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January 8th, 2015 San Diego Photo Journal - That Old Rugged Cross

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That Old Rugged Cross

The Cross on the Hill is in the news again. For over two decades this cross has been in dispute in conversations and courts about it's conflict between church and state. 

Mount Soledad Cross

The first cross was erected in 1913 atop Mount Soledad. It was all wood and was stolen in 1923. Later that year it was replaced. The second cross was erected in 1934 made of stucco over wood and it lasted ( while being repaired twice from wind damage) until the current cross was established there in 1954.

In 1987, a suit was filled against the city of San Diego claiming that the cross was unconstitutional. Court case after court case has found that the cross must be removed. The defenders have found ways to keep it by turning the whole top of the mount and cross into a War Memorial. Still the courts say, the cross is unconstitutional as a government endorsement of religion. 

In December of 2014, the US Congress approved a sale transferring the land it is on to private ownership. This has been tried before and opponents of the transfer say the transfer to private ownership will never pass legal muster. This poor Old Rugged Cross has been in more courts than criminals leading a life time of crime.

For 25 years this battle has gone on ad nauseum. If you think that this cross should stay, you would be in the majority. The war memorial is really beautiful and serves to remember  those that have given their lives to preserve the freedoms that the nay sayers use to their benefit to try and rip this monument from the history of San Diego.

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Comments(22)

Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

William I hope the Cross stays and all those who fight against it need to find real purpose and goals in life, just sayin, Endre

Jan 08, 2015 02:32 PM
Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher

For 1913, that thing is in pristine condition -- my goodness! Very nice looking and inspiring in the best sense of the word!

Jan 08, 2015 02:46 PM
Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher

I agree with you, Endre Barath, Jr. that it's not forcing anyone to believe any sort of thing really. There are worse things!

Jan 08, 2015 02:48 PM
William Johnson
Retired - La Jolla, CA
Retired

Hi Laura, This is actually the 3rd cross now made from cast concrete. But you are sure right that a non moving object can't do anything to anyone. The atheists just can't stand seeing however and want it down. I can only hope that it remains as a memorial and also a historical monument. 

Jan 08, 2015 03:53 PM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good morning William,

It's sad that part of part of your state's history is trying to be destroyed by a minority.

Jan 08, 2015 05:05 PM
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

William, if some who fight against it would turn their efforts to something that counted, the world would be a better place! Enjoy your day!

Jan 08, 2015 06:42 PM
Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

The story of the cross on Mount Soledad certainly has had a history of controversy.  I think the thing that bothers me most about those who would spend so much time opposing it, is there are so many larger fish to fry in the scheme of this country's problems.    I also have no problem with nativity scenes on the lawn of the California State Capitol.  Jewish symbols are also allowed there during Hanukkah.  

As for the city turning the ground into a war memorial.  It should be remembered that not only Christians have fought in our wars.  There have been Jews, Islamic, Hindus, and Native Americans with their own persuasion. There's likely even been a Pagan or two.  I have no problem with any of these symbols.  Why not be inclusive, rather than exclusive!

Jan 08, 2015 09:58 PM
John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque Homes Realty - Albuquerque, NM
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Good morning William. 

Thanks for sharing the story and the photos of The Cross on the Hill.  We have made many U Turns to get a good photo of a cross.  Glad you shared.

Jan 08, 2015 10:47 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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It is like being politically correct in hindsight. But isn't it embellishing history? Reading our history through today's glasses? Isn't it part of architecture?

I am for this Cross to stay.

And I am not even a Christian. I believe Atheists are not really Christians, aren't they? :)

Jan 09, 2015 01:29 AM
Robert Vegas Bob Swetz
Las Vegas, NV

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Jan 09, 2015 02:16 AM
Patricia Feager, MBA, CRS, GRI,MRP
DFW FINE PROPERTIES - Flower Mound, TX
Selling Homes Changing Lives

This is so sad it's pathetic. I'm with the majority. Thank you for having the courage to express your opinions which I wholeheartly support.

Jan 09, 2015 03:33 AM
Nancy Laswick
United Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
Your REALTOR® For The Valley Of The Sun

I wonder what George Bennard would say about such a controversy, William Johnson?  Perhaps his response might come from the lyrics of one of his most popular hymms.

"Oh, that old rugged cross, so despised by the world,
Has a wondrous attraction for me;"

Jan 09, 2015 03:49 AM
David Shamansky
US Mortgages - David Shamansky - Highlands Ranch, CO
Creative, Aggressive & 560 FICO - OK, Colorado Mtg

I am so sick of these unconstituional BS claims.

if you dont like this country, what we were founded on and what we believe in then go to another one or simply shut the hell up already!

Jan 09, 2015 08:51 AM
William Johnson
Retired - La Jolla, CA
Retired

Hi David, From your lips to God's ears.

Hi Nancy, Brilliant and and Thank You.

Hi Patricia, When I read the Constitution, I just can't figure out how the courts come to this conclusion. 

Robert, Thank You so much. I am always honored by your selection.

Hi Jon, Yu are so right. Thanks for your gracious support.

Hi John, It is that thanks you. Happy New BTW

Jan 09, 2015 09:54 AM
William Johnson
Retired - La Jolla, CA
Retired

Hi Myrl, This was once the Easter Cross where sunrise services were held. When there was opposition the churches backed off and that is when it was turned into a war memorial. One thing you can't see in the photo are the photo tiles of each of those that have given their lives. These photo tiles completly surround the base. There is also a large flag besides the crosss. It is really beautiful site and I will add a photo of the whole top of hill. This was the only photo I had that didn't have lots of people in it and I didn't want to create an even bigger problem with people's faces so I had to crop off the bottom. 

Jan 09, 2015 10:00 AM
William Johnson
Retired - La Jolla, CA
Retired

Hi Wayne, I couldn't agree more with your sentiments.

Hi Dorie, It is more about San Diego's history but you are so right that nay sayers want to reshape history as if they have a right to it.

Jan 09, 2015 10:03 AM
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

William, I am certainly in the majority who think this cross should stay. I am so tired of people trying to remove important symbols of our history.

Jan 09, 2015 09:42 PM
Tom Braatz Waukesha County Real Estate 262-377-1459
Coldwell Banker - Oconomowoc, WI
Waukesha County Realtor Real Estate agent. SOLD!

William Johnson

As simple as this picture is it really is a very meaningful and powerful shot

Jan 12, 2015 07:50 AM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

William, the Cross on the Hill is beautiful.  It must take a lot of energy to be an atheist. 

Jan 17, 2015 08:24 AM
Bruce Walter
Keller Williams Realty Lafayette/West Lafayette, Indiana - West Lafayette, IN

William, I hope the cross can stay.  It is interesting that every election cycle in our county about 60% of the polling places are IN CHURCHES.  Even though the county has refused religious displays on our county courthouse I find it interesting that it is OK for the county voters to cast their ballots in churches. 

Mar 21, 2015 11:46 AM