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What Can Trigger a New Closing Disclosure and New Waiting Period?

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Mortgage and Lending with George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages NMLS #65149

As I stated last Friday in my blog "New TILA-RESPA Integrated  Disclosure Time Requirement", we are less than a week from when the new TILA-RESPA Closing Disclosure time requirement goes into effect.  Even though we have had more than ample time to prepare for this change, there still seems to be a lot of  confusion.   Besides confusion over the Closing Disclosure time requirements, there also seems to be a lot of confusion over  What Can Trigger a New Closing Disclosure and New Waiting Period?

There are only three things which will automatically trigger a new Closing Disclosure waiting period, and they are:

  • If the APR Increases by more than .125%
  • If there is a loan product change (new loan program).
  • If a pre-payment penalty is added to the loan.

Anything other than the three things above will not trigger a new Closing Disclosure waiting period, and the loan can Close as scheduled, as long as all corrections are made on time.  This means there is no need to be worried about unexpected changes, unless they fall into the three categories above.  In fact at the present time it is really only two things, because right now I cannot think of a loan program which presently has a pre-payment penalty. 

So unexpected discoveries on a walk-through, even if they require seller credits to the buyer will not trigger a new Closing Disclosure waiting period.  Nor most changes made to payments or closing costs at closing , including:

  • Taxes
  • Meter readings
  • Oil
  • Escrow changes
  • Typos, and
  • Loan Amount changes which do not effect the APR by .125% or more

 This does not mean we can all relax and think everything will go as normal, but what it does mean is if everyone works as a team, disruptions can be kept to a minimum.  If we are all prepared for these changes by:

  • Educating everyone as much as possible.
  • Making sure all loan conditions are completed quickly
  • Everyone communicates with each other
  • Walkthroughs are done earlier if possible
  • Eliminating last minute negotiations
  • Submitting ALL addendums before the loan is approved
  • Setting realistic Closing Dates!!!

If everyone does this, then the majority of the fears about the new TILA-RESPA Integrated  Disclosure (TRID), and What Can Trigger a New Closing Disclosure and New Waiting Period can be avoided.

 

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Comments (41)

Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

George, this is going to be a game changer ... in terms of how long we can realistically close. I just submitted an offer that has a 30 day close of escrow if we have a ratified contract by end of day on 10-1-2015. If after 10-1-2015 then it is a 45 day close ... we want to get it in before TRID become effective.

Sep 29, 2015 02:06 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Anna you are taking the right approach, and I think you will do just fine with the new time-line.

Paul you are welcome

Fred it is .125% or more, if the APR goes down it does not trigger a new waiting period.  And thank you for the suggestion about doing a post on the APR, I will do that in the near future.

Joe, the CFPB requires Lenders to do a Loan Estimate once they have the 6 peaces of information that constitute an application.  The CFPB has also come out with their own definition of what a Pre-Approval is.  The CFPB states that if a Lender says they are giving a Pre-Approval, that means it has been basically underwritten, and the borrower just needs to find a property now and have an appraisal.  Anything short of that the Lender has to call it a Pre-Qualification.  So 99% of the time Lenders will be issuing a Pre-Qualification instead of a Pre-Approval because of time constraints.  Also Lender are going to make sure they do not collect all six pieces of information that constitute an application so they do not have to issue a Loan Estimate with every Pre-Qualification Letter.

Kathleen the new rules do not go into effect until October 3rd.  So any loan submitted up to October 2nd will fall under the existing guidelines.  Hope that helps.

Sep 29, 2015 02:20 AM
Fred Cope

George, thanks for answering the question.  I had asked someone else the same question, and they didn't know.  It made no sense for it to trigger if improving, but I know to ask unasked questions is better than assuming.

Sep 29, 2015 08:52 AM
Barbara Altieri
Better Homes and Gardens RE Shore and Country Properties - Shelton, CT
REALTOR-Fairfield County CT Homes/Condos For Sale

George -- Great post. There was a LOT of misinformation out there especially regarding walkthough issues. Thanks for clarifying.

Sep 29, 2015 04:45 AM
Pamela Seley
West Coast Realty Division - Murrieta, CA
Residential Real Estate Agent serving SW RivCo CA

This is definitely a game changer. I expect longer closings. 

Sep 29, 2015 05:00 AM
Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

George, good summary - more consumers and realtors need to be educated about the new forms and rules. I personally like the new forms - much clearer! My understanding is that it is the fixed rate increase by 1/8% or more that would trigger a 3-day delay and an increase of 1/4% on an adjustable loan PLUS if the consumer changes his mind and wants to switch from fixed to adjustable or vice versa.

