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CREDIT REPORTING AND SHORT SALES / FORECLOSURES - REVISITED

By
Real Estate Attorney with THE ZARETSKY LAW GROUP - Board Certified Real Estate Atty and AUTOMATED LAND TITLE COMPANY

I received an email on my quest to find the real answers to the incessant question of how a foreclosure vs. short sale vs. deed in lieu all affect the credit report of the borrower.

The email I recieved was from the President of a Florida credit counseling service and it was a response to my request that he review the previoius blog posting on How Does a Short Sale Affect Credit Scores.

Here is the crux of what he said:

What you stated in your blog and the question that you posed seems right on target. What we have found in counseling, educating and assisting consumers in making decisions on how to proceed when they're either facing a choice at the end of the month as what to pay (as they can no longer pay both their new mortgage payment and their other financial obligations) or are looking to pick up the pieces of their life after a foreclosure is that it is on a case by case scenario. Taking each individual's or family's circumstances into account along with the policy of each lender as to the flexibility that they have in resolving a delinquent account or how they treat a short sale or deed in lieu.

We have found that prior to a foreclosure, all of the solution oriented options are on the table. Utilizing a holistic approach and having a homeowner that is motivated to keep their home, we have found that there are alternatives and the lenders are cooperative so everyone is whole at the end of the day. If it must go in the direction of a short sale/deed in lieu/foreclosure it really depends on the policy of the lender as to how it is treated, forgiven, reported and the resulting blatancy of the derogatory.

We have experienced the full spectrum from a deed in lieu being totally forgiven and not reported to credit reporting agencies to a consumer being not only reported to credit bureau but getting a tax statement as well for the difference being treated as taxable income to the ex-homeowner as a result of the deed in lieu or the short sale and what was really owed to the bank. Either way, it is not favorable if it is reported as forgiven or settled. A foreclosure is of course a major derogatory but just like bankruptcy or anything else, it really comes down to successes and payment activity of the individual/family after the disaster and the policies and tolerance of the respective bank/lending institution.   

The key here has two locks -- one is the TYPE of action taken which will in turn relate to the credit ding.  The other is FOLLOW UP or post derogatory actions and history maintained by the borrower.

Comments are welcome and encouraged!!!!

Richard Zaretsky, Esq., RICHARD P. ZARETSKY P.A. ATTORNEYS AT LAW, 1655 PALM BEACH LAKES BLVD, SUITE 900, WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA 33401, PHONE 561 689 6660  RPZ99@FLORIDA-COUNSEL.COM - FLORIDA BAR BOARD CERTIFIED IN REAL ESTATE LAW - We assist Brokers and Sellers with Short Sales

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Thanks for this explanation.

There is, however, still a question of financial consequences. A client of mine told me he is not going to do the short sale, but rather let it go into foreclosure. When I asked him why, he explained that if he chooses short sale, and he did not have the property as primary residence, then he would get 1099, and IRS would tax him for the difference, and this money you have to pay, while with foreclosure you get the judgement and the collection, but if it can't be collected, he is not going to jail.

Is that really true?

 

Apr 03, 2008 09:44 AM
Wendy Smith
Wendy Smith Real Estate - Clearwater, FL
Real Estate Advisor
great question.  anyone?
Apr 11, 2008 02:26 PM
Richard Zaretsky
THE ZARETSKY LAW GROUP - Board Certified Real Estate Atty and AUTOMATED LAND TITLE COMPANY - West Palm Beach, FL
Florida Real Estate Attorney

You don't go to jail for not paying your mortgage!

You might get a judgment of defiency for the difference in the value of the property at the time of foreclosure sale and the judgment of foreclosure (amount due the bank plus attorney fees, interest, etc.).

In a short sale there is no judgment against the borrower.  Getting a 1099 is not a cure all.  Aren't taxpayers supposed to report ALL income from whatever source - and then determine if there is an exemption?  Not reporting income..... isn't that TAX EVASION? 

Isn't the penalty for tax evasion going to JAIL?

Richard Zaretsky, Esq., RICHARD P. ZARETSKY P.A. ATTORNEYS AT LAW, 1655 PALM BEACH LAKES BLVD, SUITE 900, WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA 33401, PHONE 561 689 6660  RPZ99@FLORIDA-COUNSEL.COM - FLORIDA BAR BOARD CERTIFIED IN REAL ESTATE LAW - We assist Brokers and Sellers with Short Sales

Apr 11, 2008 10:06 PM
Michael Wayne Jackson
Coldwell Banker - Novato, CA
Broker - Seniors Real Estate Specialist Novato
So either way there are tax consequences for a short sale, deed in lieu, or foreclosure?
Apr 12, 2008 05:35 AM
Richard Zaretsky
THE ZARETSKY LAW GROUP - Board Certified Real Estate Atty and AUTOMATED LAND TITLE COMPANY - West Palm Beach, FL
Florida Real Estate Attorney

That is my take on the situation, Mike.  If you don't report it you can be penalized based on the tax you would have had to pay -- with a statute of limitations of 6 years.  If you report it and take the non-recongnition application for insolvency or the mortgage debt relief act, then the IRS has a 3 year statute of limitations to say you were wrong.

