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Why Must Some Agents Play Games?

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Real Estate Agent with Leigh Brown & Associates, RE/MAX Executive

Please bear with me, I have to vent right now.

I received a personal referral in June of last year for some folks who would be needing to sell their home this spring.  We began talking about the process, about preparing the home for sale, about market performance, about timing, etc etc.

We had met a few times, establishing our game plan.  We had spoken on the phone several times hammering out our details.  I referred them to another agent in the town where they're headed, who took fabulous care of them and found the perfect house which even worked out with the ideal closing date.

An appointment was set for this coming Friday for me to go out and get the paperwork finalized, and get the house officially on the market.

Then, the phone rings yesterday morning.  The seller called and said that he was in a dilemma.   (Background information.  They purchased this home as a to-be-built new construction property, had no agent when they went to the model-SO the onsite agent called his sister, who happens to be a real estate agent, to come out and represent them (i.e. get paid for nothing).) He had stopped by the model to let the onsite agent know that they were about to list the house with me (yes, he named me), and that if the onsite agent had any prospects who were in need of a home and nothing was available from the builder, then would he please send them over?  OF COURSE HE WOULD!  He immediately called his sister.  Who, after 2.5 years and NO CONTACT with these folks, called them up and said that SHE should list the home, since she lives in that neighborhood and didn't they have SO MUCH FUN when she represented them before?  And well, if they would use her, THEN her brother at the model would send prospects their way!

I am not one to slam my competition.  They usually do a very fine job slamming themselves.  So I put in my filter and said that he should just select whomever he felt would do the best job representing his best interests and who would take the greatest care of them.  What else could I have said?  That this agent and her brother are two self-serving snakes in the grass, and the entire real estate community knows it?  No, if I say that, I'm just as bad as they are.  DAMN!

I get another call today, telling me that they have decided to list the house with her.  After all, she will be able to sell it faster since she lives in the same neighborhood. (Did I miss something in all of my education? Does the location of an agent's personal home dictate when his/her listings will sell?)

I was so mad, veins were popping in my head.  But I still asked what I could have done differently to have earned the business.  'Oh, nothing, you were great.'  But not great enough.  I told him that I was disappointed, and wished them the best of luck and hung up the phone quicker than I usually do.

What really has me mad is that I met with these folks several times.  Gave them tons of information.  Gave them staging information.  The whole works.  At no point was I competing.  Now at the last minute, another agent swoops in. 

That old Alabama song keeps coming to mind...'Old Flame.'  Remember that one?

"That old flame might not be stronger, but it's been burning longer-than any spark I might have started in your eye."

Virginia Halter
RE/MAX Signature Properties - Harrisburg, NC
ABR, CDPE, CRS, GREEN, SFR, SRES

I can't believe they went with her!!! You are correct, you couldn't have done anything else or said anything else to change their minds without sounding like sour grapes.  I wonder what they would have said if you had asked them why they contacted you in the first place instead of the agent they had previously worked with.  I wonder if they would have been able to see that she had ignored them for 30 months, until it was pay day again.

 

Feb 20, 2007 07:16 AM
Renée Donohue~Home Photography
Savvy Home Pix - Allegan, MI
Western Michigan Real Estate Photographer
Leigh you were a class act for asking what you could have done differently to "earn" their business.  Good for you and better things will always come your way for being so classy.   I really like that line and learned something from you today, thank you!
Feb 20, 2007 07:25 AM
Ron Jeremy
Yer Mom's Back Door - Wilmington, NC
Kong Dong

I feel your pain. I have had FRIENDS pull this on me with their financing.

Let's face it, 9 times out of 10, our clients don't care about us or our well-being regardless of how much effort we've put into their transaction. I mean, we're ALL loaded and make WAY too much money right? Pfffft...

Maybe next time, if you can keep from choke-slamming them, politely thank them for their consideration and explain to them how you'll be there if they need any help. You never know, they just might end up referring you or dropping the other agent when he/she screws up.

As hard as it may be, you gotta kill em with kindness. If not, try this instead?

 

Feb 20, 2007 07:49 AM
Virginia Halter
RE/MAX Signature Properties - Harrisburg, NC
ABR, CDPE, CRS, GREEN, SFR, SRES

Ryan, i LOVE your idea!!!!  That is too funny. Does it work? LOL

Leigh, i will order it today.  We can split the ten bucks.  You use it when you need to.  I'll use it when I need to.  We can rent it out at the office.  Whacha think?

