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Do You Censor?

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Real Estate Agent with Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified #1 in Forest Land Mgmt

 Do You Censor?

  A while ago I was censored, I think for the first time but who knows for sure.

  I did not think that I said anything negative but she thought that I did so she went to the harsh step of deleting my comment and unsubscribed from my blog.

  I hated to lose this person as a friend since I do enjoy her blogs and friendship, so I gave her a call and apologized for offending her.  Everything seemed to be fine except that the phone connection was rather poor.  I asked her to give me a call when she got back to an area with good phone coverage, but a week later still no call.  I hope that it is just an oversight and we can resume our friendship soon.

  This is not the first time that I have noticed censorship in the rain.

  The first was in a rather controversial post, I disagreed with the blogger but remained silent and was happy when somebody finally called the blogger on this one sided blog, since the first 100 comments or so seemed to be patting her on the back.  Then one of the comments came through in my email that was clearly in the other side of the issue, finally.  But before I could go back to the blog, the comment was gone, then it was back again, and then it was gone.

  So I left a comment and asked why this comment kept disappearing, my comment did not get deleted but I did get a very polite private email from the blogger and the commenter.  the blogger said she did not want any dissention in her blog and the commenter said she understood and probably should not have been so "snarky".

  The next time that I noticed this was when a seemingly neutral comment kept showing up in my email at least a half dozen times, so I clicked on the link to the blog post to see if AR was acting up or something.  I was surprised to not see half dozen copies of this comment in the comments section, but rather there were zero comments from this commenter.

  So I wrote a comment letting the blogger know that there may be a problem since this comment kept showing up in my email but not in her blog.

  This time I did not suspect censorship until I got a nice call from the blogger filling me in on a fued of some sort going on between the two ar members.  I was very saddened by this since I had no idea that this kind of thing happened here.

  I am not a big fan of censorship, somehow I along with many Americans have been conditioned to think that we should not censor other people's thoughts so when somebody strongly, I mean very strongly criticized me in a later blog (http://activerain.com/blogsview/4193576/i-should-have-done-more- ) I just let it ride thinking that they were just making a fool of themselves the more they wrote.

  This happened in a post that I wrote last fall about a homeless person stealing my favorite sleeping bag off of my clothesline and letting her keep it.

  Shortly after writing this post I went into the hospital and did not get a chance to read any of the comments until the next night when my wife brought my laptop to the hospital.

  It was a pleasant surprise to see that the post was featured and had quite a few comments including several from a fellow who thought that I was a fool for letting someone take my stuff (a $100 sleeping bag is nothing compared to what renters steal on a regular basis, but that is another story).

  I was amused not only by this fellow showing himself for the kind of person that he was but I was also entertained by the many people who went after him for being a little harsh.

  I could not imagine why anyone would want to censor something like this, I thought it was really cool the way that my friends in the rain expressed themselves and how they cared about the people around them.

  So I guess the point that I am getting at is how do you feel about censorship?  To me it seems kind of pointless to spend this much time communicating with each other here and in other social media sites if we are opposed to ever really hearing how others feel and afraid that if we let them know how we feel that they will just delete us.

  Personally I would rather hear a comment that smarts a little than not hear their displeasure and have them just stop reading or commenting without ever allowing us to discuss the issue.

Communication is good, even when it gives us a few bruises.

 

 

 

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  •   Censorship Causes Blindness  Andréia Bohner https://www.flickr.com/photos/98943387@N00/42897463
  • My Censorship by Marco Bernardini https://www.flickr.com/photos/29635150@N00/1405592515
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Comments (16)

Debra Leisek
Bay Realty,Inc Homer Alaska - Homer, AK

communication should be open and ongoing... free exchange of ideas and thoughts without adverse judgement....  it really should be ok to agree to disagree and just let it be...  thanks for the thoughtful post!

Apr 08, 2015 05:29 PM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Hi Bob --  In most cases, I typically self-censor because I know I have a snarky side that can be mis-understood.   I'm very aware this is a public forum(even when labeled members only) so I try to remain mindful of that but I'm sure there have been comments I have made that have found their way to the virtual circular file.  I guess I don't pay much attention to it.  

 

 

Apr 08, 2015 05:39 PM
Shuchi Agrawal
Kanam Realty Group/Kanam Commercial - Flower Mound, TX
Serving Dallas / Ft. Worth

Great post!  I agree, if we put ourselves out there, we shouldn't be opposed to hearing points of view different than ours.  Agreeing to disagree is fine.  However, I do feel that there are some things that are inappropriate and people shouldn't go overboard making obscene comments.  

Apr 08, 2015 05:43 PM
TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc.
Complete Home Inspections, Inc. - Brentwood, TN
Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029

 Good morning Bob. I have to agree with Deborah that communication should be open and free exchange of ideas on both sides. I do have to agree with the others -  very thoughtful post.

