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Let Me Count the Ways Suntrust Mortgage Screwed Up

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Real Estate Agent with Long and Foster Real Estate VA License # 0225089470

Let Me Count the Ways Suntrust Mortgage Screwed Up

In my role serving my HOA, I have learned a lot about pool capacity and who counts toward it.  Prince William County, VA counts people on deck in the enclosed pool area, as well as those physically in the pool, as bathers.  And sometimes, for instance when a large swim team is practicing during regular pool hours at the most popular pool for residents, the number of bathers can quickly pass approved county capacity.  It is what it is and you have to conform to the restrictive number, even if you don't like it.  But Pool Capacity is just counted...as in head count.  The metric system has no bearing on a head count.one thing you probably shouldn't do, if you happen to disagree with the number, is accuse the European lifeguards of counting using the metric system.   Yeah.  Counting is counting no matter where you live or what system you use.  The fact that someone thinks people count differently using the metric system just makes me want to laugh and cry simultaneously.  You can't make this stuff up.

Suntrust Mortgage really made two Bristow Real Estate Agents angry this month, and one of them was me.  A listing of mine in Braemar went under contract in early April to settle in early June.  The contract gave the Buyers sixty days to close.  Perhaps the employees at Suntrust Mortgage's underwriting department simply can't do math at all.  Sixty days is a LONG time to get a loan done.    Yet settlement date came and went while underwriting at Suntrust Mortgage continued to rinse and repeat a method of requesting tax transcripts from the IRS that wasn't working.  It took them four days past the original settlement date to think, "Hmm...maybe we should send someone down to the IRS office and eliminate the possibility of misunderstanding about the form."  That's my take now, though at the time, the enemy was framed as the IRS.

Well, after speaking with the Suntrust Mortgage loan officer after blowing past the second settlement date, once tax transcripts were in hand, for his WORST case scenario of snail-like pace for underwriting.  I was given a date, passed it along to my Seller and he agreed to extend the settlement date for six days to allow for the final HUD to be approved and closing docs sent out.

Settlement was to happen yesterday, but the closing department of Suntrust Mortgage could not figure out the numbers on the final HUD and how to get them right for approval.   Buyers were sitting at a closign table for two hours when the settlement company couldn't wait anymore and had to close for th day.

Emailing my Seller who has since moved across the globe, to let him know that Suntrust Mortgage screwed up AGAIN, was not easy.  Of course, the loan officer was on the phone telling me that this wasn't the Buyers fault and that they were "golden."  Unfortunately, Buyers are only as good as their lenders and chosen mortgage companies, so Suntrust's internal underwriting and closing department problem had put these golden buyers in default of contract for the third time.

Thankfully, my Seller was reasonable and waited one more day.  Settlement has happened, but not without a lot of undue stress on all parties and a delay of twelve days past the already long sixty day settlement. Suntrust may have competitive rates, but I have a feeling, that's because they don't spend money on quality underwriters and closers.  So if you have a pre-approved Suntrust Mortgage accompanying an offer on any of my listings in the future, I will likely share this story and advise you get another lender who has well oiled underwriting and closing departments so you don't lose your earnest money.  Not all Sellers are as patient as this one was.  And Suntrust Mortgage can land you in the deep end and costing you money in hotel rooms, storage and lost earnest money.

 

Comments(16)

Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Broker
Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

I feel your pain, Chris Ann, and with these big impersonal lenders comes lack of attention to detail, and little consideration for the time invested by the parties, much less the terms and time period of the purchase contract. The only good news I heard yesterday was the TRID is delayed to October 1, but hell is still coming for us all.

Jun 19, 2015 04:34 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Real Estate Agent, Top 1% of Lyon Agents   After sitting in on the TRID class, my biggest concern was buyers preaproval letters being nothing more than a wish on paper.  Lenders won't be able to ask for tax returns and proof of income until they get the "intent to proceed," back from the buyer.  

