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There's More to a Lender Than His Rates

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Real Estate Agent with Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 0225085927

While thinking about what to write about today, I was struck by inspiration while reading Joe Petrowsky's post "Samuel Referred Me..."  in which he mentions giving prospective buyers a road map to follow in getting them credit worthy.  

It reminded me of one of my earliest days in real estate;  I had received a call from a guy who had worked with my husband and who had recently been at our house for dinner.  Upon hearing I was in real estate, he mentioned he really wanted to buy a house, but he didn't think he could be competitive at that time.

See, we were in the middle of a hot seller's market and he was low on cash.

He had excellent credit and a good job, but loads of debt.  And not for the reason you typically think - no, not for cars, clothes or good times. 

No, his mother had passed away unexpectedly, his father was unable to cope with her death at that time and had fallen into a deep depression, subsequently losing his job, leaving this young guy to help get his brother through graduate school.  

He had taken on the obligation without complaint - because that's just the kind of guy he was - but it had taken a toll on his cash reserves. 

The first lender I referred him to talked to him briefly, ran his credit and said, sorry, I cannot help you.  

The second lender, though, sat him down in her office and talked to him for an hour, getting the full picture of what had happened and how he was paying off his debt.  She set up a plan for him and every month, like clockwork, he faxed her the information she requested and six months later, she told me he was qualified to buy. 

The client and I were both thrilled at his good fortune and through a combination of creativity and good luck, he was able to prevail in a multiple offer situation and buy a condo.  

To this day, I have never forgotten nor referred business to the first lender because I felt he blew off not only my client but also me without any real explanation;  had he said, "hey, there are ways to get this guy qualified eventually, but I'm not the guy to do that," I would have totally understood. But, instead, he was rather dismissive and neither of us felt good about that.  

His exact words to me were, "I can't help this guy. Sorry." 

I went on to include the second lender on my referral list, though, and we enjoyed a solid relationship for many years.  

All because she was willing to spend an hour with an earnest young man who was trying to do the right thing for his family and his own future. 

There is more to getting a loan than just checking rates.   

Dan Derito
Success! Real Estate - Brockton, MA

That is just a good story about service that goes above and beyond. 

Dec 11, 2014 10:29 AM
Kimo Jarrett
Cyber Properties - Huntington Beach, CA
Pro Lifestyle Solutions

I wouldn't throw the first lender under the bus simply because he determined immediately that your buyer wasn't qualified at the time.

The other lender managed your buyer for 6 months  utilizing countless hours of his time to finally secure a loan but that was his choice. The first lender chose to dismiss your client but was professional enough to advise you that if you kept searching, another loan officer could probably secure the loan albeit 6 months later. 

Dec 11, 2014 12:22 PM
Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results.

Kimo Jarrett  Oh, I did not throw the first lender under the bus because this type of scenario did not fit his business model, no, rather, I never referred business to him because he was rude and dismissive...he did NOT suggest another lender could help, rather, he spent about 8 seconds on the phone saying he couldn't help, then hung up.  As I said in my post, if he HAD said he wasn't the right guy, and was not so rude about it, the outcome would have been different in my opinion of him.  

And, yes, while the 2nd lender did spend an inordinate amount of time with that client, she did not have to do with that with the many clients I subsequently referred to her, so I would say her investment of time in my one difficult client was reepaid many, many times over. 

Dec 11, 2014 12:43 PM
Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
The People You Know, Like and Trust!

Wow, you have that right Susan! I tto have found a diamond in the middle of some gemstones.

Dec 11, 2014 01:28 PM
Sharon Parisi
United Real Estate Dallas - Dallas, TX
Dallas Homes

Susan Haughton You chose a great title and the words speak volumes.  I have several lenders who will go the extra mile for clients.

Dec 11, 2014 02:47 PM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Susan

That is a wonderful story, and a great testimonial to a lender who cared about the person sitting across from them, and not just filling their pocket as quickly as possible.

Jeff

Dec 11, 2014 02:59 PM
Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results.

Thanks to everyone for all of their comments!!!  I'm slowly making my way to each of your posts to leave reciprocal comments...I really appreciate your support.

Dec 11, 2014 10:32 PM
John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

Susan Haughton Wow! Great post. I hope you cc'd that first lender this post. I've dealt with so called professionals like that over the years and it really pis___es me off royally. 

Dec 12, 2014 04:21 AM
June Piper-Brandon
Coldwell Banker Realty - Columbia, MD
Creating Generational Wealth Through Homeownership

Susan, this is a fabulous story.  I almost missed it if it hadn't been reblogged.  The first lender was an order taker, the second was a talented chef able to take the ingredients and make something out of them!!

