Actually, finding the lowest mortgage rate is easy:  Just go ahead and call any of the thousands of unscrupulous mortgage brokers out there- you know, the ones who like to advertise online with rates that are too good to be true.  Some of them- occasionally- will actually provide the rates they promote, but watch out for those closing costs!

The first thing you should know:

Mortgage rates change almost every single day.  Mortgage companies know this, so they choose to advertise the lowest rate they possibly can, but alas, when you call them, that rate "is no longer available."  Ditech.com does this all of the time.  How can they advertise a 5.875% interest rate during production of the commercial, without knowing what rates will be at the time you call?  They call this "market change"; I call it bait and switch.

An ethical company will not advertise their rates when they really have no idea what rates will be once the commercial airs.  It just gives the borrower false hope; they call; a smooth-talking salesperson snares them in and get's a packet out "right away."

Tricks lenders play:

Mortgage rates are only half of the equation.  One must be careful about mortgage company fees.  What good is a 5.75% interest rate if you have $8000 in closing costs and you end up moving in 5 years?  Take that $8000 and divide it by 5 (years) and tack that onto your payment.  That's REALLY what you paid.

Also, mortgage lenders can charge you for anything.  Let's say you have a $100,000 mortgage that you need to refinance.  The lender advertises "no points" and an interest rate of 5.875%.

That's the best deal you've found.

Not so.  This lender promised you "no points" and that was true.  What he or she didn't mention is the $1000 "broker fee", the $895 "processing fee", and the $400 "doc prep fee". 

So the lender was right!  You didn't pay any points!  Instead, you paid over 2 points (or $2000) in "junk fees" because you were so wowed by the "no points" advertisement.

The Honest Lender loses the deal:

Now, of course, you blew off the other lender who told you that there would be a "one point" origination fee on your mortgage loan.  You've listened to your friends!  You've heard the commercials!  Nobody should have to pay points!

Wrong.

The other lender- the one that you didn't want to deal with because of "the points"- was going to charge you 1% of the loan amount and that's it.  That would have saved you $1200, using the example above.

The bottom line when dealing with lenders: Who is offering the lowest rate combined with the lowest fees?  Don't get swept up by all of the lies that mortgage companies tell.  When shopping for loans, always compare apples-to-apples:  Find three lenders and ask all three of them for their best deal on a loan with "ZERO LENDER FEES." 

I don't recommend loans with "zero lender fees" (unless you are going to be in a home for a very short time), but this is the easiest way to compare lenders.  Because, I promise you, no two lenders will have the same fee structure.  That makes determining the best deal very difficult.

One last thing:  Since this is such a enormous financial transaction, please make sure that your lender is a member of the BBB and it wouldn't be a bad idea to contact your State Banking department to find if any complaints have been lodged against them, before you hand over all of your personal paperwork.

 

21 Comments on How to Find the Lowest Mortgage Rate

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2007

Karen-

Great information.  I'll have to keep this handy when I talk to a new lender.

2:05pm • #1
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Those "zero closing cost/zero fees" lenders make at least 2 or 3 points rebate on the back end. But good luck getting them to admit to that.

Great blog Karen!!!!

Eddy  

2:22pm • #2
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Hi Karen, 

Thanks for the article n 'How to find Lowest Mortgage Rates'  Like everything else you have to shop the rate and then the feels.  Three dirfferent lenders is enough and then make your decision. For sure all the added on fees make a different in the bottom line.

 

Regards, Patricia Aulson/SEACOAST NH,ME & MA  REALTOR

 

URL:   WWW.patricia4realestate.com 

2:30pm • #3
Thanks Karen, that was very helpful!  You'd be surprised how often my clients don't want to share the GFA with me, I think these lenders advise them not to.
2:39pm • #4
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I am sick of lenders who try to poach clients with bait and switch tactics.  Our largest bank has even used that tactic.  I am extremely picky about what loan officers I refer clients to.
3:25pm • #5
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Karen, I love the way you write! It's a good subject to, but I like your article because of the style. Keep it up. This is great. You grabbed me in the first paragraph and held on to me from there.

PS - I featured one of your other articles in the Unsung and Overlooked post.

Nice job :)

4:31pm • #6
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KAREN -

Good subject...But I must disagree about zero fee loans - sometimes they make the most sense.

Rick: Agents should not be suprised that Buyers will not share GFE's...
Same as asking originators for the Buyer's personal infomation - outside of approved/declined.
I've participated in numerous transactions where Buyer's indicated "do not tell my Agent about my info".

Many times the information requests violate Graham-Leach Bliley Privacy Act. 

 

5:38pm • #7
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Hi Brian Brass--

You are correct, sometimes loans with "zero fees" are the best- specifically if you are only keeping the property a short period of time.  If I was "flipping" a house, I would- undoubtedly- get a "no fee" loan.  It's all about the "break even" point. 

Since the average home is held for 7 years, I was generalizing based on averages.  However, if you are only going to be in the house a year or less:  "No Fees" is the way to go!

Thanks for the comments everyone!

7:25pm • #8
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Hi Karen,

That was a most informative post--helpful for me and certainly helpful for our buyers.  You did a great job explaining the nuances of the mortgage business.

