Well let me say that another notch in the belt is just fine (except for when there are no notches left and you have to just buy a bigger belt).  But that's not what this post is about.  It appears that some people treat trusses just like they do a belt... just add a notch.

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It looks like the HVAC contractor that installed this began to notch the truss (inside the red box) to fit the furnace in the attic.  Maybe he realized what he was doing and then stopped?  Regardless, a truss cannot be modified without a Professional Engineer's approval.  Of course with me coming in years after the house was built, who knows if it was ever approved by a Professional Engineer?  Maybe the original home owner might know?  But of course this was a bank repo and the seller was not around anymore.

And in case I made a presumption that you are familiar with trusses, let me explain.  A truss is the major support for the roof, therefore it's a serious issue.

On a side note, it's another reason to make sure the home inspector you hire will enter attics (when possible).

I hope this gives you a little more information about a home inspection and its value.  Be safe out there.

 

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18 Comments on Another Notch in the Belt

Wow, hopefully that HVAC guy isn't responsible for any roofs caving in!

04/14/2008 11:35 PM by Christopher Watters, Realtor - Greater Austin Texas Area (Texas Ranch & Home Realty)


Looks like the Boss came up and put a stop to the carpentry work.

04/15/2008 09:24 AM by Keith Perry - REALTORĀ® -West Metro Atlanta (Coldwell Banker)


Christopher, I hope not.

Tammy, I guess it's better to fall through the floor than to have the roof fall in on you  :-)

Bobby, I'm guessing the builder but I don't know for sure.

Charles, when I was up there it didn't even look like the notching was necessary to get the unit in.  Just a lazy guy I suppose.

Steve, thanks for stopping by.

Keith & Robin, that's what I think.

04/15/2008 09:49 AM by Joseph Lang - Southern California Home Inspector (Pillar To Post Professional Home Inspection)


You are definitely right Joseph, buyers should always make sure that their inspector will go in the attic and of course in the crawl space as well, when they are accessible.

Also you've touched on a great point here regarding foreclosed properties. The bank never lived there and so has nothing to disclose to the buyers which just makes the need for a good home inspection that much greater.

04/15/2008 04:53 PM by John LaRocca


Joseph, it is all part of the "get a bigger hammer" approach to building.

04/15/2008 11:16 PM by Charles Buell, Seattle, WA, Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com)


Looks like a notch job to me.  What a shame people can't own up to the problems they cause others.

04/16/2008 08:31 AM by Gene Allen Realtor Hampton Roads Real Estate (Resh Realty Group)


John, thanks for the comment.

Charles, I like that term.

Gene, they should take DNA evidence and track down the worker  :-)

04/16/2008 09:21 AM by Joseph Lang - Southern California Home Inspector (Pillar To Post Professional Home Inspection)


Plumbers are also notorious for notching beams, joists, and the like.  It amazes me what people will do to  a structure instead of finding the proper means to install something.

04/16/2008 06:26 PM by JenRan Realty, LLC


Yikes!!!  Obviously one never wants to see a truss compromised, but how much would be acceptable?  That only seems like a little amount, and much more would be bad, but is a little bit acceptable?

04/16/2008 09:44 PM by Derek Bauer, Associate Broker - Door To Dreams Team www.DoorToDreams.com (Real Estate One, Inc.)


Jennifer, I agree.

Derek, I actually took the class "Statics" in college.  That's where you evaluate static (non-moving) loads.  A truss distributes the weight of the load throughout the truss system, therefore every component is going to carry some load.  That's why only an engineer can okay a modification to a truss (no matter how small).  I wouldn't take a chance with something like that.

04/17/2008 01:25 AM by Joseph Lang - Southern California Home Inspector (Pillar To Post Professional Home Inspection)


Wow Joseph.  It is amazing what some people do.

04/17/2008 06:05 PM by Richard Ives (RE/MAX AT HOME)


Joseph - very interesting!  I guess based on that theory, even a hairline change can be HUGE.  Good to know ... thanks.

04/19/2008 06:44 PM by Derek Bauer, Associate Broker - Door To Dreams Team www.DoorToDreams.com (Real Estate One, Inc.)


Derek, it really depends. Remember, wood isn't perfect and may have slight cracks from drying out, etc.  However, notching is a totally different issue.

04/21/2008 11:49 AM by Joseph Lang - Southern California Home Inspector (Pillar To Post Professional Home Inspection)


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