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     My recent blog about a bathroom ventilation fan being covered over by a decorative ceiling, made me wish I had some good pictures of how dirty these fans can actually get. Because home inspectors don't usually take these fans apart, our opportunity to take actual pictures of their interior condition is limited.  Perhaps the next time I clean mine I will take some "before" and "after" pictures---or maybe some of you can go check your own and send me pictures.

     If you have the type of fan unit with a heating element---they can get even nastier.  Did you ever notice the foul smell that these ceiling heaters give off when you start them up?  One of the primary components of the debris that collects in these vents/heaters is skin---yup---skin.  When you turn on the heater, this protein burns off making the room smell like singed hair.

     The pictures I will share are "exterior" signs of the overall condition of the units.  I can guarantee that whatever you see on the exterior---the interior is worse.  This first picture is of the ceiling grille (decorative cover) of a bathroom exhaust fan that has to be removed to access the interior components for cleaning.  The cover is so "evenly" coated, at first glance, it almost looks like it is supposed to look that way---it will not however, hold up a tissue paper while it is operating.plugged vent

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

      If you turn on the fan and it will hold a tissue paper you can surmise that it is at least drawing some air.fan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

     Fans that are very noisy are often noisy because the fan is loaded up with lint making it out of balance---causing noise and vibration.  While not the best example, this next picture (on the left) shows considerable lint build up on the inside of the unit and on the fan rotor.  The picture was taken in the attic where the vent pipe had become disconnected and one could see inside the fan housing.  The picture on the right shows where the vent pipe has not been connected to the roof cap and there is a screen installed over the end of the pipe.  The screen is not only plugged with lint, but also vents moist air into the attic space (or at least did before the screen was plugged).  So you can see there is a lot that needs to be maintained with these units:  the ceiling cover, the unit itself, the ductwork, and the exterior termination point.dirty fanfan termination

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

      Cleaning these units will often make them quieter, but often times the cheaper units are just by nature noisy, and may warrant replacement.  When choosing fans it is important to choose ones with the appropriate CFM's for the space and with the lowest Sone rating.  (Basically the sone rating is just a "measure" of how much noise it makes----the lower the sone rating the quieter it will be.)  My experience is that noisy fans don't get used.  Also it is a real good idea to put the fans on a timer so that they run for an hour after showering.  It is important to move this moist air from the home to prevent mold growth and condensation due to high humidity.

     Establishing a routine cleaning schedule for all of the home's vent fans is recommended and there are many duct cleaning companies that specialize in this service.

 

 

Charles Buell 

     PS, for those of you that are new to my blog (or for some other "unexplained" reason have never noticed)sunsmile all  pictures and smiley-face inserts (emoticons) have messages that show up when you point at them with your cursor.

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12 Comments on Why is there a barbeque in my bathroom?

"Why is there a barbeque in my bathroom?"

Charlie, since you broached the topic, I will say that this is a question I have asked many times. In fact, last time I visited your house, accompanied by David Helm, we both asked the same question as we drove back to Bellingham: Why is there a barbeque in Charlie's bathroom?  

Perhaps you will elaborate further than you did here.

04/02/2008 01:49 PM by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection)


Charles, you must be pretty crazy in the bathroom if your toilet paper ends up on the exhaust fan grille  :-)

Very good post and a good reminder to everyone.   I can't wait until you come and clean mine.

04/02/2008 02:41 PM by Joseph Lang - Southern California Home Inspector (Pillar To Post Professional Home Inspection)


Steve, I feel like a puppy chasing my tail clicking on all those links.  You and Helm were at my house?

Joseph, it takes real skill to throw toilet paper "up" that high from a sitting position:)

04/02/2008 03:04 PM by Charles Buell, Seattle, WA, Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com)


Now Charles, had you been drinking before writing this blog.  Skin in the vent/heater?  Burning that protein? Steven, if you are nearby, go check on him.  In the meantime I've gotta go to the attic and check my vent thingamyjig.....

04/02/2008 06:44 PM by Barbara S. Duncan ABR, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage)


Barbara, not to gross you out, but check this definition of dust on Wikipediasunsmile.

04/02/2008 06:56 PM by Charles Buell, Seattle, WA, Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com)


Pictures say it all. Those vents aint venting much but an increased electric bill and a heated up fan motor.

Sean Allen

04/02/2008 07:45 PM by International Financing Solutions


There is no escape!!   Dust everywhere and it is all a part of us!!!!  Thanks for the definition.....

04/02/2008 08:57 PM by Barbara S. Duncan ABR, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage)


Charles, Good post! Bathroom exhaust venting is important. I do the old toilet paper trick myself. It is amazing how many fans I find that do not have sufficient pull. 

04/03/2008 04:40 AM by Michael Thornton - Nashville, TN area Home Inspector (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.)


Sometimes those cheap plastic covers do a lot of rattling and making noise too. If you pull them down and slightly bend one of the arm supports, sometimes that will quiet them.

04/03/2008 06:25 AM by KEVIN CORSA H.I.S. Home Inspections Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector (H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties))


Sean, good points

Barbara, remember the rabbit in Monte Python and the Holy Grail?  That is what dust "bunnies" really are---watch out!

Michael, I agree, totally amazing how many fans aren't functional at all

Kevin, great points

04/03/2008 10:26 AM by Charles Buell, Seattle, WA, Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com)


Such a quick and easy maintenance task, too!  I would imagine the efficiency of such fans is greatly affected.

04/03/2008 09:53 PM by Derek Bauer, Associate Broker - Door To Dreams Team www.DoorToDreams.com (Real Estate One, Inc.)


Charlie,

I saw your definition of dust. As you know, years ago, I was involved in training police dogs -- RCMP tracking dogs. That is the theory with the dogs. A dog tracking is tracking human skin cells shed as the person walks, runs, etc. Think about it. What else could the dog smell and, if you have done this, you know the dog is smelling the person. I have been on one mile and longer tracks where a Mountie dog tracked a person over creeks, around bends. If you know the path beforehand, it is amazing to watch the dog recreate it by nose alone.

04/07/2008 09:22 AM by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection)


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