Feb 20, 2007 08:14 AM
Leigh Brown
Leigh Brown & Associates, RE/MAX Executive - Charlotte, NC
CEO, Dream Maker - Charlotte, NC

Ryan-THANK YOU! 

virginia-we are SO ordering that tomorrow!

Renee-thanks!  It was HARD to keep my filter in.

Feb 20, 2007 10:07 AM
Debbie Malone
Londeree's Real Estate & Property Management - Lynchburg, VA
From Lynchburg To The Lake (434) 546-0369
I had this has happen to me last year- worked with a seller for several months who wanted to move 20 minutes closer to his girlfriend. He looked at a house with another agent he didn't know and ended up listing with this stranger. She sold him a house 4 months ago and he was talked into letting the seller rent it til their house is built.  He and his new wife are now living with her mother in her apartment! Cozy! LOL! 
Feb 20, 2007 01:41 PM
Randy L. Prothero
eXp Realty - Hollister, MO
Missouri REALTOR, (808) 384-5645

I had something similar happen.  My client took all of my information and gave it to her sister who just got her license. 

Feb 20, 2007 05:23 PM
Lucky Lang
Premiere Plus Realty Marco Island - Marco Island, FL
Marco Island & Naples Florida Real Estate

Leigh,

OUCH!  We've all had this happen.  My guts are churning right now thinking back to my last one.  Let me know how the voodoo works.

Lucky :)

Feb 26, 2007 01:17 PM
Frank Helderle
RE/MAX Best Choice - Saint Louis, MO

Leigh,

I have had almost the exact thing happen to me on numerous occasions, so I did something about it. I actually had a lawyer friend write up a form for me that I have the seller sign once they say they are going to list with me in the near future. basically all it says is that Mr. & Mrs __________ have decided to list and market their property located at ________________, _________,___________ (address,city state) on or about _____________ for a period not to exceed ______ days. (Normally I put a small number in the box next to days.) This agreement may be terminated by either party with 30 days written notice.

Since starting with this form I've not had one cancellation or a seller list with another agent. The only one that came close I at least had 30 days to discuss the pro's and con's of listing with someone else and my second option was just list with me for the short term period which allows me the prime time to markto get it listed and hopefully generate some traffic and maybe get an offer. Once you get traffic and an offer you are really appreciated.  

Feb 27, 2007 04:08 AM
George Tallabas
RE/MAX Advantage - Nampa, ID
Idaho Real Estate
Leigh....."Been there done that"!  Unfortunately there are those in any industry that have to be self-serving at whatever the expense may be.  All you can do is keep you head held I and know that you are a woman of integrity.  Remember that "This too shall pass".
Feb 27, 2007 05:01 AM
Ginger S
Wilkinson & Associates, Wilmington NC - Wilmington, NC
Wilmington NC Real Estate & Relocation~

Leigh,

You have so much class, I hate to even mention these snakes in the same sentence!

My blood is boling. I just don't understand these kind of slimey people!

Is it worth filing a grievance?

Ginger

Feb 27, 2007 03:33 PM
Keith Zimmer
RE/MAX Results - Saint Louis, MO
Leigh I think when they 1st called and told you they had a dilima I would have asked them to meet with me then before they did anything else. (IF they had already signed of course you couldn't do this but we'll say they had not.) In the meeting I would go through with them all the work you have are ready done for them. I would pull a CMA showing you record and your offices record in the area against her's (make sure your numbers are better) And finaly I would ask them how they would feel if they worked for x number of days at their job on a project and when the finnished their boss said "great job but Bob has the same title as you and is my nieghbor so he gets you check" they would like it and we don't and shouldn't stand for it to. It worked for me, now the peron was in sales himself. He actualy apoligized for taking me for granite. Be professional and state facts but be strong and let them know you were hurt.
Feb 27, 2007 05:17 PM
Tracy Santrock
Santrock Realty Group Inc. , - Cary, NC
Raleigh - Cary Broker

Leigh,

Good post.  Even the best in the business have to hold their cool.  Not everyone in the business has the same ethics as we have all seen at one time or another in our career.  

 

Mar 04, 2007 06:32 AM
Irene Rel
Keller Williams Client's Choice Realty - Colorado Springs, CO
CRS, e-PRO, PMN

Hi there,

I am so sorry to hear about what happened to you.  Just remember to "FOCUS" on what you want and NOT what you do not want.  You will be blessed many times over.  It is hard and bad things happen to good people.  Keep your head up and be ready for your next blessing.

 Fondly,

Irene

Mar 05, 2007 03:46 PM