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I think you need to be a groupie… Grouping of conductors in MWBC

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Home Inspector with NCW Home Inspections, LLC

I think you need to be a groupie… Grouping of conductors in MWBC- Wenatchee Home Inspections

 

It is very common to find multiwire branch circuits (MWBC) in homes, especially newer homes.  A multiwire branch circuit is where you have two or more hot/line conductors (ungrounded conductors) sharing a common neutral (grounded conductor).

 

We can argue the merits of this type of wiring in residential, you find those who like them and those who do not.

 

But as home inspectors and electrical inspectors it often hard to tell if  the hot conductors (ungrounded conductors) have been properly landed on opposing buses.




What leg are they on?

 

This is important because if both hot conductors are on the same buss/leg the currents on the neutral conductor will add up versus canceling each other out which could possibly overload the neutral conductor.



We do not want a neutral looking like this




The Code requirement of grouping of conductors came into effect in the 2008 NEC code cycle to help address identification of conductors associated with a circuit.

From the 2014 NEC

210.4 Multiwire Branch Circuits

(D) Grouping.

The ungrounded and grounded circuit conductors of each multiwire branch circuit shall be grouped by cable ties or similar means in at least one location within the panelboard or other point of origination.

 

Exception: The requirement for grouping shall not apply if the circuit enters from a cable or raceway unique to the circuit that makes the grouping obvious or if the conductors are identified at their terminations with numbered wire markers corresponding to the appropriate circuit number.





In the 2014 NEC  there was an new addition to grouping requirements.

 

200.4 Neutral Conductors

 

(B) Multiple Circuits.

Where more than one neutral conductor associated with different circuits is in an enclosure, grounded circuit conductors of each circuit shall be identified or grouped to correspond with the ungrounded circuit conductor(s) by wire markers, cable ties, or similar means in at least one location within the enclosure.

Exception No. 1: The requirement for grouping or identifying shall not apply if the branch-circuit or feeder conductors enter from a cable or a raceway unique to the circuit that makes the grouping obvious.

 

Exception No. 2: The requirement for grouping or identifying shall not apply where branch-circuit conductors pass through a box or conduit body without a loop as described in 314.16(B)(1) or without a splice or termination.

 

This requirement expands on the requirements in section 210.4 that grounded conductors must be grouped with ungrounded conductors of the same circuit.

 

2014 NEC section 200.4 requires the neutrals (grounded conductor) to be grouped with the Hot/Line (ungrounded conductors) of the same circuit in any enclosure. This may be a wireway, gutter or junction box. NEC Section 210.4 applies only to panelboards or where the circuit originates.

 

Proper identification makes it easier for those evaluating these circuits.



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James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

While this is all well and good, it is a new requirement. My State does not follow 2014 NEC. The bigger issue, which I had on yesterdays inspection, is the use of tandem breakers. Honestly, requiring tying the wires together is a bit redundant and in my eyes unnecessary. I would believe the handle tie would be sufficient. 

Dec 04, 2014 10:46 PM
Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

Donald: Based on all this technical information, I am glad we have licensed home inspectors out in the field protecting our clients. This is way beyond any real estate agents' ability to comprehend and questions from clients should be deferred to the experts like you!

Dec 04, 2014 11:16 PM
Fred Hernden, CMI
Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area - Albuquerque, NM
Albuquerque area Master Inspector

Nothing brings a smile to my face faster than opening up an electrical panel and it is all neat, wires routed and tied neatly. ahhhhhhh....

Dec 04, 2014 11:18 PM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Jim, The handle ties does nothing if they are grouped improperly in the first place  Handle ties came in with the 2008 code cycle also.

 

Norm- Thank you.

 

Fred- Me too.

Dec 05, 2014 12:45 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Don, You lost me. Why would a wire tie have some bearing on the handle tie? 

Dec 05, 2014 01:09 AM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Jim, Sorry, was too early and read your comment wrong.

Dec 05, 2014 05:02 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

I know the feeling :)

Dec 05, 2014 08:48 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

That is a whole lot of work to go to only to avoid that pretty color on the neutral wire.

Almost the aurora borealis look!

I get really wired having to handle all this...  it ties me up.

Dec 05, 2014 09:43 PM
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

You have provided more very good reasons for home buyers to opt for a professional home inspection.

Dec 14, 2014 06:16 AM
Gayle Rich-Boxman Fishhawk Lake Real Estate
John L Scott Market Center - Birkenfeld, OR
"Your Local Expert!" 503-739-3843

Donald....I'm with NORM....huh?? You are a magnificent expert and I'm SO glad that I don't have to know all of this...whew, dodged that bullet. I sure do love reading the comments from the other inspectors...

Dec 20, 2014 07:16 AM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Jay, Thay sure can get pretty ; )

 

Roy, Thank you.

 

Gayle, This Home Inspector thing is a constant learning biz : ) Sometimes we need to be able to understand some unique principles to know if they are a potential issues.

Dec 20, 2014 08:04 AM