Little Mistake, Big Problem

Warning, unsafe workmanship on display.

In some cases, getting something "close" to right will probably get you by for quite some time. There are other times when "close" just does not cut it. No truck driver thinks "close" is good enough if his or her semi whacks an overpass.

 

The photo below is kind of like that. A drain on a hot water heater temperature pressure relief valve (TPR) must be routed down.

To the uninformed, this one is routed down. Right? Heck yes, it does go down over at the right side. The problem is there is also a small section that first goes up. So, it is routed up before it is routed down. That is absolutely wrong and makes the whole installation unsafe. We will hope that it does not turn out to be, but we will call it, a fatal flaw.

Small discharges of water will come out of this valve -- it is seldom the steam-filled gushing geyser that people anticipate. These small discharges are trapped, by gravity, against the valve. Over time, that can lead to deterioration of the valve and then it is no longer safe.

Believe me, if it quits working altogether, you might get to see something less like a geyser and more like a bomb. Sometimes, close is just not good enough!

Steven L. Smith

Bellingham WA Home Inspections

  

 

14 Comments on Little Mistake, Big Problem

This is great advice Steve. Thanks for that, I am checking my WH right now.

Cheers,

Andreas

04/09/2008 04:11 PM by Andreas Wienke (Keller Williams)


That's interesting and easy enough for me to understand and check when I look at a water heater.  Thanks for the tip.

04/09/2008 04:12 PM by Barbara S. Duncan ABR, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage)


This is great advice! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.

04/09/2008 04:15 PM by Carlie Pardue (Placer Title Company)


water heaterWell, I thought I could tell but it is not that easy.  Which one is the dad-gummed pop-off valve?  Discovered today in REO property.....is it safe?

 

04/09/2008 04:28 PM by Barbara S. Duncan ABR, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage)


Barbara,

Got some issues there. Let me enlarge it and get back at ya.

04/09/2008 04:55 PM by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection)


Barbara,

The TPR drain is that long guy to the left. You need a plumber, or let an inspector call it. Hopefully nothing bad will happen in the meantime.

For one thing, it in fact does go up and it cannot go up for even a tiny bit. Note the up curve at the paper gummed label on the left. Also, it cannot be flex tubing, anyway. Big no, no! Why? Because someone can mess it up even if it went down or level to begin with. Even if it was done right, someone shoving a broom in a closet could change it. Also, looks to me like you need to get the 240V wires down under their cover. The exposed wire nuts and tape, plus the cable run itself, are not giving me confidence. I say, call the plumber. With luck he or she can use the existing wiring, but don't bet the farm on it.

04/09/2008 05:01 PM by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection)


Bob,

You need to make sure that IS on the water heater. Sometimes people put plugs in, and that is bad berries. This is a major safety device on gas and electric tanks.

04/09/2008 05:06 PM by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection)


Barbara----listen to everything Steve said (I can't believe I just said that):)

04/10/2008 01:51 AM by Charles Buell, Seattle, WA, Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com)


Steven, thanks for the analysis.  This is typical of REO homes where someone has probably tried to do the work themselves.  We'll try to sell this house as it is.  You should see the rest of it!  And to think that Mr. Buell agreed with you!! 

04/10/2008 08:32 AM by Barbara S. Duncan ABR, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage)


Barbara,

People think the TPR drain can be routed any which way, more like the incoming pressurized cold water supply -- and they are wrong. Charlie B was so blinded by my brilliance that he did not know what else to say. No, actually, this is exactly what an inspector sees several times a month.

04/10/2008 08:56 AM by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection)


So the pop-off valve is the one with the little lever.  I checked my two personal water heaters.  The electric one has it coming from the top and the gas one has it coming from the side.  BUT neither of them go UP and then DOWN so I guess we're okay. 

You guys give such good advice in small doses.  I can just see the two of you combining with a book except you'd argue over who is the most brilliant!  : )

04/10/2008 09:46 AM by Barbara S. Duncan ABR, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage)


Barbara,

What are you doing with two. You in Hearst Castle or something.

04/10/2008 11:44 AM by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection)


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