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The Stairs Are Wrong, But What's That?

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Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

The contractor, of course, said they didn't need a permit, and the stairs are wrong, but what's that?

One should exit the door to a 36" platform, the stairs are not of proper or equal height, there should be two handrails and the stairs cover the siding and rim joist (moisture and termite invitation).

Well, I see that so much lately none of this was a surprise.

But why would solid concrete stairs have a hole in the middle of a stair?  What's that?

I sidled up to have a peek inside.

Thinking that surely the cover could be removed I tried, but it was glued in there tightly!  Trying to remove it previously might be how it got broken.

Getting closer, can you see what it is?  I was shocked to see it is the dryer vent cover!  And looking inside it was easy to see how clogged it is.

Looking deeper reveals how much more clogged the tubing is.  And the photo does not do it justice.  It's clogged!

Such covers are NOT appropriate for dryer vents.  In the winter they are cold and the air is hot.  That tube gets cold throughout its run from the rim joist to this point.  And the warm air that passes through it creates condensation, and the lint in the tubing and vent sticks and clogs.

IT IS A FIRE HAZARD WAITING TO HAPPEN!

Additionally, the vent from the dryer is the typical 4" solid metal tube, and that is great.  But it funnels down and into this 2" plastic tube, which also causes clogging.

My recommendation:  before a project always check to see if what you are doing requires a permit.  Doing that first is always a Best Practice.  It probably only takes a phone call.   My county has a link on its website that says, "When do I need a permit?"  And clicking brings up a list.  It's best to check to make sure you are not left with dangerous conditions or remodeling that does not meet codes.  Codes are minimum standards, to be sure.  But certainly one of the best reasons for them is safety.

 

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments(48)

Lottie Kendall
Compass - San Francisco, CA
Helping make your real estate dreams a reality

The stories you have to tell, Jay!

Jun 28, 2014 08:24 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Well, Eric, I hope that isn't so!  Everyone should have caught this!

Gayle - I find that often homeowners will believe a contractor that says they don't need a permit.  Too bad.

Bill - that might work as regards the dryer vent.  But the other problems remain.

Lottie - they just keep coming!

Jun 28, 2014 08:32 AM
Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
The People You Know, Like and Trust!

What a mess. How backed up the dryer vent is no one really knows. Do it yourselfer? Probably...

Jun 28, 2014 08:43 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Jay, it is humbling to know that I am not smart enough to think stuff up like this.

Jun 28, 2014 09:00 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Not sure who did it Evelyn, but it is there!

Charlie - I am with you.  This takes creativity beyond my imagination.

Jun 28, 2014 09:24 AM
Ed Silva, 203-206-0754
Mapleridge Realty, CT 203-206-0754 - Waterbury, CT
Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally

Not having a landing is a great way to keep the law suits coming. Guess they didn't want to use too much of that patio

Jun 28, 2014 11:19 AM
Pamela Seley
West Coast Realty Division - Murrieta, CA
Residential Real Estate Agent serving SW RivCo CA

The homeowners are probably wondering why their dryer is not drying their clothes. The vent is clogged!! 

Jun 28, 2014 11:31 AM
Mike Cooper, Broker VA,WV
Cornerstone Business Group Inc - Winchester, VA
Your Neighborhood Real Estate Sales Pro

Jay, just when I thought I had seen it all somebody pulls the old dryer vent in the step routine. That was creative. Goofy, but creative.

Jun 28, 2014 11:41 AM
Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services

Jay - I have never seen anything like that before.  It looks like something that should be addressed sooner than later.

Jun 28, 2014 12:10 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Ed - just when you think it's safe to go outside!

Pamela - not drying is a sure sign there is a problem somewhere.

Both those things Mike!  And more!  This is an old trick?

Joan - move the dryer vent and turn that hole into a light?

Jun 28, 2014 07:45 PM
Scott Seaton Jr. SLS Home Insp
SLS Home Inspections-Kankakee Will Iroquois Grundy Counties - Bourbonnais, IL
The Home Inspector With a Heart!

Dryer vents are always making life difficult. But when you need a fire in an emergency out in the woods when it's 5 below and snow is flying and there's no tinder, nothing beats it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6MpSs47ZBY

Jun 28, 2014 11:41 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

That's it in a nutshell Scott!

So, the L in SLS must stand for Like?  With a thumbs up as you push the button?

But wait!  Your video didn't say anything about plastic vents outside!

Jun 28, 2014 11:49 PM
Rob Ernst
Certified Structure Inspector - Reno, NV
Reno, NV-775-410-4286 Inspector & Energy Auditor

The dryer vent is quite clever. It could have probably worked in a warm climate and with a the right cap on the end. With that restriction and a cold pipe it was doomed. 

Jun 29, 2014 12:10 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

A warm climate might work Rob.  But the big metal tube funnels down to a small plastic tube too.  That's clog territory there!

What end cap could you use on a staircase?

Jun 29, 2014 12:14 AM
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Jay, OH MY, that is a very strange place for the dryer vent!   Bet you see all kinds of creative construction!

Jun 29, 2014 12:28 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

This one truly ranks as creative, Joan!

Jun 29, 2014 12:31 AM
Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

Jay, Thanks for the post and helpful information.

Jun 29, 2014 05:56 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Thanks Sybil.  I hope you can benefit!

Jun 29, 2014 06:03 AM
Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

I thought it was going to be some type of safety light. Dryer vent isn't surprising though. it might have actually worked if they hadn't choked it down to 2".

Jun 29, 2014 11:03 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Jeff - if you can't get the grill off to clean it isn't a good idea anywhere.  But the moisture on the steps probably isn't good either in the winter.  It should be moved.  A light there would be great, except the staircase is covering the rim joist.

Jun 29, 2014 08:33 PM