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"To Condo or Not to Condo". That Should Be the Question ...

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Mortgage and Lending with NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 IL Lic 031.0006220/WI

 

"To Condo or Not to Condo"
That Should Be the Question ...

 


     As a Chicago-area Mortgage Lender, I never try to

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influence a Buyer as to the type of property they should or should not buy.  That's their personal choice ... and not my place.

     But as their Mortgage Lender and Advisor, I DO try to educate them regarding different property types and the pros and cons associated with each as it pertains to their upcoming mortgage process.  Why?  

     Because there are some fundamental differences in how differing property types flow through that process.  There can also be some differences in costs incurred while moving forward, as well. 

     When I talk of "differing property types", what exactly do I mean?  Here's my simple explanations:

  • Single-Family Residence Detached:  No common walls ... a free-standing House
  • Single-Family Residence Attached:   Examples of this classification are Duplexes and Townhomes with no Associations
  • PUD:  Planned Unit Development.  Can be either of the above classifications (Single-Family Detached or Attached) IF there is a formal recorded Homeowners Association which charges and collects Dues
  • Condominium:  An Association is in place, the LAND is commonly-owned, the Unit Owner does NOT own the land (only the Unit itself)


     Please Note:  I didn't include "Townhome or Townhouse" in the above.  Townhomes/Townhouses are NOT a property classification, rather only a "design or style" of residence. 

     Perhaps it's the former Residential Appraiser in me, but the buying public and their representatives need to know the impacts of the type of property (legal ownership) being considered for purchase.  The fact of the matter is, the classification of property (remember the definitions above) have a "preferred pecking order" in the eyes of mortgage lenders.

     What is the implied pecking order?  The "ideal" collateral for a Lender is the Single-Family Residence, Detached, with NO Association involved.   

     Why?   With this type of property, there are the least amount of rules and restrictions to address during processing.  Typically, there's also fewer (and fewer ways) for issues to arise during mortgage processing.  

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     The Automated Underwriting Models utilized by Lenders assesses the layer of risk involved with the specific property type being purchased by a Borrower.  Automated Underwriting also assesses the likelihood or potential for default on a loan.  

     
     In other words, Buyers with identical credit, identical income, the same employment, the same down payment and assets ... but buying differing property types ... MAY reap different results when it comes to an Approval/Acceptance via Automated Underwriting.

     Let me provide you an example of the extremes that can be found:


Detached Single-Family Residence
(most preferred)
VS
Condominium
(on the least preferred risk-based collateral)

 

 

     Depending on the down payment percentage:  The CONDO buyer will/may be charged a higher interest rate for their mortgage financing ... OR they may choose to pay higher Closing Costs, as a result of risk-based pricing assessed on a Conventional Loan, per Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.

 

 

     To support the existence of this phenomenon, I provide details from two of my most recent Pre-Qualifications.  They shed light into my explanations regarding property types.

 

 

     Scenario #1:  A First-Time Home Buyer had entered into a Contract to Buy.  She thought (and had been told prior to our consultation together) that she was viewing/purchasing a Townhome.  In fact, what she was buying was a Townhome only in style and design.

 

 

     What she was really viewing and had contracted for was legally a Condominium.  The land was commonly owned by the Association, and she as the Unit Owner would not own the land upon purchase as she had thought.

 

 

     End Result?  My Buyer cancelled her Contract after learning the facts and figures regarding her Mortgage process and the costs she would pay as a result of buying a Condominium.  Her Interest Rate would have been higher due to the Condominium rating.  

 

 

     After discovering the Rules, Regulations, Restrictions associated with the property ... and discovering that there were unpaid Assessments associated with this Unit and Complex ... she changed her mind about moving forward with her purchase.  She's presently in the search for another property.

 

 

     Scenario #2:  A past client that purchased a Townhome in a "PUD - Planned Unit Development" years ago, contacted me.  He is now looking to sell his Townhome and buy again.

 

 

     He's looking to purchase a Single-Family Residence (Detached with no Association) for his next home.  He's finding that selling his present property has some challenges.  By-laws and Declarations associated with his Townhome are impacting the sale and has eliminated some potential and hopeful Buyers from making offers.

 

 

     As a Result?  As he can qualify for a new Mortgage while retaining ownership (and the Mortgage) on his present Townhome, my client has decided to buy his new Single-Family Residence before selling.  He's in an enviable position, as many Buyers cannot do this.

 

 

     The two scenarios above point to a current and vivid reality:  The marketplace recognizes differences in property types.  Knowing this makes it somewhat easier to understand why Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac do likewise and why they rate property types differently.

 

 

     My next post will continue with this topic and showcase the impact of Condominium Property type on the pricing of a loan from an Interest Rate and Closing Cost perspective.  The info contained within these two posts will help you decide ...

 

 

"To Condo or Not to Condo"

 

 

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Comments(27)

Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Gene this is an excellent post for sellers and buyers - and agents that don't understand there is a BIG difference between property types and the pro's and con's of them.  Agents need to KNOW before they're showing a home, condo, or townhome what the legal status is and how it will impact their client.  This is something I'm going to add to a CE class of mine - thanks!

 

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Aug 26, 2014 06:24 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

George:  Check! Check! Check!  All true ... and both potential buyers, those hoping to sell, and agents must be educated regarding this.  All the things you mention can weigh on the financing and approval ...

Anna:  Woohoo!!  Thanks for the BananaTude nod today!  Glad that you will be broaching this topic in your CE class ... you prove why you're the TOP Banana ...

