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Lender Won’t Close the FHA Condo Loan

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Mortgage and Lending with ReadySetLoan Condo Team LLC

Lender Won’t Close the FHA Condo Loan

We have discussed in a previous article that an FHA condo loan can still close even if the condominium’s FHA approval has expired.  That is provided, however, that the FHA case number was assigned to the loan prior to the expiration of the approval.  The lender must verify that the condominium was approved at the time the case number was assigned and sign a certification to that effect.

A unit owner called me yesterday who has his unit for sale and has located a buyer.  The expiration of the condominium’s FHA approval was last month.  The buyer is using an FHA loan and the purchase agreement was signed prior to the expiration of the FHA approval.  The unit owner was concerned that he would lose the buyer if the FHA recertification did not come very soon.

I asked him if the case number had been assigned.  All FHA loans are tracked by a case number, which is acquired by the originating lender or broker at the onset of the mortgage loan process.  Case numbers are assigned to the property, not to the borrower.

Case numbers are portable and transferable. They are transferable in that if an FHA buyer backs out of a loan and another steps in to purchase the same property, the case number is transferred to the new buyer.  It is portable meaning that it can move if the borrower decides to change lenders and still buy the same property.  This way, the borrower is not tied to any particular lender just because the case number has been assigned.

The unit owner’s concern about losing the buyer is apt.  However, there might already be a solution:

  • If the buyer’s case number was assigned prior to the expiration of the FHA approval, FHA will allow the loan to close.  We need to find out this information.

  • If it was assigned prior to the expiration, will the lender close the loan?  FHA will allow it, but will the lender do it?

  • If the lender does not want to close the loan until the condominium is recertified, find a lender who will.  I have heard of more than a half dozen FHA condo loans that closed AFTER the expiration of the condominium’s approval.

It is expected that the condominium will be recertified with FHA soon.  But if it isn’t, this unit owner may still be in luck if the case number was properly assigned even if the current lender is unwilling to close the loan.

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The Condominium Project Approval Team at ReadySetLoan is dedicated to helping condominium projects across the nation to obtain their approvals with FHA and the VA or become recertified with FHA.  We have assisted nearly 200 condominiums and we can help your association.

 

ReadySetLoan is an active member of the Connecticut and New England chapters of the Community Associations Institute (CAI) and is a frequent contributor to Common Interest Magazine as an expert in FHA/VA condominium project approvals.

 

Please contact us with any questions regarding FHA or VA condominium project approvals.  You can email me at askeric@readysetloan.com or call me at 404-433-4565. I will be happy to answer any of your questions.

 


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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Eric,  I just had one heck of a challenge getting a condo in contract because it was not on the FHA approved list.  Most buyers at that price point have FHA financing.  It's good to know that if the number is assigned before the approval expires ... there is still hope!

Oct 28, 2014 07:49 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Eric this is a very important guideline that is not very well known.  It would be silly for a Lender to not allow this loan to close, it complies with the rules and does not pose any additional risk.

Oct 28, 2014 10:38 AM
Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

Good morning Eric. Have one of these situations going on and we did have the case number in place. Great information that you shared with all of us, as usual.

Oct 28, 2014 06:57 PM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

Eric, It is little "nuggets" like this that make reading your blog mandatory.

Bill Roberts

Oct 29, 2014 01:34 AM
Raymond Denton
Homesmart / Evergreen Realty - Irvine, CA
Irvine Realtor®

I agree with George, Eric.  It'd be silly for the Lender to say No to a file like that ... I'm not aware of any Reverse Mortgage Lender with that overlay.

On the side, I recently learned I can originate an FHA loan in a condo complex that lost its FHA approval, if it's a HUD Home.  10 years originating FHA and I never knew that.  I attended a HUD Homes training session at the Orange County Association of Realtors this year, and learned it there.

Oct 29, 2014 01:44 AM
Shelly Hendry
Keller Williams Realty Cityside - Powder Springs, GA

Thanks for the information! I didn't know that the case number was transferable to a new buyer. Great tip!

Oct 29, 2014 01:50 AM
Jenna Dixon
Momentum Real Estate Group LLC - Marietta, GA
55 & Over | New Constructions | Horse Farms

Thanks for the great tip.  While it would be silly for the lender not to close, it also would not be surprising.