7:31pm • #9
Yep, the best strategy is to find a reputable lender and STICK with them, that is what I have tried to do in 4 years in the business, it has served me and my clients well!
9:31pm • #10
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It's so frustrating trying to get buyers to understand this stuff.  They are lured into believing  that any fees are junk fees and any closing costs are a ripoff.  We have a guy on the radio that gets people to believe that you're an idiot if you don't go with a no closing cost loan.  People here something long enough and somehow it automatically becomes the "truth".
10:00pm • #11
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Gotta be careful when shopping for a loan/lender out there.  Rate and points are one thing, fees are another thing entirely.  Get everything in writing!
10:34pm • #12
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9 times out of 10 paying the origination fee of 1% pays for itself in about 3-5 years.  Buyers who don't want to pay points often find themselves in a loan that is .25% to .5% higher in rate.  Consider that the extra .25% to .5% is working against them year after year for what in theory could be 30 years.  The math adds up quickly and the 1% origination fee is a bargain.   

4:53am • #13
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That is correct Mr. Rodriguez...  Yet, people still look at me like I'm a crook when I try to convince them that paying a "point" (to buy down the rate) is the best way to do things (if their situation warrants it).

I didn't realize there would be so much interest in this, so I am going to write a "part two" and clarify things a bit.

Thanks again for the feedback.

Karen

10:45am • #14
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Karen, Very well put.  I as a loan originator have always been up front with my clients as to just how I am paid.  In going over the GFE I make sure my clients know what each fee is, and why it's on the GFE.  I also tell the client the how I came up with the interest rate they will have for the next 30 years, or in reality for around seven years as that is how long they usually have the loan, or sell the home and move on.  Honesty up front has always been my position.  As with others in our industry, we charge a fee for our services.  It is important to allow the client in on the how and whys regarding the money they will be paying.

Thanks for sharing this post, will look for more of you on here.  Take care.  Bob

11:27am • #15
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Karen.... this was well written and brings out some good points. But I will have to disagree in regards to comparing zero point rates and fees. Why do I say this?  Once you chose a lender that you feel comfortable with and decide to go with a different program or even that loan program but with a few pts now, it could allow the lender not to give you the same deal that you were getting when comparing all zero point deals. I can say this because not each rate has the same profit margin.  Just because the rates are in increments of 1/8%, doesn't mean that they are spaced with the same costs.  Example :  6% costs 1/2 pt      6.125%  costs 1/8 pt      6.25%  has a YSP of 3/8 pts       6.375% has a YSP  of 5/8 pts       and 6.5% has a ysp of 1 .25 pts    Depending on each coupon and the market of that day, I can sometimes get the same price for a different rate. My whole point is, you should shop for the rate that you want and or are looking for, to also keep lenders honest. 

2nd... several comments have said that they tell their clients to get it in writing. I hate to break the bad news, but it can be easy to get out of almost anything that is written on paper.  I don't care if it's a good faith estimate or even a rate lock agreement. It has been proven that lenders can break these because of ever changing credit scores, not verifying income until later in the process, some excuse because of the appraisal.... and last, just blaming it on the client, for failing to getting their paperwork into the lender on time.

Overall...don't get me wrong, you bring up some good points, but in my opinion, there are some holes in the shopping aspect that need to be mentioned. 

1:17pm • #16
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PS.... Karen... I meant to say, welcome to Active Rain and for the featured post. Congrats..
1:18pm • #17
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any lender who advertises rates and fees do NOT have their clients best interest in mind.

how can ANY honest lender advertise a rate & fee without knowing anything about the client.....

oh, but it works. thousands of folks flock to ditech because they 'buy the lie'

 

hmmmm.... i wonder who pays for the advertising budget at ditech?

5:04pm • #18
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2007
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Karen,

 Well put article, lots of good info.  And, congrats on the feature.  I do have to agree with Jeff that the non-linearity in pricing really makes rate shopping problematic at best when trying to compare rates and points.  The sad reality is that no rae is meaningful if it's not locked.  I have told many people when they call asking for a rate that it is simply unethical to give them one without a lot more info about them.  Most will tell me what their income and outflow of cash looks like, and many will even be pretty close on what kind of credit they have.  With that info I can tell them that "if I understand the information you have given me correctly, and if we were to lock a rate today and be able to close before the lock expired, we would have such and such a rate."

Sound like a lot of qualifying in that statement.  I hope so, otherwise I have mislead the customer.  I want them to know that the only way I can give better than a (hopefully) educated guess is to get them in the office with income documentation so I can pull credit.  While thet are there we can get into the discussion of LTV and the appraisal.

Do this approach lose me deals - occasionally.  But I sleep really well at night, and I receive the occasional referral from a happy customer, and now and again that lost client shows up and wants to know if I can help get him a better deal than what he signed on to.  "Sure, but you have to let the loan you just signed season a bit first."

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By the way, this also goes a long way to why we beat the bank as often as we do.  There no fee deals are predicated on that higher rate to pay the bills.
2:55pm • #20
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Hey Terry-- thanks for the comments. I like the way you think...just like me!  Seriously though- thanks for the thoughtful comments.
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