Dec 12, 2014 04:28 AM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Hi Susan,

You are so right about that! I love this story..it happens and June Piper-Brandon is right..the first lender was an order taker and the second one was a problem solver!

Dec 12, 2014 06:07 AM
Ginger Harper
Coldwell Banker Sea Coast Advantage~ Ginger Harper Real Estate Team - Southport, NC
Your Southport~Oak Island Agent~Brunswick County!

Oh...so true. 

You have to be able to trust the person that you are working with.

 

Dec 12, 2014 10:57 PM
Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

Yes, there certainly is more to a lender than their rates.  They need to be able to deliver.  I use to cringe when a buyer would come in and say they found the lowest interest rates from so-in-so, who advertised them in the local paper.  I knew who they were talking about, and I knew they wouldn't close on those rates.

Dec 13, 2014 12:05 AM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Great story & the first lender is the 'churn & burn' type - if they aren't going to buy this minute, they get blown off.  Glad that you have a good working relationship now with lender #2 - the patient one.

Dec 14, 2014 04:35 AM
Dagny Eason
Dagny's Real Estate - Wilton, CT
Fairfield County CT, CDPE Homes For Sale and Condo

Susan Haughton what a fabulous story, and featured for good reason!    

Dec 17, 2014 08:18 PM
Barbara-Jo Roberts Berberi, MA, PSA, TRC - Greater Clearwater Florida Residential Real Estate Professional
Charles Rutenberg Realty - Clearwater, FL
Palm Harbor, Dunedin, Clearwater, Safety Harbor

This is indeed a great story, Susan and I agree with Dagny, great feature!

Dec 17, 2014 09:23 PM
Anonymous
Ruth Nelson Linn

Susan, YOU SUMMED IT WELL. THERE IS A LOT MORE THAN CHECKING RATES. There are a few "new breed" loan originators who do not rely upon the low hanging fruit, but they are few and far between. (I am one of them. I love the industry, but I hated the "single transaction" aspect of it, even with lots of referrals.) My worry is that the client you describe will listen to just ONE lender, who may represent a bank who does not have the product that includes the low credit allowance or whatever the client needs. Being turned away for that reason usually takes that borrower out of the market, often unnecessarily or delays them way too much. For those who are hitting against the regulations, for whatever reason, need a little guidance and companionship and some one who knows how to structure a loan properly. I must accomplish this over the phone and it is a great challenge. My management (we are a multi-state wholesale brokerage and paid BY THE LENDER, not the borrower-so not only do I not take just the low hanging fruit, I work for free [at least to your client]. In addition, my rates carry credit to the client to offset closing costs, so yes, there is much, much more to it than rate!) gives me all sorts of resources to help distressed borrowers to catch up. Then it takes my client management skills to stay with them for the months or year that it takes to repair or to save or whatever.I find it rewarding, especially when my realtor does not ship me ONLY the distressed borrowers! And as for relationships, I think that it would serve realtors well to connect with a broker who deals with all of the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, FHA, VA and USDA regulations AND OPTIONS for their clients and not just the person they can talk to in person to get a loan closed. Brokers are much more flexible and have more resources for your clients. Yes, it seems difficult to do over the phone. Yes, we are very tough on compliance due to secondary market concerns. Yes, our regulations change, on average, every 4 days! But changing the financial life of another person for the good even if it takes a few hours more is great. And it is not a single transaction then, it is a lifetime of friendship. Combine that with a love of helping people and you have your combination of success, for all involved!

Dec 23, 2014 01:18 AM
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Suzie DeYoung
Fridrich & Clark Realty, LLC - Brentwood, TN

Great post, Susan!  As I have progressed in my career I have learned there is definitely a difference in lenders. 

Dec 25, 2014 06:59 AM
Winston Heverly
Coldwell Banker Access Realty - South Macon, GA
GRI, ABR, SFR, CDPE, CIAS, PA

I think Active Rain has done a great job in bringing out the best potential in all of their members blogs like this one.

Mar 23, 2015 08:09 AM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

Hi Susan, I like this post and it is so relevant. I am reblogging it so others can see it.

Jan 08, 2016 06:38 AM
Susan Haughton

Thanks, Debbie Reynolds !  I'm flattered!

Jan 08, 2016 06:41 AM
Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner
Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395 - Mission Viejo, CA
Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395

That's a great story about a lender who really took the time to listen and care. 

Jan 08, 2016 08:12 AM