Would you make your buyer pay??

I have been selling real estate for 10 years now.  This question has always come up with other agents and sometimes with myself.  Here is the scenerio...

You are working with a buyer and have a buyer agency contract.  During the time of your contract the buyer finds a "For Sale By Owner" that they just have to have.  Of course, in order for them to make the deal work, they cannot afford your services.  What have you done or what would you do?  Would you hold them to the terms of the contract for the commission that is owed to you or would you just let them walk away?  I have always had the feeling of letting them go.  I never want to force someone to work with me.  I think the bad feelings that would come with holding them to the contract would just make for bad business in the future.  We all know the negative impact that can come from an unhappy client.  That is my feeling, but I am interested in knowing how you all feel...

I look forward to hearing your comments.

 

 
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25 Comments on Would you make your buyer pay??

Monique - Although some of the "killer instinct "realtors would go after this, I personally wouldnt. I never have and never will "force" people to work with me. I always assumed their business a right that I earned, and it had to be in THEIR eyes, not mine.

Keeping a good reputation and myself out of disputes is more important . And I do think it will benefit in the long run - when a client of mine did this exact thing a few years back, I told them they should do what made sense to them. Since that time, they have referred three clients to me. Had I chased them down in court, no such business would have transpired.

I have colleagues who spend most of their time chasing down "What is theirs". I make more money with honey. Best of luck to you.

03/26/2008 08:35 AM by Regina Brassil, ABR (True Real Estate)


You are so right...I feel the same way.  Thanks for commenting!

03/26/2008 08:47 AM by Monique Tenander, Waterfront Specialist (Bean Group, LLC)


Let them go, they may decide to sell that house smeday and need an agent.

03/26/2008 08:51 AM by Virginia Parker-Magnolia Texas Real Estate (Realm Real Estate Professionals-Magnolia)


Monique:

I have always found that when the issue of the commission the buyer agency agreement is addressed up front, that my buyers will opt to NOT look at homes that would end up costing them additional money, or the entire commission.  Most Realtors I know have genuine altruistic tendencies, but it is important for us to realize we are in business.  Situations like the one you are describing can be avoided when the information is presented to the buyer(s) the right way.

03/26/2008 09:39 AM by Chris Ann Cleland, GRI (Long & Foster)


Monique:  I would recommend talking to buyers about this scenario when they are signing the Exclusive Buyer Agency Agreement.  I'd make it clear to them that no matter what they buy, even if it's a FSBO, that they are hiring you and that your fee will be X%.  We usually tell buyers that we are more than happy to work with FSBOs and that we can usually work our fee into the deal with the FSBO by either negotiating a lower purchase price or directly having the seller pay the buyer agency fee.  I would not recommend walking away.  We are offering a service here, but it's not charity.  The time, expertise and other expenditures that you put into an individual client is real money... I would not throw that away.  I have found that a little education at the front end works best.  BTW... it's also helpful to warn them that if the MLS co-broke doesn't cover your fee that they could be responsible for the difference.  We have seen some alarmingly low figures in the MLS.  Good Luck!

03/26/2008 09:54 AM by Katherine Anderson, Managing Broker (Coldwell Banker Hobin Realty, LLC - Hampton & Rye, NH, USA)


We shouldnt be afraid of FSBOs.  I'm an Exclusive Buyer Agent and I have worked with several buyers on FSBO.  My Buyer Agency Agreement addresses this scenario by allowing us to negotiate the buyer agent's fee into the purchase contract.  Most FSBO sellers don't have a problem with this.  They are happy to have a buyer and are happy to have one that is represented because they know that the transaction will go smoother because I will be helping the buyer through the process.  As long as you disclose to the seller that they are unrepresented and that you are solely representing the buyer, you're fine.  I've even had sellers ask for my card to give to other buyers who had been interested but clearly needed representation. 

A lot of agents don't want the extra work that goes with a FSBO and I do know of some agents who thought they had to get a single party listing in order to show a FSBO and almost ruined the deal for their buyers, but a FSBO is just another available home.  Make sure your buyer knows what your practice is, though, before you start working with them, otherwise you just walked into a minefield.

03/26/2008 10:06 AM by Gloria Ruesch Nebraska-Iowa Exclusive Buyers' Agent (New Idea Realty Services, LLC)


Monique,

I personally WILL NEVER ask a Buyer to pay.......however I see where some have had many issues that they want and should receive some compensation.  I have had success with the FSBO issue, however I know of some who did not.

I agree when we discuss all options up front then any misunderstandings can be avoided.

03/26/2008 10:31 AM by Dan Brudnok - ePRO, ABR, CSP - Chester County, PA Real Estate Pro (Keller Williams - Exton - PA License Number #RS225179L )


Gloria...there is no fear of FSBO's here.  Just a buyer who feels he no longer owes a commission because the agent did not find him the house.   Also, this is going on with a collegue of mine, so I am not sure how much explaining went on prior to the buyer signing the buyer agency.  I do agree, the more we can explain up front the better.

