Does the Right Hand Know What the Left Hand is Doing?

I came across this the other day during a home inspection.  Air Conditioning condensers have a data plate which has various information on it.  One part being the maximum and minimum breaker or fuse size allowed.  This particular data plate indicated the minimum size was 30-amps and the maximum size was 50-amps.  So what did the builder do?

undersized wires

 

The builder put in a 50-amp breaker.  No problem, right?

 

undersized wire

 

However, as can be seen better at the A/C disconnect box, the wires are only rated for a maximum 30-amp breaker.  What happened?  Maybe one contractor started the job and another finished it (improperly), thus the name of the post.  Or maybe a 50-amp breaker was all that was left in the truck at the end of the day.  We may never know exactly why it happened.

But what I do know is the danger of using undersized wires.  The wires could basically melt, scorch or cause a fire before the breaker tripped.  I advised my clients of this and explained that there were two choices:

1.  Put a 30-amp breaker in the main panel.  This would be within the range as indicated on the data plate.  HOWEVER, when the minimum recommended breaker/fuse is used, nuisance tripping can occur.  That means that when the A/C us being used during the summer, it might randomly or consistently trip off the breaker.  You then have to go out to the main panel and trip it back on.  Hence the name "nuisance" tripping.

2.  Replace the wires with the proper rated #6 AWG copper wires and run conduit from the main panel to the A/C condenser.  Conduit would have to be used since the original wires are in the wall and therefore the wall would have to be opened up to access them (not an easy task).

I hope this gives you a little more information about home inspections and their value.  Be safe out there.

 

 

11 Comments on Does the Right Hand Know What the Left Hand is Doing?

This happens more often than people think. I inspected a house where the contractor scratched all of the information off the nameplate. I have no idea why. I am waiting for the utilities to come on to see what happens. Thank you for the information Joseph.

04/02/2008 11:28 AM by Frank Schulte-Ladbeck (Frank Schulte-Ladbeck Professional Real Estate Inspections)


Frank, that's interesting that the data plate was scratched?

Charles, I guess that's one way to look at it  :-)

David, it never fails.

04/02/2008 01:25 PM by Joseph Lang - Southern California Home Inspector (Pillar To Post Professional Home Inspection)


Joseph,

I always check the data plate and record the manufacturers maximum circuit breaker size for the unit. I then compare that to the breaker in the panel. Just as you pointed out they must not exceed the stated maximum.

BUT, the wires can actually be smaller than the rated maximum for the breaker.  Notice in the tag below the minimum circuit ampacity 19.6. The Maximum breaker size is 30 Amps. Believe it or not a #12 wire (20 amp) would be OK wired to a 30 amp breaker on this unit.

Now if I saw what Joe saw I would have done exactly the same thing. I always check the breaker and wire size against the tag and look inside the service switch behind the unit for correct wiring. I am surprised how many inspectors neglect to check these items yet record the compressor cooling size.

Good post Joe. This is an often overlooked and important part of inspecting an A/C system.

 

04/03/2008 07:19 AM by James Quarello - ASHI Certified CT Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC)


Hi Joseph.  Great post, great information.  Thanks for sharing.

Have a great day!

04/04/2008 01:54 PM by Richard Ives (RE/MAX AT HOME)


Joseph:

Good post. It is very interesting what turns up in a good inspection. Good work.

04/04/2008 10:20 PM by Alan Kirkpatrick Austin Texas Real Estate (Austin Texas Homes)


There's nothing better than a good home inspector.  We always tell our clients that they need that third opinion.  I would rather hear about during the inspection then get an angry call after we close.

04/05/2008 01:27 PM by Peter Wolf (Coldwell Banker)


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