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In the Wake of Tragedy, the Real Estate Community is Beside Itself

Reblogger Susan Haughton
Real Estate Agent with Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 0225085927

Chris Ann Cleland makes some excellent points below and there are excellent suggestions in the comments below, as well. 

I had decided earlier the world did not need my voice added to the cacophony of noise about this tragic situation, when something occurred just a few minutes ago to change my mind. 

My phone rang and when I answered, a very enthusiastic gentleman proceeded to tell me he was on a street in front of one of my team's listings and wanted more information.  If possible, he was a little too chatty, but I chalked it up to personality. 

Long story short, after a lengthy phone conversation, in which he told me was in a branch of law enforcement with the federal government, he asked to make an appointment to see 3 houses tomorrow morning - EARLY.  He said he could meet as early as 6 a.m.  I explained to him that was not an option and said I'd get back with him once I made arrangements for an agent to meet him.

When I texted him back (he requested a text back), to say I had an agent to meet him tomorrow at 9 a.m. at our office, his immediate response was "Let's meet at xxxproperty addressxxx."  

That property happens to be vacant. 

I texted him back "Sorry, we do not meet unknown prospects at properties without meeting first the office,  getting a copy of a photo ID and discussing agency."  That has always been our standard, recent events notwithstanding and we certainly weren't going to change course now without a very good reason.  Obviously, if it is a referral from a trusted source, that's different.  But a sign call?  I don't think so.  

His response?  "Too bad."  

I thought that was a very odd response for someone who claimed to be in law enforcement;  in fact, I was rather taken aback that his response wasn't, "You're smart to do that" or something to that effect.

So, did we lose a prospective client or dodge a bullet?  At the least, if harmless, he was already a little too arrogant in his response, given he gave no logical reason for refusing to come to the office.  Not a client we need - or want. 

Worst case scenario?  Then good judgement may have just saved us from an unfortunate outcome.

Original content by Chris Ann Cleland VA License # 0225089470

In the Wake of Tragedy, the Real Estate Community is Beside Itself

Waking up this morning and having the story of murdered real estate agent Beverly Carter, my heart sank for her friends and family.  It is horrifying to think of the evil that lurks in our world.   And as expected, the real estate community is flailing, lighting up social media talking about the tragedy.

The first tidbit I read focused on the murderer's motive---that he thought Beverly Carter was rich.  The poster went on to talk about how the public needs to realize that real estate agents aren't rich.  Rich people are not the only targets of perverts and psychopaths.  College students aren't rich, yet Virginia is anxiously waiting for news about Hannah Graham and horrified to hear that there may have been a serial killer targeting women along the Route 29 corridor.

Never meet a brand new buyer for the first time at a property.Whether you make a lot of money in this business, or have yet to earn a paycheck, you are a target.  Why?  We work in vacant homes and are usually alone with our clients.  I've heard a lot of discussion today, and agents in my local area begging for pearls of wisdom from the real estate board.  Here's some common sense for all of us in the community.

1.  Don't be a pop tart agent.  When someone wants to see a home, make sure they get qualified for a loan FIRST.  Odds are, criminals are not going to want to go through the harang of pre-pproval just so they get the chance to harm or kill you.  And here's a novel idea--you'll actually figure out quickly if you have a legitimate prospect anyway.

2.  Never meet a stranger at a property for the first time.  Meet them in a public place, like your office, or if an independent broker, at a coffee shop.  Of course, when a stranger calls and wants to see a listing, refer to the statement above.  Get them qualified.

3.  When you are taking out a new client make a copy of their drivers license and leave it with your office, or email it to someone via cell phone picture.  Most importantly, announce what you are doing.  

4.  Let someone in your office, friend or family member know where you are going.  Leave a list of the properties you are showing.

5.  If possible, take someone with you while showing a home.  Say someone calls and says they have been preapproved and you decide to disregard all of the above steps because you really need a paycheck and these folks sound okay.   Don't go alone.

6.  Take a self defense course.  Everyone should know how to defend themselves.

7.  Call the NRA and find out about how to become a responsible gun owner.  Get some practice on a gun range and, if comfortable with the idea, learn about what is involved in concealed carry of a hand gun.  I know agents in our marketplace that conceal carry and I can't say it's a bad idea.  

First and foremost, stop focusing on the potential commission and the concept of right now that the person on the phone is pushing.  You may lose a buyer or two that are impatient, but you will have your life if you put up qualifying barriers between yourself and out of the blue buyers.

 

Chris Ann Cleland, Bristow-Gainesville Real Estate Agent, 703-402-0037Chris Ann Cleland, Associate Broker-Licensed in VA

Top Producing Agent 2013 & 2011

Long & Foster REALTORS®, Manassas, VA

703-402-0037, ChrisAnn@LNF.com

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The opinions expressed in this post are those of Chris Ann Cleland, not those of Long & Foster REALTORS®.

Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Susan, I would suggest sending this fellow's info on to the local and federal law enforcement agencies, if he is a fed then his superiors may talk to him about manners, and if he is a criminal then you may be saving the life of the next agent that he calls.

 

 

Sep 30, 2014 06:48 AM
Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

Hi, Susan...you did the right thing. There is no point in compromising your own safety. 

Sep 30, 2014 09:03 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

There are buyers like this out there, but it's better to be safe than sorry.  I guess he thought the fact that he TOLD you he was in law enforcement that you were supposed to feel fine and bend your policies.  

Thanks for the reblog.

Sep 30, 2014 09:10 AM
Jenna Dixon
Momentum Real Estate Group LLC - Marietta, GA
55 & Over | New Constructions | Horse Farms

I think we all get calls like this and you handled it perfectly.  I know that my husband has always "sort of" worried about me in the past, today he looked damn near petrified as I left the house.  And I was only going to the barn.

Changes are on the horizon, for some.  For others, it will be business as usual in about 2 days.  I wish that we could get a top down ruling on this from our state commissions setting up common standards that would be made very public.

Sep 30, 2014 09:13 AM
Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results.

Bob Crane Excellent suggestion. I did call the listing agents who had the other properties, explained I may be overreacting, but wanted them to know what had happened with me, in case they got a similar call. Their choice to go, of course, but I gave them a heads up.

Sep 30, 2014 09:21 AM
Jenna Dixon
Momentum Real Estate Group LLC - Marietta, GA
55 & Over | New Constructions | Horse Farms

I am just throwing this out there, a public service announcement from NAR on a nationally televised platform would be nice to see.  Showing support for agents and building public awareness of safety practices that the brokerages will be rolling out.  My two cents.

Sep 30, 2014 10:11 AM
Christine O'Shea
Christine E O'Shea Broker - Naples, FL

Your office probably dodged a bullet!  Always follow your instincts and if we all stick together and do not meet unknowns at a vacant property things like this will not happen.

Sep 30, 2014 12:18 PM
Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

Good morning Susan. All of us had a bad feeling about this, as soon as it went public. You cannot be to careful, as we all know there are a lot of crazies out there. You were very wise in your decision process.

Sep 30, 2014 07:32 PM
Conrad Allen
Re/Max Professional Associates - Webster, MA
Webster, Ma, Realtor

Hi Susan.  You are a smart lady.  Don't be a victim.

Sep 30, 2014 08:29 PM
Debb Janes
Nature As Neighbors - Camas, WA
Put My Love of Nature At Work for You

Susan, a wonderful public service post. You were smart to listen to your intuition and something sounds so fishy about this guy. ( The murder of the agent is horrific - I just can't imagine.) 

Oct 01, 2014 12:27 AM
Sharon Tara
Sharon Tara Transformations - Portsmouth, NH
Retired New Hampshire Home Stager

Such a tragedy!  I get goose bumps just hearing your story.  Good call.  No loss there, he sounds like trouble even if he wasn't a threat.

Oct 01, 2014 02:52 AM
Yolanda Cordova-Gilbert
Richmond, TX

Susan,

 Great re-blog and oh that does not sound like law enforcement at all, I wonder if he thought you would let your guard down when he said that! It is scary! I am glad that no one met him.

Oct 01, 2014 09:27 AM
Jon Kolsky
Kolsky Realty & Management - Long Beach, CA
Licensed California Real Estate Broker

Susan Haughton ~ I believe your stellar judgment did prevent a bad outcome. Thankfully, you handled it perfectly!

Oct 01, 2014 09:48 AM
Lou Ludwig
Ludwig & Associates - Boca Raton, FL
Designations Earned CRB, CRS, CIPS, GRI, SRES, TRC

Susan

It's a very sad story . . . . We all have to think safety first.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

Oct 01, 2014 01:08 PM
Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®
Lewisburg, WV
Lewisburg WV, the go to agent for all real estate

Susan, so sorry to read about this. We must always listen to our intuition.  My husband is always telling me to be careful, and asking what property I am showing. If it is vacant property, he will go with me.

Oct 01, 2014 09:33 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Susan, smart move on your part.  And yes, one would expect a prospect in law enforcement to  understand.

Oct 02, 2014 02:00 PM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good morning Susan,

Excellent response to this gentleman and if he was a law enforcement officer he would not have made that comment. Way too creepy! Let him bother someone else and I hope they give him the same response.

Oct 02, 2014 10:37 PM
Dale Poll
Dale Poll Photography - Colorado Springs, CO

Because of your judgement, there was no bad outcome.

Oct 03, 2014 07:56 PM
Donna Foerster
HomeSmart Realty Group - Parker, CO
Metro Denver Real Estate Assistant

Susan~ It's a good policy and should be standard operating procedure. I'm sure you dodged a bullet.

Oct 04, 2014 01:36 PM