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And just WHY didn't you get this room addition permitted, again????

By
Real Estate Agent with Rodeo Realty ~ Fine Estates Westlake Village DRE #01744774

Have a current buyer who is trying to get information from the listing agent and the seller regarding how an unpermitted room was constructed. Open space above the dining room was built into a play room upstairs. His fear (and rightfully so) is that the kids will be up there playing, jumping around, and the floor will fall in to the dining room table, injuring both the kids and whoever is sitting having a cup of coffee at the table! So, reasonable requests:

  1. WHY DIDN'T YOU GET IT PERMITTED?
  2. When was the room built?
  3. Who did the work?
  4. Were they licensed contractors?
  5. WHY DIDN'T YOU GET IT PERMITTED?
  6. Is there anything wrong with it that you know of?
  7. Were there plans drawn up?
  8. What kind of materials were used?
  9. WHY DIDN'T YOU GET IT PERMITTED?
  10. How far apart are the joists?
  11. What is holding the floor up to the walls?
  12. Was the flooring nailed or screwed in?
  13. Are you willing to open up the structure from the ceiling below so an inspector can verify it is done to code?
  14. AND AGAIN, WHY IN THE WORLD DIDN'T YOU GET IT PERMITTED, AGAIN??

Honestly, you'd think we're asking for the moon in wanting some basic information about an addition to a $1.3million house. First of all, we live with earthquakes here in Southern California. What if the kids are home with the babysitter, playing up there, we have a little trembler and because it's inferior or not secured enough, WHAM, CRASH, down they go in a rubble, injured and maybe even killed.

So 5 days of selective amnesia go by and we're asking everyday, "Please, just look in your records. Surely you have a cancelled check or something... We just want to know how it was done..". We go to the city building division and pull your file. Interesting.... You duly permitted everything else you ever did to the home, except this one thing! WHY? Well... finally you disclose who the contractor is. You didn't want to get him in trouble, you say. Well, in the meantime, the buyer has asked enough questions at the city on how to get a 7 year old room permitted, they may be putting two and two together and if my buyer doesn't go through with this purchase, don't be surprised to hear a knock on your door and a man with a Building and Safety badge standing there with a clipboard.

So, why don't homeowners get their projects permitted? I can understand if they're just putting in retrofit windows, or replacing something that already existed. But building a loadbearing room over living space? Really, was the few thousand dollars you saved worth the nail biting and problems you've created?? I don't think so...

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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Hi Kathy -- there seems to be more than a few red flags waving on this one....

May 14, 2014 06:14 PM
A. J. Zaki
REMAX Realty Pros - Boca Raton, FL
Home Finder In Florida

                                                                                                                          Thank you for taking the time to post. Keep up the good work! 

May 15, 2014 12:52 AM
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Kathy, sounds like someone is trying to avoid these questions, I would be very wary!

May 15, 2014 12:58 AM
Kristina Heili
Keller Williams Premier Realty - Woodbury, MN
Comprehensive Real Estate Services

Too many of my buyers' home inspections found problems with the do-it-yourselfer. I personally had my basement-finishing project started by a professional contractor who didn't pull a permit. For a variety of reasons we stopped the project. Now 10+ years later we resurrected the project with permits. I explained to our city what was done previously without a permit and was told that the new contractors have to check the existing work and take ownership of it. They, too, warned me that if I didn't pull permits not to be "surprised to hear a knock on your door and a man with a Building and Safety badge standing there with a clipboard." This nice man could potentially ask to have the walls ripped down so that he could check the electrical and/or plumbing! C

May 16, 2014 01:37 AM
Kathy Smiley
Rodeo Realty ~ Fine Estates Westlake Village - Newbury Park, CA
"Real Estate results that make YOU smile!"

Michael, AJ and Joan - yes, red flags are waving all over Westlake Village on this one!

Kristina - I hear ya, sister. In this case, we are going to hire a contractor and an engineer re-create the project for the city. They will have to draw plans for approval. THEN tear the walls apart for the city to come and inspect and make sure the work matches the drawing. If not, there will be modifications, then another inspection, then the walls have to be closed up and everything made nice again. The owner could have avoided all of this by pulling a $1000 permit.

May 16, 2014 02:06 AM