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TRID - Dream for Some, Nightmare for Others

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TRID - Dream for Some, Nightmare for Others

 

 

     I'm about to close my first TRID loan.  It was one of the cleanest, easiest loan processes in recent memory.  If you follow my blog, you probably noticed me beating the TRID drum for a few months before the new rule's implementation on 10/3.  This was because I realized very early how important it would be to be prepared and have a process in place long before 10/3.  Many other professionals decided to wait.  Surely it wouldn't be implemented.  Surely it Mortgage Lender Approvalwouldn't affect the industry much.  Those same "professionals" are scrambling now.  I've heard stories of delays, stories of massive confusion, frustrated clients, and even frustrated loan officers who expected their companies to better prepare.  

 

 

     On the other end of the spectrum, Mason-McDuffie dedicated over 4000 man hours to TRID preparation to make sure we were ready far in advance.  I was looking forward to TRID as an opportunity to showcase our efficiency, and also to finally (and concretely) understand the process the best way possible - by doing.  I informed the agents involved it would be tough to meet the standard 17/21 day contingencies but thought we could pull it off with full cooperation from all involved parties along the way.  I also thought we could close in 30 days, but advised on a 45 day escrow period.  Turns out, we were clear to close just 20 days after I received an executed sales contract.  

 

 

     What makes TRID a dream for some and a nightmare for others?  For agents that look at the loan process as a group effort to reach a common goal, TRID is a dream.  For agents who like to steal the spotlight during the mortgage process and showcase how much control they have, TRID is a nightmare.  For lenders that inform their clients & agents of what's expected BEFORE getting started, TRID is a dream.  For those who assume others know what they're in store for, or themselves aren't sure, TRID is a nightmare.  For borrowers who return documents promptly, are involved in the loan process, and ask questions when they're not sure of something, TRID is a dream.  For borrowers who don't ask questions, return documents at their leisure, and expect to do nothing while the world bends over backward for them, TRID is a nightmare.  For those who were prepared, TRID is a dream.  For those who had their head in the sand, TRID is a nightmare.

 

 

     While many people are realizing that being unprepared for the post-10/3 changes in the mortgage world is a nightmare of an idea, I'm in a dream world - extremely proud of my team, and beyond happy with our process.  There are tweaks that we'll certainly make to continue to improve the speed of loan files, and things will get even better, but for such a broad set of changes to the mortgage process, I couldn't expect things to start off much better.  For me & my team at Mason-McDuffie, TRID is a dream.  

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Comments(29)

Ed Silva, 203-206-0754
Mapleridge Realty, CT 203-206-0754 - Waterbury, CT
Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally

My first deal under TRID will be a short sale and hopefully it will flow smoothly.  Fortunately the buyer is getting their work done as well.

Oct 31, 2015 12:19 AM
John Meussner

The TRID short sale combo?  You're an adventurous one, Ed!

Nov 01, 2015 03:20 PM
Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

John, I applaud your open-mindedness and fairness! You were a loud voice of criticism against TRID, but preparation got you not only "through", but with flying colors. Once I acquainted myself with the upcoming changes (research, listening to a very good NAR webinar on subject), it did not seem like such a big deal, in fact I commented somewhere that I LIKED the new forms as being a good deal clearer and easier to understand. Just last week during a CE class an attorney was lamenting that the TRID process was too cumbersome and anticipated long delays. I thought he was over-dramatizing in front of the ignorant and fearful of change. Maybe I'll show him your post. Again, thank you for confirming that the new system could work if all involved got just a little bit educated on it. 

Oct 31, 2015 03:24 AM
John Meussner

Sure thing, Olga, thanks for the comment!

Nov 01, 2015 03:21 PM
Christine Gerbehy
Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Fox and Roach Northfield - Egg Harbor Township, NJ
Making waves, one home at a time...

It doesn't have to be a nightmare! You just have to be on your game.  Get all paperwork and inspections done in a timely manner.  Get walkthroughs done.  my last one was a breeze!

Oct 31, 2015 03:28 AM
John Meussner

Bonus points for mentioning the walkthrough!  That's something people need to be aware of with TRID.  You certainly seem atop your game : )

Nov 01, 2015 03:22 PM
Mike Tizzano
Amerifirst Financial, Inc Equal Housing Oppurtinity Lender AZ BK0013635 NMLS 145368 LO:1015837 - Mesa, AZ
Protect Your Transaction Certified Lender

Preparation is key.  Your comparisons of who TRID is a dream vs. a nightmare for are spot on

Oct 31, 2015 04:18 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

John, I suspect many will experience a nightmare. As you point out ... TRID does not have to be a nightmare ... it can also be a dream.  Congratulations on your early success with TRID!!!!!

I am proud to be a part of that

Oct 31, 2015 05:07 AM
Ralph Gorgoglione
Metro Life Homes - Palm Springs, CA
California and Hawaii Real Estate (310) 497-9407

Thankd for the info.  TRID is still a bit mysterious for most.  In the long run, I'm sure we'll adjust and get used to it, just like everything else.