Richard Zaretsky, Esq., RICHARD P. ZARETSKY P.A. ATTORNEYS AT LAW, 1655 PALM BEACH LAKES BLVD, SUITE 900, WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA 33401, PHONE 561 689 6660  RPZ99@FLORIDA-COUNSEL.COM - FLORIDA BAR BOARD CERTIFIED IN REAL ESTATE LAW - We assist Brokers and Sellers with Short Sales

Apr 15, 2008 09:32 AM
Anonymous
Daniel Poulos - Elite Lending

I have done lots of research, interviewed many people in the credit business and have seen more credit reports than I can count having spent 20 years in mortgage lending.

The major difference I have found is that the scoring model must treat the foreclosure as an UNPAID major derogatory while the short sale will show as a 0 balance.  There does seem to be conflicting information on whether the most recent models, including FICO 08 will give any consideration to the "settled for less than original amount" comment or merely score it as a paid collection account.  In addition, the foreclosure will add an unpaid judgment into public records.  This will trigger at least 5 risk factor codes not affected by a short sale.

Of course, how late an account goes is also a major factor and in most cases the foreclosure is going to take longer while the short sale will result is a successful sale.

Finally, this month FNMA and FHLMC have changed their lending guidelines for people who have had a foreclosure.  The waiting peroid for getting a new mortgage after a foreclosure has been extending from 2 years to 5.  The borrower then must put at least 10% down and have a credit score of 680.  The borrower must wait 7 years before he is able to do a cash-out refinance or by any second home or investment property.

There are no lending restrictions associated with a short sale other than the temporary credit damage caused by the late payments.

For information on free short sale and credit analysis classes www.MyEliteLending.com/education

May 29, 2008 02:53 AM
#6
Anonymous
Sonja

Hi Daniel,

You said that their is temporary damage for a short sale on your credit report. Is that the same ding as a Deed-In Lieu?  I am trying to decide if I should try to short sale my property in Florida or try the Deed in Lieu.

Sep 22, 2008 09:26 AM
#7
Anonymous
Dale Calomeni

RICHARD:

A student who attended my ‘Credit Scoring' class this past weekend advised I should read your analysis on Short Sales Affect On Credit Reports.  I have not seen this ‘blog' before, so I wanted to compliment you on it's accuracy, and good content.

My experience is exactly what you have already described.  What I have seen is the credit reporting agency noting a ‘past due account', will be restricted on how they describe the timelines involved for a ‘short sale'.  If the account is only ‘30 days past due' it may not be treated as a default like a ‘foreclosure'.  However, the greatest damage is done anytime the past due time line on a real estate account meets, or exceeds 90 days the ‘past due' account is then treated as a ‘virtual' foreclosure; regardless of the actual language used on the credit report.  So if a ‘past due' account is reporting ‘90 days late' and then a ‘settlement' is reported, it does not matter - the notations in summary will be viewed as a ‘foreclosure' in the true sense.   During the next two years, any qualified FHA underwriter will pick up on this issue, and make further inquiries and demand letters of explanation from the Borrower before approving a subsequent home loan.

 

That my two cents worth.....

 

Dale Calomeni

Branch Manager

PRIMARY RESIDENTIAL MORTGAGE, Inc.

1301 Macy Drive

Roswell, GA 30076

Direct:  770-597-6111

Office:  770-992-9748

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Feb 12, 2009 01:17 PM
#9
Daniel Poulos
The Elite Lending Team at Milestone Mortgage - Jupiter, FL
Paving the Way to Home Ownership for 30 Years

Sonya, the lender is not likely to consider accepting a deed-in-lieu if there is no equity in the property.  Unless that is the case a short sale is probably your most viable option if you can document hardship.

May 28, 2009 02:51 AM
Wendy Smith
Wendy Smith Real Estate - Clearwater, FL
Real Estate Advisor

Oh yes, lenders do consider deeds in lieu even though there is no equity.  absolutely positively - I'm in the middle of one right now.  WAMU, investor owned property.shadblow

May 28, 2009 07:00 AM