Jun 19, 2015 04:46 AM
Stefan Winter
Real Estate in IL & NV | Owner of Real Estate Web Tech | Daily Vlogger - Las Vegas, NV
Owner - Winter Group & Real Estate Web Tech

I have had this happen also, luckly it took only 7 days to fix. I have my prefered lender in each market that I know will go above and beyond to close on time. Sometimes you have to go with someone else, but I always try.

Jun 19, 2015 05:32 AM
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Broker
Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

Even after reviewing POI and tax returns, the preapproval is still worthless. I think the biggest problem will be no major last-minute changes to the closing statement, and requiring mail receipt and losing 7 days. It's bad enough trying to close a loan in 30 days now. Come October, that will be pretty much impossible, I'm afraid.

Jun 19, 2015 05:40 AM
Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi Chris Ann - You would think that having the word "mortgage" in their company's name would suggest a familiarity with the loan process, but apparently not. Glad you finally got it closed.

Jun 19, 2015 06:32 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Stefan Winter --We all love to work with trusted mortgage lenders that we know can close on time.

Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Real Estate Agent, Top 1% of Lyon Agents --The lender who taught our class was pretty calm about it and said hand delivery of disclosures is still valid, which is great.  I have heard that walk through issues will be handled in a different section of the HUD which does not affect APR.  Who knows.  I keep hearing different things.  Since it's going to happen, I'd rather get it out of the way and get familiar with our new reality.

Dick Greenberg --Me too.  My Seller will be happy too.  All of this has been happening while he was sleeping.

 

Jun 19, 2015 07:12 AM
Tom White
Franklin Homes Realty LLC (615) 495-0752 or www.FranklinHomesRealty.com - Franklin, TN
Franklin Homes Realty LLC, Franklin TN

Chris Ann, I'm happy to hear you managed to close...eventually. We had a similar problem with a different, large southeastern bank/mortgage co. last year. A closing originally scheduled for mid December didn't close until mid January! Despite our concerns, our buyer was convinced her "local" bank (which wasn't really local at all) could do the job. Fortunately the seller was patient!

Jun 19, 2015 08:46 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Tom White --This is only going to get worse with changes coming, now in October.  

Jun 19, 2015 09:50 AM
Ed Silva, 203-206-0754
Mapleridge Realty, CT 203-206-0754 - Waterbury, CT
Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally

This is a nice shout out for Suntrust Mortgage , a lender you would want to avoid at all possibilities

Jun 19, 2015 12:29 PM
Hella Mitschke Rothwell
(831) 626-4000 - Honolulu, HI
Hawaii & California Real Estate Broker

I'm still scratching my head about counting pool attendees in the metric system. :0

Jun 19, 2015 06:51 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Ed:  Yes.  Avoid them if you want to settle on time or don't want your buyers in default.

Hella M. Rothwell, Broker/Realtor® I was wondering if someone was going to pick up on that.  

Jun 20, 2015 12:49 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Chris Ann, I am bracing myself as I feel there may be more short sales ... another round, if you will, heading in our direction. Those of us who have done them know the amount of time, effort and energy they require. And, patience.  Lots of patience.

Congrats on closing the SunTrust short sale!

Jun 21, 2015 06:11 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Kathleen Daniels it wasn't a Short Sale.  It was a regular old sale and Suntrust put their buyers in default three times.  It was nuts.  

Jun 22, 2015 03:58 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Oh Crap, Chris Ann, How did I get that all wrong?  I promise it was not a drive-by comment.  I've been so busy these past few months ... kinda crazy-land and I guess the crazy is gone to my head too. Sorry if my comment disrespected the contents of your post.

Jun 22, 2015 06:21 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Kathleen Daniels I know you would never drive by comment.  And honestly, I do so many Short Sales, and this type of delay you'd expect on a Short Sale, I can understand.  No...this was a warning about Suntrust as a lender for buyers who want to close to on time.  

Jun 22, 2015 06:25 AM
Dave Halpern
Dave Halpern Real Estate Agent, Inc., Louisville, KY (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
Louisville Short Sale Expert

That's why I always use independent mortgage brokers. They hustle and are more accountable and self-accountable than bank employees.

Nov 25, 2017 07:26 AM