Oct 31, 2015 05:24 AM
John Meussner

If you need any help along the way don't hesitate to reach out, Ralph.  I've done quite a few educational classes for agents already.

Nov 01, 2015 03:23 PM
Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi John - Kudos to you for being ready for TRID. We have noticed that many lenders in our area are struggling with it, and some are clearly clueless - we got an offer last week with a 3 week close on a new loan, which I think they did to make it look attractive to our seller. Not happening, obviously.

Oct 31, 2015 05:37 AM
John Meussner

Thanks Dick...we're licensed in CO, and I'll be personally licensed there in 2016 ; )


On a serious note, though, lenders, title companies, and agents everywhere are struggling with the changes, mostly due to a lack of taking it seriously before 10/3.


 

Nov 01, 2015 03:24 PM
David Alan Baker | Laveen & South Phoenix Realtor
Keller Williams Realty Phoenix - Laveen, AZ
Your local Expert

This is good to see input from some of the ability to have smooth closings post change.  Like much there is always adjustment periods.

Oct 31, 2015 05:48 AM
Shirley Coomer
Keller Williams Realty Sonoran Living - Phoenix, AZ
Realtor, Keller Williams Realty, Phoenix Az

My lender spent many hours in preparation and like you things are moving along great.  TRID is requiring more communication, which is not a bad thing!!

Oct 31, 2015 09:30 AM
John Meussner

I like it for that reason - we're in a relationship business, and TRID allows us to strengthen those relationships

Nov 01, 2015 03:25 PM
Silvia Dukes PA, Broker Associate, CRS, CIPS, SRES
Tropic Shores Realty - Ich spreche Deutsch! - Spring Hill, FL
Florida Waterfront and Country Club Living

John, good for you and your customers!  The thorough preparation is paying off and taking the stress off everyone involved.

Oct 31, 2015 10:38 AM
Virtual Realty Consultants
Virtual Realty Consultants LLC - Wellesley, MA
Making the American Dream a Reality

I'm only hearing good things about TRID closings in October. Maybe clipping the wings of the attorneys or settlement agents who used to prepare the HUD-1 statements (typically last minute) and adding structure with a lender-prepared closing disclosure has helped?

Oct 31, 2015 02:08 PM
John Meussner

I've heard of a few nightmares...I'm sure plenty of folks were ready, but I know for a fact many were not, and they're having problems now.

Nov 01, 2015 03:25 PM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

John, Congratulations on the closing. I always advice clients to provide all the documents required by the lender in a timely manner. 

Oct 31, 2015 07:52 PM
Sham Reddy CRS
Howard Hanna RE Services, Dayton, OH - Dayton, OH
CRS

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on TRID which is more nightmare than a dream!!!

Oct 31, 2015 08:16 PM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

Kudos to you for being prepared and getting a clear-to-close in 20 days. Sounds like TRID is definitely a dream for you.

Oct 31, 2015 09:45 PM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Pre Trid and post Trid...the flow invites all and respect none. Get in or get out

Oct 31, 2015 10:53 PM
Valerie Crowell
Keller Williams - Walnut Creek, CA
Broker Associate

My first TRID deals go down next week.  From what I gathered, get your act together, pay attention and do your job and it will be all lollipops and unicorns.  So I have been dotting my "i's" and crossing my "t's" so far in advance that we are scheduled to close early on both.  Good Lord willin' and the creek don't rise!  I will confess to riding my lenders (neither of whom were my choice) like they were a short sale lender in 2009, but that's just me. 

Nov 01, 2015 09:37 AM
John Meussner

Good for you Valerie, hope your first one is smooth sailing (I like the lollipops & unicorns phrase, I may steal that!)


You shouldn't have to ride the lenders though, they should be keeping you in the loop before you have to ask what's going on

Nov 01, 2015 03:28 PM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

John Meussner - it's how we look at it!

After all, we should work in a team - and when it's team works, it's a dream!

Staying ahead of everything and plan for everything works. TRID may have something new, differnet - but it is still just another 'system' we need to master.

Nov 04, 2015 08:51 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

John Meussner 

That's great news for many who might fear how difficult TRID could be. Of course lack of preparation and acting recklessly without understanding the impact, and not educating your clients, are sure to cause a problem and delays, as might lenders who are not fully prepared as you are.

My preferred lender has things well covered from what I can tell. But my first 2 deals in TRID were cash so haven't had the test period yet!

Jeff

Nov 05, 2015 06:25 AM
Anonymous
Paula Favaro

TRID is a nightmare!! Triple the workload for everyone. It is to much back and forth between the title co and lender. All lenders are different so you can't really get a system down. I've been in this business 19yrs and I would like to get out.

Dec 22, 2015 11:44 AM
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Dave Halpern
Dave Halpern Real Estate Agent, Inc., Louisville, KY (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
Louisville Short Sale Expert

Nov. 2017, two years after TRID implementation, here's my observation:

  • It holds loan officers accountable for their initial offering of terms and costs, which in turn helps reduce last-minute surprises to the buyer.
  • It adds 3 to 5 days or more to the closing process.
Nov 24, 2017 12:39 PM