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Parol Patrol-Get It In Writing!

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with St.Cloud Homes

  The first thing you learn in Real Estate school is If it is isn't in "writing, it is not enforcable" we all know that at least here in Florida.  Parol contracts  are verbal and cannot be enforced. A gentleman calls to say he has an ownership interest in some properties. Really?                    Public records do not support his claim. Due diligence done, there is no record of this person staking claim on the property listed.  There was no private mortgage, no other names on the deed, no indication his claim was valid. When tackfully asked if a document exists between the parties..the caller reluctantly states it was a "gentlemen's agreement based on a verbal commitment and a handshake." (Wanna buy a bridge in  Brooklyn?) 

Sarcasm aside, this person was of the opinion he was entitled to fifty percent ownership in someone else's property based on nothing more than a handshake agreement!  Since no court in the world would support a "he said so" arguement, taking a calm approach to this persons claim was the best course of action. But wait there more! As "implied partial owner" were you aware the mortagage payments are behind? "What! NO!" he exclaimed.

 It appears he had a business relationship with the person who owns the house. The arrangment went sour and he was looking to recoup something...anything... he could from the real owner of the property. Here is the catch. The property was mortgaged so heavily, it was upside down.  Being the good little Realtor that I am, I pointed out to this poor man, that had he been an actual owner of record, he could also be liable for the unpaid mortgage payments. In addition, if the Real Estate Taxes had not been paid, the mortgage would become subordinate to the pimary mortgage, and even if sold at a tax auction on the court house steps, that mortgage may have to still be paid as well, further compounding the ability to collect on his unrecorded debt.

Something his attorney failed to mention. So instead of a lawsuit being filed, I got a sincere Thank you for explaining how the law works pertaining to getting it in writing! When dealing with foreign investors they do not understand with clarity how important it is that contracts between parties be in writing to be enforceable.

A little empathy goes a long way-acknowledge the persons frustration. Validate their feelings, and explain the law simply and clearly. It resolved without having to go to court. It wasn't such a bad day afterall...

 

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St.Cloud Homes

Allison Stewart Broker, SFR, CDPE 

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Comments (11)

Jeff Turner
RealSatisfied - Santa Clarita, CA
Allison, allow me to point out what seems obvious to me... no wiki will ever be able to do what you just did. Ever!
Feb 15, 2007 03:42 PM
Allison Stewart
St.Cloud Homes - Saint Cloud, FL
St. Cloud Fl Realtor, Osceola County Real Estate 407-616-9904
Jeff- what is a wiki?
Feb 15, 2007 09:48 PM
Terry Lynch
LAR Notary and Closing Services - Saint Clair Shores, MI

Actually even if he were the owner of the property he would not be liable for the mortgage payments unless he had signed the note that the mortgage actually secured.

The mortgage is only the security instrument for the note(which isn't usually recorded). It creates a lien on the property but doesn't actually create the debt.

I don't know about Florida, but here in Michigan you can't place a lien on real property without the signature of all the owners.

Feb 17, 2007 02:57 AM
Allison Stewart
St.Cloud Homes - Saint Cloud, FL
St. Cloud Fl Realtor, Osceola County Real Estate 407-616-9904

Hi Terry

A parol (verbal) contract (agreement) is not enforceable.  I agree in theory with what you are saying. However, a tax lien will take priority over a recorded mortgage. (For that no signature is required) In Florida if Property taxes have notbeen paid by January 1st, the lien is attached to the property automatically. Ifnot paid the property can then be auctioned on the court house steps following notice for three weeks in the newspaper.  We have something here called the Right of Redemption  which allows the debtor to bring the taxes owed up to date before the property is sold at tax auction.

Non the less, a verbal claim of ownership without a notorized document to back it up is worthless.

Feb 17, 2007 11:17 PM
LLoyd Nichols
Premier Florida Realty of SWFL - Fort Myers, FL
Southwest Florida Homes By The Sea

Good one Allison. In Florida it could be tricky as the lender is not required by law to notify the borrower before initiating the foreclosure process.It takes about 5 months in Florida for the process to take place. That is when the Lis Pendes takes place, or a formal pending law suit recorded by the lender....if the borrower does not respond within a certain amount of time to the court action that is when it gets nasty and the borrower is in default and next goes the court ruling.The borrower can stop the ruling by paying the debt. That takes about 30-45 days before starting in Action....

what I was wondering is if any of you have been approached by potential buyers looking for these foreclosure deals ?

anyway thanks for the blog.A binding contract has to be in writing. You are so right, we have to inform our clients and not be affraid to advise for legal representation if need be.

Feb 18, 2007 12:39 AM
Doug Beaver
Century 21 Olde Tyme - Corona, CA
Corona Norco Eastvale Riverside Homes
Lloyd, I agree but here in California You have to be careful giving legal advice as one could lose one's license doing so. It does not happen but I had a little scare a short time ago just giving advice. So be careful.
Feb 19, 2007 05:15 AM
Cheryl Willis
RE/MAX Solutions- OZARK MISSOURI - Mount Vernon, MO
MO Broker - Mt Vernon, Monett, Aurora, Barry & Law
good point Doug- so many times we have just enough info to be dangerous and 'think' we are helping.   we need to make sure we aren't trying to wear too many hats by offering legal advise-  when in doubt check with your office broker before putting your lisc on the line-  cheryl
Feb 19, 2007 06:34 AM
Allison Stewart
St.Cloud Homes - Saint Cloud, FL
St. Cloud Fl Realtor, Osceola County Real Estate 407-616-9904
We are not attorneys for sure!  I have however, put my client in contct with a Real Estate Attorney. It is always good to have one of theose in your roladex. Time will tell most definitely, as for theothers "claim" he has nothing enforceable according our Real Estate Attorney. It was just an interesting FYI in todays times some people will try anything!
Feb 19, 2007 07:02 AM
Allison Stewart
St.Cloud Homes - Saint Cloud, FL
St. Cloud Fl Realtor, Osceola County Real Estate 407-616-9904
Lloyd Wow that is interesting...Thank you do much for adding that to this discussion!
Feb 20, 2007 11:40 PM
Bill Patterson
Kelly, Realtors - Waco, TX

A wiki (IPA: [ˈwɪ.kiː] <WICK-ee> or [ˈwiː.kiː] <WEE-kee>[1]) is a website that allows the visitors themselves to easily add, remove, and otherwise edit and change available content, typically without the need for registration. This ease of interaction and operation makes a wiki an effective tool for mass collaborative authoring.

 

 

Feb 21, 2007 04:31 AM
Real Estate Guy in Madison, Wisconsin
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Real Estate Guy

Love your photo too!

Guy

Mar 02, 2007 02:52 PM