Oct 29, 2014 02:09 AM
Ginny Gorman
RI Real Estate Services ~ 401-529-7849~ RI Waterfront Real Estate - North Kingstown, RI
Homes for Sale in Southern RI and beyond

Eric, you are sharing great info for Realtors as well as clients on this FHA process and ensuring the condo gets bought!  thanks again

Oct 29, 2014 03:28 AM
Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner
Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395 - Mission Viejo, CA
Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395

I learned something new today. I didn't realize that the case number was portable. It makes sense, I did know that an FHA appraisal would outlast a buyer, so I can see how the case number would transfer as well. 

Oct 29, 2014 03:50 AM
Nick Vandekar, 610-203-4543
Realty ONE Group Advocates 484-237-2055 - Downingtown, PA
Selling the Main Line & Chester County

Good information to know.

Oct 29, 2014 05:49 AM
Adell Forbes (REALTOR®)
eXp Realty - Atlanta, GA
"Knowledge & Experience Working for You"

Eric- I was unaware of this until about a year ago; when a very thorough lender went above & beyond.

To this day I'm forever grateful. Many times there are solutions, but most people aren't interested in doing the extra leg-work...no matter how simple.

Oct 29, 2014 07:51 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

This transaction was SAVED by you!  Good job.  You knew information that was vital and you advised accordingly.

Oct 29, 2014 08:00 AM
Claude Labbe
RLAH / @properties - Washington, DC
Realty for Your Busy Life

Eric, the details....the details can kill a sale, and just as easily, save a sale.  "Just as easily" assuming the lender is down and dirty in the details.

Nice work.

Oct 29, 2014 01:55 PM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Eric Boucher - I will be surprised if the lender decides not to close when FHA does not have any objection once the case number is assigned.

Oct 29, 2014 02:37 PM
ReadySetLoan Team
ReadySetLoan Condo Team LLC - South Windsor, CT
Residential, Commercial & Condo Financing Experts

Thank you for your comment Kathleen Daniels .  I have been working diligently to spread this message!  Can you write an article about that?  I will post it to our site and spread it through social media :)

I agree, George.  It complies with FHA's rules but lenders don't always act logically.

Thank you for your comment Joe.  Hopefully, the lender doesn't give you a problem in closing it.

Thank you Bill.  That is a tremendous compliment.

Hi Raymond Denton - OCAR appears to be very actively promoting education about FHA and condos.  They posted a great video a couple of months back on the topic.  (FHA-FHA streamlined refinances are also allowed as are assumption transactions.)

I'm happy that the information was helpful, Shelly.

Hi Jenna - you're welcome.  It would be silly for the lender to not close it...but I wouldn't be surprised either.

Thank you Ginny.  I thought that many agents would appreciate this information.

Hi Karen - most people think that the case number is tied to the borrower and not the property.  I'm happy that you learned something new!

Thank you Nick and Trudy

Hi Adell - sounds like you found yourself a great lender!

 

Oct 30, 2014 08:34 PM
ReadySetLoan Team
ReadySetLoan Condo Team LLC - South Windsor, CT
Residential, Commercial & Condo Financing Experts

Thank you Carla.  I hope everything works out for the parties.

Thank you Claude.  It is sometimes the little details that make all the difference.

I would be surprised too, Praful...but not too surprised!

Oct 30, 2014 10:13 PM
Conrad Allen
Re/Max Professional Associates - Webster, MA
Webster, Ma, Realtor

Hi Eric.  So frustrating when this happens.  Thanks for the info.

Oct 31, 2014 09:36 PM
Grant Schneider
Performance Development Strategies - Armonk, NY
Your Coach Helping You Create Successful Outcomes

Eric - you are a wealth of knowledge in this area. Your knowledge could certainly help save a sale.

Nov 03, 2014 12:38 PM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Eric, I missed this one last year.  EXACTLY the kind of information that I needed today and appreciate your help answering my questions!

Oct 16, 2015 02:11 AM
ReadySetLoan Team

Super to hear that Bill.  If you have FHA/condo related questions, chances are you can find it here...but never hesitate to reach out to me!

Oct 19, 2015 02:36 AM
Liz and Bill Spear

And we did write an offer this morning, now let's see if we can come to terms!

Oct 19, 2015 02:37 AM