03/26/2008 12:21 PM by Monique Tenander, Waterfront Specialist (Bean Group, LLC)


Monique, If the agent didn't find the house and didn't put the transaction together, then the buyer agency agreement must not have made an impact and apparently wasn't explained properly.  If agents address the possibility of finding FSBO up front and how buyers still need to be represented, this issue shouldn't come up.  If the buyer doesn't understand the agreement, trying to make them pay now is pointless, and if they did understand, the agent would have been involved in the transaction.  In your particular example, apparently both parties lose.  So sorry.

03/26/2008 09:41 PM by Gloria Ruesch Nebraska-Iowa Exclusive Buyers' Agent (New Idea Realty Services, LLC)


Monique-When I discuss agency with my buyers I tell them that, if they see a for sale by owner (FSBO), they should contact me and I will contact the owner. This way the buyer is has an advantage over the seller in being represented by a professional. I further tell them that I have all the tools for doing a good comparative market analysis, so that they don't overpay. I'd present the FSBO with a notice of "no representation" that advises them that I represent the buyer's interest and that i expect the FSBO to pay the commission from the proceeds of the sale. I think that the buyers appreciate that.

Having said all that, I still don't believe in holding anyone hostage. If they go on their own after all that is explained, I would let them go. Long term, maintaining a good reputation is better than a commission on one sale.

Totally off topic, but that is a very cute little Maltese in the photo with you.

03/28/2008 12:35 PM by Rich Quigley CRS, GRI, ABR, SRES (Baird & Warner)


Monique, I represent primarily sellers, but I do pick up the occasional buyer as well.  Although  I have never had the issue of a buyer going directly to a FSBO.  When I rep buyers I use the buyers rep agreement as a matter of practice.  Although in theory it could be used to enforce payment in such a situation, I don't know that I every would. If for no other reason than leaving a bad taste in the mouth of the buyer and myself.  If I didn't rep them in the deal, then I really see no need to pursue it.  Now if I represented them and the seller couldn't afford the fee's then the buyer would need to come up with them.  Typically the rep agreements are used here to protect the agent from predatory efforts of some of the less ethical agents around. I have even been known to tell a couple of buyers of my listings, that they had an understood agreement with another agent, even if the piece of paper wasn't signed. Although dual agency allowed in Texas, I prefer to stay away from it unless it is a buyer that is unrepresented making a full price offer without contingencies. (rare, but it happens)

03/29/2008 03:01 PM by Roger Smith (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage)


I like Katherine's response. What I normally do is put a flat fee in my Buyer's Agency agreement--like a retainer. I explain that this fee can be paid at closing, but it's due even if they buy a FSBO

03/29/2008 03:31 PM by Realty Executives - Erica Ramus - 570 622 6006


It's a rare FSBO that won't offer to pay a cooperating broker.  I don't know that I'd fight for it when push came to shove.  I have other things to do.

03/29/2008 06:03 PM by Sandra Carlisle, Realtor - Newport Beach - Corona del Mar (First Team Estates)


If you included FSBO'S in your buyers contract, I probably would not enforce it but would explain to them what they have done and then wish them best and ASK for referrals

04/01/2008 04:41 PM by DORIS FREEMAN, Realtor - ABR (RELIANT REALTY LLC)


This is a issue that we have all come across before.  For me it will come down to each client and how things have progressed up to that point.  One buyer I was dealing with a year and a half ago, if I would have had a Buyers contract signed with them, I would have totally gone after my commissions! He has a handful cost me a lot of time, and he liked to pull the strings on the what and when we saw listings. Even when it came to writing offers, we wrote 7 in total, and he didn't take my advice/suggestions on any.  He really was looking the perfect deal.  3 weeks later, after only being $1000 apart on the last offer, we (myself and the selling Realtor) just couldn't get the deal to come together that night. The next day, my buyer went to another Realtor and wrote the same offer and it was accepted and that Realtor walked away with my commission cheque.  Live and learn, and let me tell you I learned a lot from him! Now, on the other hand, I almost lost a client to a FSBO, and if I had, I would have still done business with them in the future.  The question I suppose, is how much time and energy have you put into them, and will you ever get anything back? At that point how you proceed is situation specific. Kind of related to cutting commissions, we do with some and not with others, depends on the clients and situation.

04/15/2008 12:35 PM by Tania King (Century 21 The Professionals)


I would let them go. I actually have had the experience of having my buyer call me from the FSBO home and having me talk to the owner because she refused to make an offer even though she really loved the house if they would not work with me as her representative. A lot can depend on the relationship you have developed with the client over the time you have been working with them.

It also depends on the client and how confident they feel in their ability to negotiate a transaction on their own. I work with a lot of first time buyers (as was the case above) and many of them are afraid to do anything without your support and advice. I think part of what helps is positioning yourself as an adviser and consultant whose judgement they trust. Some people are never going to see you that way no matter what you do or say but many will.

In addition to the Buyer Broker Agreement, I now have my clients also agree to the Four Agreements which I subscribe to for my business and if they are not willing to do that then we are not meant to work together http://www.miguelruiz.com/

They are very simple, but in the world we live in and the rush we are usually in, they are not easy.