Apr 08, 2015 06:43 PM
Jill Murty, Realtor - Orange County, CA
Movoto - Laguna Niguel, CA

Differing opinions and spirited discussions can be fun and enlightening.  When someone writes something that comes across as offensive or nasty, people can respond or ignore it.  In nearly all cases, deleting is an error.

On a side note Michael Jacobs, snarky is one of my favorite words.  I can and do resemble that word.  A good, lightheated dose of snark can sometimes be misinterpreted, especially in writing. 

Apr 08, 2015 07:25 PM
Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

Now I know why we are on Active Rain. With the emphasis on active. Roy's post today about manners seems particularly apt. Debate should not degenerate into rudeness and people should not delete comments they don't lik

Apr 08, 2015 08:44 PM
Roger D. Mucci
Shaken...with a Twist 216.633.2092 - Euclid, OH
Lets shake things up at your home today!

I just say what's on my mind and an honest.  I don't go out of my way to be nasty or rude, but if I don't agree, I don't agree.   If someone wants to delete a comment or unsubscribe from my blog because of it, it's their choice.  We can't always please everyone.

Apr 08, 2015 10:36 PM
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Thanks for sharing this story. I have probably been censored as well without even knowing it.

I have tried to be careful with comments when I do not agree with a blog or some of the comments. 

Apr 08, 2015 11:39 PM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

Bob, As a general rule I don't delete any comments. I do disagree from time to time, but that is the purpose of a controversial post. Get the conversation going. If my opinion can't withstand the comments of others, then maybe something is wrong with my opinion. On the other-hand maybe there is something wrong with their opinion.

I did have one of my comments deleted by someone I thought of as a friend. But you know what. A friend wouldn't have done that, so I completely stopped reading this person's posts.

Bill Roberts

BTW I "belong" to a private group on FB that doesn't tolerate any opposing views. It is very frustrating. I don't participate as much now as I did in the beginning. Their loss, not mine.

Apr 09, 2015 12:17 AM
Nicole Doty - Gilbert Real Estate Expert
Zion Realty - Gilbert, AZ
Broker/Owner of Zion Realty ZionRealtyAZ.com

I have no idea if I've ever been censored or not but I have deleted a few comments on blogs that I have written which were extremely sexists, attacking, and completely unrelated to the blog topic. I don't mind someone disagreeing with me however, I do mind if they aren't respectful enough to keep it professional. I don't have any problem deleting comments but I've never unfollowed someone because of it. We also have to be mindful that these posts, for the most part, will be seen and read by our target audiences who will also see the comments. The last thing we should be doing is writing comments that cause a neutral party to cringe and leave a bad impression on an otherwise good blog. 

Apr 09, 2015 02:28 AM
Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi Bob -

I think there are instances of comments being removed that wouldn't qualify as actually being censorship. Blatantly offensive comments, attacks on persons rather than ideas, shameless self-promotion including links are all out of line with the community guidelines. Further, we should be respectful of posts that were written for an outside audience, and shouldn't interfere with efforts to enhance a member's business.

Of the handful of comments I have deleted over the years, only one wasn't a link to someone's web page, but was abusive and way out of line - and not to me, but to another commenter.

Apr 09, 2015 06:03 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

The only thing I delete is spam.  People are entitled to their opinions.  I've yet to have anyone here express a dissenting opinion in such a rude way (bad language or hostile) that I felt I had to delete it.

Apr 09, 2015 08:01 AM
Debb Janes
Nature As Neighbors - Camas, WA
Put My Love of Nature At Work for You

I only delete spam. I've sure had my feelings hurt and felt misunderstood a time or two, but I would never delete someone, nor would I un-subscribe. Unless somebody was just plain mean. :)

Apr 09, 2015 09:03 AM
Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

I've been blogging here on ActiveRain since 2008.  Other than spam, I have only deleted a couple comments to my blogs, in all that time.  I would rather keep it real, and let the words speak for themselves!

Apr 09, 2015 11:28 AM
Lisa Von Domek
Lisa Von Domek Team - Dallas, TX
....Experience Isn't Expensive.... It's Priceless!

Hello Bob,

As with most of the other comments, I have only censored Spam.  But if  something was too off-color or offensive that might have to go too...it would just depend on the commen

Apr 09, 2015 12:12 PM
Claude Labbe
RLAH / @properties - Washington, DC
Realty for Your Busy Life

Interesting topic; my comment is different than it would have been 2 weeks ago.

There was an incident in my neighborhood; a neighbor worked to get the incident discussed in a citywide blog; she was successful in having the author shine light on the issue.

Within 24 hours, the blog went completely crazy.  By the end of it, I think they were discussing whether the earth revolves around the sun. You can understand the name calling went to the most base characteristics of age/gender/color/income/orientation.

I was appalled at that discussion and quickly stopped adding my voice.

Foolish me, I thought Active Rain was blogging, but now I realize this is mosty a very civilized genteel professional board.  The few instances you've seen....ignore and move on.  As you pointed out, you've got lots of friends here.

Apr 10, 2015 10:13 AM