Sep 29, 2015 06:34 AM
Patricia Feager, MBA, CRS, GRI,MRP
DFW FINE PROPERTIES - Flower Mound, TX
Selling Homes Changing Lives

Thanks George! I always look up to you for accurate information about what's going on in the Mortage business. You're someone I know, like and trust. I find that not all lenders are created equal - thank God for you!!!

Sep 29, 2015 08:27 AM
Fred Cope
Reliant Realty in Nashville, TN - Nashville, TN
Looking For Homes With A Smile

George, having read the new TRID and following your blogs, I have far less trepidation than when first I heard changes coming.  Three keys that will make it possible to return quickly to near normal business are:

1. Knowledge--read, digest and become comfortable with the new TRID.

2. Communication--spend time informing, following up, and doubling down on maintaining timelines.

3. Organization--Plan the work and Work the plan.  Leave nothing to chance, avoid changes, do not procrastinate nor assume someone else is doing what needs to be done. 

If buying or selling, make certain you have a real comfort level with the MLO and REALTOR®.  Seller and Listing Agent should have target dates on their calendars as well as the Buyer, MLO and Selling Agent.  Selling Agents should INSIST on getting the Buyer and MLO in gear immediately.  The MLO needs to KNOW the file, and not put a "I think I can work things out"  buyer in the Selling Agents' car.  Verify FUNDS IN THE BANK NOW, before making offers on listings.  This is not a pickup game of basketball.  Everyone must understand that they are disrupting the lives of other folks. 

Am I on track?

Sep 29, 2015 09:24 AM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

George, there has been so much hand-wringing over this, and a lot of the drama seems pretty unnecessary.  Washington is only regulating disclosure, not the product itself.  As an old regulator, disclosure regulation is fine, but don't tell lenders or settlement attorneys or Realtors how much they can charge!  That would be bad.

Sep 29, 2015 12:35 PM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

George Souto this is very important for buyers to know - that the delays are because of specifics - and they can avoid them if they do everything right - from beginning to end.

Sep 29, 2015 03:13 PM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

George great information as always, nothing less than what I would expect from you my friend. Buyers, Sellers and Realtors need to read and learn...Endre

Sep 29, 2015 04:47 PM
Sharon Parisi
United Real Estate Dallas - Dallas, TX
Dallas Homes

George, thank you so much for this detailed post.  Much of the information we're receiving in Dallas is general information.  The detail will be helpful.

Sep 29, 2015 04:51 PM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

 I think the fears of the Y2k of the mortgage industry...she says fingers crossed...are largely overrated.

Sep 29, 2015 06:38 PM
Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

George Souto I have bookmarked your post to review once again so all the information sinks into my gray matter. Thanks!

Sep 29, 2015 10:09 PM
Nick T Pappas
Assoc. Broker ABR, CRS, SFR, e-Pro, @Homes Realty Group, Broker/Providence Property Mgmnt, LLC Huntsville AL - Huntsville, AL
Madison & Huntsville Alabama Real Estate Resource

George, I think most all of us have attended classes about the changes and you have certainly kept us updated and informed...still I agree that the first month or so will probably be a little trying, but overall I think we'll all adjust fairly easily.

Sep 30, 2015 02:42 AM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good morning George Souto,

This is an exceptional well written post on a topic that is top of mind right now. One of my listings went under contract last night with a 30 day close..contract dated 9/30 and buyer has made full loan application! Whew!!!!

Sep 30, 2015 08:22 PM
Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
The People You Know, Like and Trust!

Thanks for make this so easy to understand in clear plain language!

Oct 03, 2015 02:41 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Hey, George!

I included this post in today's "Last Week's Favorites".  Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

Oct 04, 2015 01:46 AM
Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

George Souto Great summary.  I think TRID is somewhat similar to Y2K - many thought the world was coming to an end - but it turned out to be no big deal.

Oct 04, 2015 05:03 AM
Nance Overton
Na Pali Properties, Inc. - Hanalei, HI
Specializing in Residential Homes, Condos & Land

This is great! I will certainly save your info as a reference!

Oct 04, 2015 08:49 AM
DEANNA C. SMITH CERTIFIED MOBILE NOTARY
Certified Mobile Notary Signing Agent - Smith Mountain Lake, VA
Highest Ranked Certified Mobile Notary in Virginia

As always, communication is the key.   Realtor, client and lender should stay in touch and coordinate the closing so it goes smoothly

Oct 05, 2015 04:51 AM