into your blog. Claim your blog on Technorati and most of these little doo hickeys that rate a blog are based on the inbound links that Technorati credits you with.

Active Rain Network better be an A list blog! I don't think anyone's sub blog on Active Rain will rank higher than a D but I could be wrong... try Broker Bryant's, Sharon S's or Kristal Krafts blogs since they have huge AR blogs.

Your Results:

With 1123 links in the last 180 days, Technorati places http://www.kineda.com/bloglebrity.php?url=http://activerain.com in the very high authority group.

That makes you a A-List Blogger!

no I checked the bloggers with the most blogging points on Active Rain...D - list... that's OK. there are perks like consumers calling, emailing saying "I found you on the internet."

Maureen, very interesting post. I guess I may never be taken seriously as a blogger. I've no idea what most of that techonrati stuff means. I discovered AR by accident and have been active a few weeks only. I'm bookmarking this one so I can educate myself. Thanks!

Maggie: If you aren't blogging elsewhere you really don't have to worry much about Technorati etc. Technorati just measures incoming links on a blog. I don't think consumers are looking for real estate agents or even real estate bloggers on Technorati. They do find them on Active Rain...

Technorati is a good place to see what an A Blog looks like vs. a B Blog but in the Sellsius Blog entry The Rise Of The Blogeoisie , in the comments they have a link to a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong NY Times article about blogging and this feudal system of links.

How Google deals with the links from the 2000 Bloggers thing will be interesting and affect real estate bloggers more than Technorati IMHO.

Another Sellsius entry about the 2000 Bloggers, In defense of 2000 Bloggers and Tino Buntic

Thanks for the update. I'm glad I don't need to worry about it for the time being =) I'm only writing here right now. You're full of good stuff!

"Your blog, KnoxvilleTennesseeRealEstateBlog.com, is worth $3,951.78"

Great! When does my check come in?? ;-)

"Your blog, KnoxvilleTennesseeRealEstateBlog.com, is worth $28,227.00"

Such widely varying results might cause you to be a little skeptical of the value of this valuation service

I'm still willing to take the $2,951.78. ;-)

"With 50 links in the last 180 days, Technorati places http://www.kineda.com/bloglebrity.php?url=http://www.KnoxvilleTennesseeRealEstateBlog.com in the middle authority group.

That makes you a C-List Blogger!

Show Off Your Status with an C-List Badge:"

Pardon me if I don't run out and get my "C- list" badge right away. ;-)

My blog is now worth just under $118,000. Never trust and AVM. I want more. :->

Mine has bounced from $50,000 to over $100,000 and now back to $50,000 in value. It appears Technorati is already adjusting for the 2000 Bloggers links.

As with any disruptive advance, the rules and algorithms will be adjusted. What did we learn though? We all want to search higher and we all want more regular readers. How do we apply this little experiment?

Update: 2000 Bloggers now has it's own blog site. I guess the original author pulled down the photos and they are still collecting names, with 300 left.

Don't even wanna know my score :P

The true value of a blog or a website would be the income derived from it. In my real estate searches I have only ever come across one blog and that one went away rather quickly. What kind of searches do people have to do to find a blog?

Jim Lee: were the first two done close together? Same time? A blog should grow in value over time but I know that the gizmo is sometimes squirelly... I like it so much better than when I first noticed it... and kept going back and saying my blog had $0 value.

MF: MF, MF, MF.....

Steve: Technorati has not adjusting mine down yet... because there is no way my ColumbusBestBlog.com is in the same league as Rain City Guide, Grow-a-Brain, YoChicago, Sellsius° Blog. I don't know if I thought of the 2000 faces as a way of linking... I thought we were all trying to fit in a phone booth kind of thing... I don't know that I thought my face was going to attract readers... and my blog is really supposed to be local...after I submitted my face and a link to my blog obviously and Maureen Francis mentioned the hits she was getting from it I started worrying that it was going to get slammed as a link farm. Why is it on a separate blog? So it would not hurt Tino's blog?

Toby: Aren't you writing for a big blog though? That one has got to have lots of value....

