My seller and I tried to short sell his home from September 2006 through January 2007. He was in default and we did receive offers that were rejected and of course foreclosed. When we originally listed the property we aimed at trying to get a little under what he paid for to satisfy the first and second lenders. The last offer we received was for $540,000 and the banks refused.

Just a few days ago my seller received a 1099 from his lender in the amount of approximatley $515,000. He has been panicking as you could imagine to have to pay taxes on this amount. I asked all throughout my office from my Broker to other Realtors, CPA's, etc and came up with one word. "Insolvency"

I called the C.A.R. hotline today and spoke to the real estate attorney today and they told me to go to the California Society of Certified Public Accountants (800)922-5272.  So I called the number and they told me to log on to http://www.calcpa.org/ and click on public , then click on find a cpa , then click unjder the category niche bankruptcy/insolvency. Then you would have to search under area code or zip code. I thought this was valuable information for a seller that does not want to pay taxes ontheir foreclosed home.

 

By the way the home I had listed is currently on the market at $399,000 MLS # 40318024

 

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27 Comments on What should you do when your home forecloses and you receive a 1099 for $500k ?

My guess is that it was a mistake.  Wasn't the property listed in the bankruptcy??  If he failed to list it, he can correct that.

Getting a 1099 for liens discharged in bankrputcy is insane.  Can only be a mistake.

 

04/02/2008 06:19 PM by Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Real Estate


He was never in a bankruptcy Lenn

04/02/2008 06:27 PM by Mike Jackson (Realty World Global)


In the past, homeowners were taxed on any amount forgiven by a lender in a short sale negotiation or foreclosure, which created a tremendous financial burden.  Now, under The Mortgage Relief Act (click here), the loan amount written off by a lender will no longer be considered taxable for debts forgiven between Jan. 1, 2007, and Dec. 31, 2009.  I hope your seller's foreclosure fell within that timeframe.

04/02/2008 06:36 PM by Margaret Woda, Maryland REALTOR (RE/MAX VISION)


His home foreclosed in January or February of 2007. I really don't know how they would determine if this is his owner occupied property since he owned another home in Brentwood..

04/02/2008 06:44 PM by Mike Jackson (Realty World Global)


Wow Mike what a mess,

I do not deal with foreclosures in our marked, But have tried to purchase a few in the Denver market and lenders continue to shoot themselves in the foot.

04/02/2008 07:21 PM by Jason & Deanna Long Breckenridge Real Estate (The Long Group)


That's true Jason and Deanna, but some of the deals do come together.

04/02/2008 07:42 PM by Mike Jackson (Realty World Global)


Mike:  There's no hiding from the IRS with bankruptcy...unfortunately.  Not sure how it goes with proving insolvency.  Sounds like your clients needs an attorney. 

04/03/2008 09:53 AM by Chris Ann Cleland, GRI (Long & Foster)


Mike, like Margaret, I thought the banks could no longer send 1099 for homes that foreclosed during that time frame?  Hopefully her link can help your client.  I wonder if the IRS has information, I am sure your client is not the first person this has happened to.  Good luck to your client.

04/03/2008 09:58 AM by Audrey June-Forshey, GRI, Gaithersburg, MD (RE/MAX Realty Group)


 Chris:It does sound like My client needs an attorney.

Audrey June: George Bush did pass the mortgage forgiveness act how does that apply to owners in California with multiple homes?

04/03/2008 10:46 AM by Mike Jackson (Realty World Global)


Mike, I have to say I am not sure.  I will have to study the bill.  I hate to say it though, do you think they will be lenient to people with multiple homes or the folks that have lost their only place to live?  This is good information I need to check on.  Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

04/03/2008 01:42 PM by Audrey June-Forshey, GRI, Gaithersburg, MD (RE/MAX Realty Group)


Audrey I would say they would be more lenient to a seller owning just one home as their owner occupied.

04/03/2008 01:55 PM by Mike Jackson (Realty World Global)


Mike, wow I can see why your seller would be panicking. Almost sounds like a mistake, but unfortunately now they have to work through it to defend themselves. Best of luck to you and them.

04/08/2008 01:14 PM by * Rate A Home (Rate A Home)


Thanks Duane, and thanks for the invite to your group I did join...

04/08/2008 02:13 PM by Mike Jackson (Realty World Global)


Mike, welcome to the group, glad to have you on-board. Look forward to reading your ThemThem posts.

04/08/2008 02:16 PM by * Rate A Home (Rate A Home)


Duane thanks again for the invite.

04/12/2008 01:47 PM by Mike Jackson (Realty World Global)


If the house was foreclosed upon, not a short sale, than the lender shouldn't be sending a 1099 because they didnt' forgive the debt.  They should be suing him for deficiency, assuming that CA allows this.  Then the deficiency can be discharged through bankruptcy.  Based on what you've written about this, it appears to be a mistake on the lender's part.

04/14/2008 07:14 AM by Don Carter (All Star Mortgage, LLC)


Mike,

 

Your question is what should you do?  What you should do is have him contact a tax professional.  Real Estate agents should not be giving tax advice.

04/14/2008 10:43 AM by Craig Dahl Orange County Broker (Key Realty Advisors California)


You're right Craig and I did advise my client to do just that.

04/14/2008 01:44 PM by Mike Jackson (Realty World Global)


Mike, I agree with Craig that having your client contact a CPA or tax attorney is the best course of action. When I am working with a client facing foreclosure or considering short sale, I recommend up front that they do this so they can a full understanding the potential tax implications going into the transaction.

04/24/2008 07:02 AM by Bonny Puckett ~ REALTOR ~ Fountain Hills, Scottsdale, AZ (Call Realty)


Craig and Bonnie I'm sure you read this post. If you look at the website that's highlighted in blue it's steering my client to a CPA, I'm not telling him what he should do. Sorry for the confusion.

04/24/2008 10:44 AM by Mike Jackson (Realty World Global)


MIKE, With the Mortgage Forgiveness Act the tax penalty for the foreclosure does not apply since it is retroactive to January 1, 2007. that only applies to your primary residence, which can be describe for any residence that you lived in for at least 2 of the past 5 years. If they qualify those criterias I would get his CPA to send the documents proving the criterias have been met. Hope that helps and your clients qualify.

04/24/2008 10:32 PM by Sidney Jimenez, CDPE, ASP (Keller Williams)


What a crazy mess. The banks refuses $540K offer and now is selling it for $399K?

04/24/2008 10:43 PM by Jon Zolsky (FunCoast Realty LLC)


MIKE, Also, please understand that the 1099 will be sent by the lender which is required for them to do. You clients have to fill out Form 982 to have the amount deducted from the gross income. That is the way this process works for the amount to be ignored as income.

04/24/2008 11:28 PM by Sidney Jimenez, CDPE, ASP (Keller Williams)


Thanks for the information Sidney.

04/25/2008 11:33 AM by Mike Jackson (Realty World Global)


This is what makes me so mad about some of these banks, that 1099 could have been for $10,000-$20,000 but instead they purposely took a loss on that property to dump it quickly and who pays for it? Your client and us tax payers!

Todd Clark, Helping Families Home - www.IFoundYourNewHome.com

07/31/2008 10:53 PM by Todd Clark (Realtor), GRI (Washington Co, Beaverton Oregon) (Kastings & Associates, Beaverton Oregon Real Estate)


It's unfortunate Todd, thanks for the comments

08/01/2008 12:50 PM by Mike Jackson (Realty World Global)


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