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IT IS NOT GOOD TO DESIGN A ROOF THAT IS GUTTERLESS!

By
Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

Gutters and downspouts are an extremely important aspect of any roof design and IT IS NOT GOOD TO DESIGN A ROOF THAT IS GUTTERLESS!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This 6 year old house has no gutters anywhere and never has.

Can you see where a large portion of this roof rain water ends up?

A gallon of rain water is contained in an area 21" x 11" x 1".  During heavy rains not only does this water rush to the point indicated by the red circle, but all over the roof to the left.  Where does it end up?

Right at the stairwell!

This leads, of course, to the basement.

Huge holes have been dug into the soil behind the stairwell lip.

You can look into the large holes there all the way down into oblivion.

HOUSES DON'T MAKE VERY EFFECTIVE BOATS!

But look further.

Mud, muck and debris collect at the bottom of the stairs.

And clog the drain, which leads to the sump pump...

And rots the wood trim at the base of the doorway...

And fills up the pit!

My client returned to the house a few days later during a heavy rain and sent me a video she calls "Dancing In The Rain."

The sump pump could not keep up!

What a mess!

And this was just one problem of many all around this house.  And all were water related - draining, cascading, splashing, rushing water!

My recommendation:  houses are often built without gutters as the designer thinks it helps the house to retain an architectural appeal.  It might do that, but form over function is often a very bad idea!  There was not only damage to trim and roofing all around the house, but major soil erosion as thousands of gallons of water collect around house.  That pressure will work on the foundation over time, doing unnecessary, and perhaps one day catastrophic, damage.  Gutters are essential to collect and divert roof water.  Further, these gutters MUST be large enough, with downspouts large enough, to handle the amount of water the roof collects!  The downspouts that this rain water is diverted to must, that is MUST, carry that water well away from the house!  And grading, of course, that also encourages water away from the house, cannot be an afterthought.  As stated above, HOUSES DON'T MAKE VERY EFFECTIVE BOATS!

 

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments (19)

James Dray
Fathom Realty - Bentonville, AR

Good morning Jay.  I've seen the same issue around here.  Not often but it does happen

Jul 22, 2015 09:32 PM
ROGER HOLLOWAY
ProStead Realty - Charlotte, NC
Charlotte NC Broker/Realtor® Licensed in NC & SC

Wow, Jay.  As an old gutter company owner, it's refreshing to hear a pro discuss this.  I've always said that architects are normally not thinking about water management coming off the roof when they design. A good exercise for us real estate agents is to look at each house and say, "Where is the water going, as it comes off of that roof?" Then look around to see the results of months and years of where that water has landed.

Jul 22, 2015 09:34 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Houses's do not make effective boats? Have you not heard of a house boat? I bet they don't have gutters ;)

Jul 22, 2015 09:45 PM
Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

Good morning, Jay Markanich I've seen many new homes built by builders who eliminate this item and tell the potential buyer he is preventing them from getting ice dams in the winter!!!  water and ice shield plus heated coils in the gutter will prevent that, if it's likely to occur....I've never had any in any home I lived in....and they all had gutters and downspouts to divert water away from the foundation....

Jul 22, 2015 09:52 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I seem to see it more and more James.  Not understanding why!

Roger - I see poor gutter/downspout designs many times a week.  Water is water!  It does what water does!  You have to obey physics or physics will punish you!

Jim - I stand corrected! 

Let me think.  (says he, going back to fourth grade)  When is a door not a door?  When it's ajar!  When is a house boat not a house boat?  When it's not aboat!  Hope that works...

Prevent ice dams?  What a diaper load Barbara!  Builders think people are idiots.  Ice dams are caused by poor roof ventilation.  Pure and simple.  And where ice is abundant and pervasive, coils are a great idea.  I think the Detroit airport has heated runways.  Good idea!  You'll like this.

Jul 22, 2015 10:03 PM
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Jay, so many houses in Florida do not have gutters that should have! Enjoy your day!

Jul 22, 2015 10:04 PM
Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY

Good morning Jay,

If that was done here the winters would have taken a greater toll on cement and wood.

Make yourself a great day.

Jul 22, 2015 10:09 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Even if on a slab, a house should divert water away from itself Wayne.

Jul 22, 2015 10:09 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Raymond - I can't think of a roof design where the house would benefit from a lack of gutters.

Jul 22, 2015 10:10 PM
Tom White
Franklin Homes Realty LLC (615) 495-0752 or www.FranklinHomesRealty.com - Franklin, TN
Franklin Homes Realty LLC, Franklin TN

We rarely see houses here without gutters. But--almost as important is the grading away from the house where the gutters discharge. If it's not graded properly it's almost like having no gutters at all.

Jul 22, 2015 10:32 PM
Sheila Anderson
Referral Group Incorporated - East Brunswick, NJ
The Real Estate Whisperer Who Listens 732-715-1133

Good morning Jay. I had a new garage without gutters. Water flooded the areas below. I now have gutters and guards. Great point.

Jul 22, 2015 10:40 PM
Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

I bet even houseboats have gutter! I never thought to look at a house to make sure that it has gutters but I will now. I just assumed they are installed as a matter of course like windows and doors - but I guess not! 

Jul 22, 2015 10:55 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I rarely see this also Tom.  But when I do it is always a problem.

Sheila - problem solved!

Lise - I don't inspect many house boats (well, never) but you are probably right!  They should be a matter of course, but some people want to design form over function.

Jul 22, 2015 11:29 PM
Fred Hernden, CMI
Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area - Albuquerque, NM
Albuquerque area Master Inspector

I have stood on my soapbox many times saying that gutters is a part of a roof design and that the builders should include them in their package! I recommend them on every house they are not installed on!! I think I have a gutter fetish...

Jul 23, 2015 12:10 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

1.  I want a photo.
2.  You are correct.

But, boy, could I have some fun with that fetish thing, Fred.

Jul 23, 2015 01:03 AM
Stephen Weakley
Nationwide Mortgage Services - Rockville, MD

I'm surprised there isn't water in the basement already.  I had a downspout extension come loose during a rather heavy rain.  The water worked its way down through the soil and entered the house where the septic pipe went through the foundation.  Fixed that one real quick!

Jul 23, 2015 02:40 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

The foundation has held firm, so far Stephen.  But they are tickling the sleeping tiger.

Jul 23, 2015 04:03 AM
Fred Hernden, CMI
Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area - Albuquerque, NM
Albuquerque area Master Inspector

I do Jay... I do! 

Jul 24, 2015 01:12 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Too much information Fred.  They care calling that "optics" now.

Jul 24, 2015 01:16 AM