Briefly summarized from the cover of the book:

1. Be Impeccable With Your Word
Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love.

2. Don't Take Anything Personally
Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won't be the victim of needless suffering.

3. Don't Make Assumptions
Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness and drama. With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life.

4. Always Do Your Best
Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick. Under any circumstance, simply do your best

 

 

04/22/2008 12:15 AM by Deb Hurt, ABR, e-Pro, EcoBroker, TRC (Exit Realty of Albuquerque)


Most of the time price is arbitrary.  People get so emotionally attached to some item in their contract that they feel they have to behave poorly in order to perserve it.  For instance if the negotiations come down to $2k difference between parties and they want to look to the agents commission, ask why that price is so important.  It usually has to do with feelings.  Most people would not risk losing a buyer or a house over $2K.  They just get caught up in winning.

04/23/2008 10:44 AM by ERA Heavener Realty Co.


When its all said and done, I would let the seller go.  Its not worth the fight to me. 

I do make sure the buyer knows though:

1.  I make my living doing this.  I feed my kids, but them shoes, pay bills.  I can not work for free. 

2.  A large portion of my earned checks go to office supplies, E&O insurance (malpractice insurance), brokerage fees, gas, I can not work for free.  Not for family, not for friends.  I can not afford it, this is how I make a living. 

3.  I can't help once a deal is in place.  What ever contracts you sign, what ever you do, I am not your Realtor.  I'll let you walk away, but KNOW, I AM NOT YOUR REPRESENTATION, and will not help in the transaction.  To do so puts my Brokerage, my license, my family, and the new pair of shoes at risk. 

 So go at it alone or let me do my job and negotiate a deal for you.  At this point we are going to have to sign an exclusive buyers contract if they agree to representation.  I have to protect my license and more importantly my Brokers intrest. 

I just had to explain this last week to a client.  I pulled off the road into a parking off so I could make sure she understood me 100%.  What ever she decides I guess.  I aint waiting for the call, but i'm here it comes in. 

04/23/2008 11:34 AM by Chad Baird (Re/Max Spirit)


Let them go. It's hard but you might get some referrals from them. I agree with Chad 100% too.

04/23/2008 11:46 AM by LaNita Cates (REMAX of Joliet)


Remember, you are an advocate for your client. If you toss them over to some FSBO shark how much good are you really doing them?

In the end, we don't work for free. This is not a matter of loyalty it is a matter of practicality. I already donate plenty to charity each year I can't afford to give away business. My first inclination would be to convince the FSBO to let me represent the buyers on his dime. Failing this I would discuss financing options with the buyer. Sometimes I trade referrals for coin. Knocking your fee down in return for 5 good referrals is a great way to make Peter pay for Paul.

Never assume that commissions are black and white. ALL COMMISSIONS ARE NEGOTIABLE. So negotiate! Certainly there are many things of value your client can give you in return for your services if you are prepared to think outside the box.

05/02/2008 12:19 PM by Todd Amelio, (Silicon Valley) GRI, CRS, ABR.. (Intero Real Estate Services)


I would let them go. No hard feelings. I would even buy them a house warming gift and stop by to present it to them. REFERALS!

05/02/2008 12:46 PM by Laura Jefferson (Asset Realty)


I would let them go.  BUT I would also ask them if I gave them good service and is the answer is yes then ask them if you can keep them as one of your business associates that you go to for leads and stay in contact with them.  I'll bet that will surprise them - hey - I think I'll take my own advice and re-contact one that got away last month!

Kathy Carson, RE/MAX 1st Olympic, Lynchburg, VA

05/02/2008 12:54 PM by Kathy Carson Lynchburg, VA, RE/MAX REALTOR, Bedford Co, Campbell Co (RE/MAX 1st Olympic, ABR, GRI)


If you have an exclusive buyer agency agreement they need to have a good explanation before you release them. On the other hand, an exclusive agency-buyer-agency would have been a good option if the buyer wanted to join in the search without a commission liability if the buyer procured the deal.  If you have an exclusive you should enforce your contract. Your standing up for the rights of all of your colleagues, your profession and your brokerage, as well. Your also demonstrating that your a serious agent working for your buyer. Good post, Monique. Have a great weekend.

05/02/2008 01:12 PM by David Saks - Real Estate Broker (The Real Estate Mart of Tennessee, Inc.)


I don't try to go after a commission that I'm not earning.  Looking at it from the buyer's standpoint only...they might wonder what I'm doing to be paid for a commission on a house I didn't find...didn't show and didn't write a contract and didn't follow to closing.  I try to work with a buyer by telling them to pay me a FLAT FEE to "Represent them" IF they happen to see a FSBO they want to purchase.  I'll even meet them at the FSBO house.  I'd rather "earn" something and maintain a relationship that their friends and relatives can have a positive feeling about for future referrals.

05/02/2008 02:15 PM by David W. Bolick (Network Real Estate, Inc.)


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