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Missed the Rental Fixtures (Furnace) in Ontario

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Commercial Real Estate Agent with RE/MAX West Realty Inc., Brokerage (Toronto)

Question:

Just had a conversation with the Listing agent. The property closed, and then it turns out that the furnace and air conditioner are leased.

Wouldn't the buyer's lawyer check this out on title search etc. The Listing agent said sellers didn't tell her it was leased. Who is at fault?

 

Answer:

The Listing agent is supposed to ask the question. This is a material fact and under the Code of Ethics, the listing agent is to investigate, determine and verify the material facts.

If the Seller says “no”, that response should be recorded.

If the Seller says that they are “not sure”, then it’s just a matter of looking at bthe energy bill, in most cases.

As for the lawyer, there are two types of registration:

1) title, which would include a mortgage relating to the price of the furnace, but that's expensive and may add 15% overall to the price and

2) registrations under the Personal Property Security Act (PPSA).

The mortgage will show up. The PPSA search is not done. It affects the Seller but the Buyer.

So, it’s not really clear. It’s unlikely that the lawyer missed it, it’s not generally a matter that they would address. The Listing agent may have missed it, so there’s some liability there. The Seller should have known, so there’s also some liability there. Contractually, the Seller is obligated. If the Seller claimed over as against the Listing agent, that could easily be 50% liability. If it were very obvious, then that might reach 100%.

 

Brian Madigan LL.B. Broker

www.iSourceRealEstate.com

FN LN
Toronto, ON

Brian - Water heaters are a common item to rent in Ontario, so your analysis would also apply to them.  Back around 2000, the rules changed so that you could buy out your water heater rental.

Nov 29, 2015 08:34 AM
Brian Madigan
RE/MAX West Realty Inc., Brokerage (Toronto) - Toronto, ON
LL.B., Broker

But, these buyouts can be extermely expensive!

 

Nov 29, 2015 09:13 AM
FN LN
Toronto, ON

Brian - Depends on when you do the buyout.  I did one for $25 and I told  someone else who did it for roughly the same amount.  This was done years ago on older water heaters.

Nov 29, 2015 09:59 AM
Brian Madigan
RE/MAX West Realty Inc., Brokerage (Toronto) - Toronto, ON
LL.B., Broker

I have run into $15,000 buyouts on $6,000 furnaces.

Nov 29, 2015 11:09 PM
Brian Madigan
RE/MAX West Realty Inc., Brokerage (Toronto) - Toronto, ON
LL.B., Broker

Marc,

 

Thanks a MILLION.

I see your comment pushed me over the million points here on AR.

Nov 29, 2015 11:11 PM
FN LN
Toronto, ON

Happy Million Pointsaire, Brian!!!

Nov 29, 2015 11:24 PM