Greg: Are you talking about ad income or real estate income from a blog? There is no way for outsiders to measure real estate income derived from blogging... not that they don't still try. The blog value things have to do with links and ad income and are really there to sell bloggers on putting ads on their blogs or at least:

How much is your blog worth?

Blog Juice Calculator

Are. This one isn't... it is just popularity in a People Magazine kind of way...

Are You an A-List Bloglebrity?

Google Blogs search is used to find blogs, it is a beta but even if you use the main Google search and Google words Location Real Estate, a lot of the websites that come up are blogs.

There's mixed advice re: doing ads on real estate websites. Some of the gurus say you oughta, some say don't.

As I've said several times, you are so-o-o over my head on this! I don't care what the blogging geeks think of my site, I'm just doing it for business and having fun in the process. So if I get business as a result, I'll be happy. When I checked my blog a month or so ago, Technorati just laughed at me ... so I must have been below even a D! ;-)

Elaine you can look at it that way.. but the more visible your site is on the internet (via Google and other search engines) the better chance that someone is going to find you to do business with... that is why Dustin Luther said and I may be paraphrasing here..."don't blog in a bubble." You can blog yourself silly locally but other than emailing your blog to SOI, clients etc. how are they going to get involved with your blog? Are they going to feel spammed by it? If you have a sphere who is doing RSS and will add your blog to their reader you are ahead of the game.

Mary McKnight's advice too.. is you need incoming links.. good links. Links with authority She is opposed now to blogrolls, is concerned that Google is going to start penalizing for them. She commented re: the 2000 Bloggers on Sellsius.

Technorati said something like "huh?" when I tried to look at who the three whole links to my AR blog are.. It shows me having three incoming links... I have to suspect they are from Discover Columbus, ColumbusBestBlog.com and ??? that's the mystery. It is claimed. Technorati shows me that there are the three links but then says something smart when I try to see it. Luckily

Did you get my email that I mentioned your blog in the body of an entry on CBB? About the 2000 Faces. It will be interesting to see if you can see incoming links since you said you could see that I had linked to you from Discover Columbus on Submit Express...

I'm not interested in going to school again and being graded. Who cares really what the rating is. The point is to get it out there with the emphasis being placed on getting (graded by the search engines only)!

Patricia Aulson/SEACOAST REALTOR, NH/ME & MA

Can someone tell a newbie where to find their rating? LP

wow i guess i should be happy i have a grade?

Lewis: Is that on another blog Lewis or is that your Active Rain blog? Welcome Active Rain. It says: "How does your blog rank? Technorati sees the value of your blog because of the links to your blog. These don't really work with Active Rain. These are more for other blogs."

I believe all Active Rain blogs (the sub bloggers) are D - list bloggers. Technorati and Active Rain are not compatible. If you go to the best bloggers on Active Rain it is going to be D-list with that gizmo. Active Rain the network is A list.... I think Tony Marriott looked that up. The sub domains on a network like Active Rain don't get read??? Doesn't have anything to do with the value of the blog. I was surprised we can even claim our Active Rain Blogs on Technorati. To me it is way more work than it is worth to even do that. I have mine claimed but it only recognizes three links and then says "Huh?" when I try to see what the links are, I am sure two of the links are me from my other blogs.

Many of us were blogging before Active Rain. Some have started blogs since. A number of us sent in pictures to Tino Buntics project.

LOL...I"m on the D-List and my blog is worth a big fat ZERO....

Oh well, I didn't expect to be a blog celebrity....as long as it's working for me....that's all that matters!

Kaushik,

I was thinking the exact same thing... :)

Awesome info Maureen. So much to learn so little time!

I'm on the D-list and my blog is a very small $1,600. Guess that's better than nothing!!!! I have so much to learn. LOL!!!! I've spent all night on your post. What a great article!

I checked Technorati again and it gave me a "Huh?". I haven't claimed my blog there yet. The Submit Express links have jumped by 500 since yesterday for Reese's blog, thanks to you. My web site increased by over 40 as well. The Google Reader picked up a bunch from Tino's 2000 bloggers. I'm also showing links from Maureen F and Craig S.