Gene

Aug 26, 2014 06:46 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

What happened to the "suggest" button?  Anyway, this a great insight into the difference, which I had no idea about!  But then, I am not a loan officer extraordinaire, as you are!  

Aug 26, 2014 07:17 AM
Nick T Pappas
Assoc. Broker ABR, CRS, SFR, e-Pro, @Homes Realty Group, Broker/Providence Property Mgmnt, LLC Huntsville AL - Huntsville, AL
Madison & Huntsville Alabama Real Estate Resource

Gene, very informative post and most consumers don't know that critical difference between a condo and townhouse.  Many condos are also getting harder to qualify for FHA financing because of so many condo associations are letting their FHA Certs expire.

Aug 26, 2014 09:12 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

Awww Carla .. you're always so kind!  Thanks so much ... and glad you found the post and its info beneficial ...

Nick:  Definitely a HUGE issue in the Chicago area too.  Hopefully a better economy within the HOAs will improve that stat soon.  In the meantime, it's best for buyers and their agents to be aware ...

Gene

Aug 26, 2014 10:14 AM
Nevin Williams
Fairway Independent Mortgage Corporation - Cary, NC
Senior Mortgage Advisor

Great post Gene!  One thing I figured out long ago is that if the HOA had more than 15% delinquencies at the time of the HOA cert, just wait a week and try again. In manyinstances the checks come in and the delinquency ratio drops low enought to proceed.

Aug 27, 2014 05:43 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

We certainly have to learn patience with these transactions, Nevin.  Timing can make all the difference ... thanks for interjecting that point!

Gene

Aug 27, 2014 06:51 AM
Ron Marshall
Marshall Enterprises - Saint Michael, MN
Birdhouse Builder Extraordinaire

Excellent blog post, Gene.  These are things that I never knew.  And, while I am very happy where I am, they are issues that I might have to consider down the road.  Thanks!

Aug 28, 2014 04:35 AM
Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Great point of town homes. We are building them on zero lot lines so they have lot and block, and there is an HOA that includes lawn mowing. We do advetise them as town homes becasue that is a new and hot category in Oklahoma City where not many have been built and the demand is strong, unlike condos which are not in high demand.

Aug 28, 2014 07:24 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

Joe:  Funny how different locales have different twists on housing.  I never thought after the downturn that we'd see large number of condos being built again in Chicago ... but they're going up.  Glad to hear that OK City has a surging market .. and that you are involved in it ..

Gene

Aug 28, 2014 12:54 PM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

Ron:  You make a good point ... it's not only 1st-time buyers purchasing condos.  Retirees and empty-nesters find them popular too.  We don't always know what the future brings, so you're right ... we should all be informed and educated ...

Gene

Aug 28, 2014 12:57 PM
Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher
I find condos to be places for people to find themselves. Condos are for people who are kind of wondering in life for the moment.
Aug 29, 2014 01:38 PM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Gene, I can simply say, it pays to work with a professional! A team of real estate agent and lender can guide the first time home buyer in right direction. To 'condo' or not to 'condo'!

Aug 29, 2014 01:47 PM
Angela Griffith
Downing Frye Realty, Inc. - Bonita Springs, FL

Now more than ever it is important for a buyer to have a sharp enough mortgage broker to catch the fine print and legal description to make sure even a single family looking home isn't a condo.  There are a hand full of "homes" in our area that are actually condos.  One particular builder had them developed that way.  It is very confusing for consumers.

Aug 29, 2014 08:53 PM
Amanda Christiansen
Christiansen Group Realty (260)704-0843 - Fort Wayne, IN
Christiansen Group Realty

You always write such informational blogs Gene.  I'm going to re-tweet this one if you don't mind.  Heck.  I know you don't mind.  

Aug 29, 2014 09:31 PM
Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573
MOOERS REALTY - Houlton, ME
Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker

Excellent post. We have condos at the ski areas, along the ocean but deeper inland, nope. Go fish.

Aug 29, 2014 11:34 PM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

Laura:  You're quite right that Condo owners often have a bit of a "twist" on property ownership.  How intuitive of you!

Praful:  It truly should be teamwork.  You're so right!  And as Laura points out above, condos can be the perfect place for some ... but not for others.  We need to give them all the info so they can make the right decision for themselves ...

Daniel:  I agree that the professionals ... all of them ... working within the transaction need to know and understand these differences.  But typically the agent and Lender are the leads on this ... so we must be extra vigilant and knowledgeable.  You make a great point ...

Jared:  I'm glad you feel that way!  Re-tweet away ... I appreciate it ...

Andrew:  Condos can definitely be housing done in bunches.  Some areas of the country are fairly void of them, while others have huge concentrations ..

Gene

Aug 30, 2014 12:09 AM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good afternoon Gene,

You really spelled things out for the consumer..great job on your well deserved featured post! Condos are not for everyone but we do see a segment of the population that a condo fits the build perfectly!

Aug 30, 2014 05:39 AM
Evelyn Santiago, Managing Broker Heart Realty Group, Inc.
Heart Realty Group, Inc.. - Oswego, IL
Passionate About Real Estate & Our Clients!

Terrific post - educational, precise and to the point as always!  Will refer my buyers to it since you explained everything much better than I could!

Aug 30, 2014 09:27 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

Dorie:  Exactly ... they are not for all.  But for those that they fulfill their needs and suit their lifestyle, they must be educated ...

Evelyn!  I see you survived the last week!  And you know .. I love working with you.  We make a great team ... so looking forward to it!  Talk soon ...

Gene

Aug 31, 2014 12:28 AM