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Linda: Dustin Luther was on RealTown's BlogTalk about a year ago when it first started and a bunch of us were trying to figure out blogging. He told us about the feudal system that blogging is, not in those words but it always stuck with me.

Kay: The D-List is the place to be... all of us serfs are there. I don't know why I prefer saying serfs to proletariat... all of our Active Rain Blogs are there, some would say because they are inferior but it has to do with the way the URL is set up I believe. Active Rain as a whole is an A - list blog, has lots of authority in the words of Technorati... I don't believe it is claimed on Technorati but the number of links make it A list.

Elaine: What Technorati says to me about my Active Rain Blog:

"Huh?
There are blogs, and then there's whatever you just typed in. If it's a blog, we don't know about it. Maybe you made a typo. Or maybe it's a blog that doesn't exist. Maybe you don't exist. (In which case, please ignore this.)"

smart alec. It has the blog on the list of my blogs...says it has three links. I did not type it in just clicked on it.

Put ads on your blog or website and you may as well be a bus stop bench. It's hard enough to prove our value to consumers but oh so easy to lose any perception of value. We expect consumers to trust us with helping them spend tens or hundreds of thousand of dollars through which we will earn thousands of dollars and they are greeted with .25 ads when they find us.

I can't think of big real estate blogs with ads... Sellsius ° Blog has ads... but they are writing to real estate people about real estate...

Two blogging gurus's and their take on monetizing RE blogs.

Mary McKnight

Bill French

Mary was very popular on Active Rain (not that there is a popularity contest on AR) but only got one comment on this one.... maybe there was some other reason that this entry did not inspire comments. Bill got more comments with his views including as I recall comments from Active Rainers with other blogs which do have ads.

I'm blogging riffraff, apparently on the wrong side of the tracks. So what's a pauper to do? Unabashedly give myself an incoming link - Seattle condos.

Ben you shameless social climber (and I mean that in the nicest way....) Did you do the 2000 bloggers? You too could be nouveau riche blog blogeoisie like some of us..... until that filter kicks in.

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Ben

Get links any way you can. The one above is good. Next time use it as part of a sentence. The big g likes sentences with keywords in them. And when you make a link use the title to get descriptive.

I know where to find the greatest selection of Seattle condos for sale around.

Hold your cursor over the link.

I hope this helps.

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Quite an interesting post Maureen on the so-called blog hierarchy. The 2000 blogger project focused attention on the technorati ranking system which is basically a link counter. I agree with most commenters that it really should not matter and we should not be preoccupied with counting links & status. The one commenter who said the true measure of success is how much business you derive from it is half right. Yes, many are in blogging to get a lead and a client (& success is getting them) but a surprisingly large amount of bloggers do it for other non-monetary reasons---self-expression, sharing, contact with others, education, yada yada yada. It's all good and we need not measure our blogs against any yardstick but our own. That's why we supported tino & free expression. To heck with ratings. Viva the revolution!

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It is good to support Tino and self expression and I am all for our blogs being vehicles of self expression not just I made $XXXX.00 in 2006 from blogging.

Link counting is bogus if it says ColumbusBestBlog.com has as much authority as other blogs after only 6 or 7 weeks and is worth oooodles more than my Discover Columbus Blog that I have slaved over for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time.

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Are you selling Maureen :). What happens is that those inflated ratings don't last. Technorati links only go back 180 days-- so after that the inflated value disappears. It's only a temporary Technorati high.

technorati links might fade after 180 days, but all those inbound links will still be recognized by Google, which is more important to me than technorati.

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Maureen - thanks for the mention about the ads-on-your-blog post. I re-read that post and now recall how I got behind an entire week that month ;-) - tons of research on blogs with ads, sites with ads and the potential loss of credibility. If you blog to increase credibility, unrelated ads achieve exactly the opposite (in my view).

Greg [Cremia] summed it up nicely -- "and they are greeted with .25 ads when they find us."

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Well... I can officially tell you all that my newbie blog www.destination48009.com is worth nothing. Yes, nothing. So I'm an "F" list blogger. F is for failure! boo-hoo.

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Sara...They don't give F's....

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