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Well, it's time once again for this weeks edition of "ActiveRain Community Guidelines Re-Visited" where we're going through each of the guidelines, one by one, and expanding on their meaning.

This weeks guideline is perhaps one of the most important, and often, the one most violated:

  • Respect copyrights. Only upload content/images that you have the right to use (what you have paid for or own), and whose copyright rules allow for commercial use.

And another one that is similar:

  • Do not plagiarize (copy and paste) content from another source, and publish it as your own. You must obtain expressed permission from the original source to republish, and give reference to such within the body of your post. Permission to re-print is NOT the same as permission to re-publish.
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Let me start off by confessing that I was guilty of violating this guideline very early on in my initial few weeks on ActiveRain. I was a newb. The only blogging I had done was on MySpace, and I don't think that really qualifies. I was totally ignorant about the whole 'copyright' 'plagiarism' thing.

Well, ignorance is bliss, but it doesn't keep you out of jail, or court, for that matter.

Let's start off first by defining what exactly constitutes copyright infringement:

"The original author of a particular article or blog post is the only person who has the right to derive any benefits from the publication and subsequent distribution of that article/post. You must purchase/pay for the right to publish or distribute someone else's intellectual property, otherwise you do not have permission to publish that material as content on your own blog."

I think a lot of well-intentioned, and seemingly innocent people are guilty, at one point or another, or copyright infringement or plagiarism. Many of us enter the ActiveRain blogging fray with little or no prior experience. We simply lurk and learn. We watch other members, and mimic what they appear to be doing. We assume that certain practices are accepted. But many times, they aren't.

It's usually not until someone makes a comment in your post, or sends you an e-mail, that you realize you've messed up. Or worse, one of the AR gods robs a few of your points, and you cry 'Foul!' Fortunately for me, I had some very kind mentors who helped point out the errors of my ways.

Just so we're all on the same page here, points are awarded for your own original content. Points are not bestowed when you simply reprint other people's intellectual property, whether you have permission to republish their content or not. But we'll deal with that issue at another time.

Perhaps one of the resident authorities on this subject is our own, Lenn Harley. If you peruse her blog archives, you'll find a wealth of very helpful and practical advice as it relates to copyright infringement. Lenn herself has pocketed a nice chunk of change from those who were foolish enough to mess with her content/images.

In one of her articles, "You cannot 're-print' on ActiveRain," Lenn states: 

"IF YOU DIDN'T WRITE THE ARTICLE, you do not own the content and cannot publish it - EVEN WITH ATTRIBUTION."

Hold the Bus, Gus! You mean, even if we give credit to the original author within the body of our article, we can't publish it?

Lenn goes on to say: 

"If you ask an author for permission to "REPRINT" and receive that permission, you may PRINT the article and distribute, perhaps in mailings or hand-outs in a relocation package.  The author's name will be on the article.  You are merely distributing the article and will benefit only by the limited number of copies distributed. The author still benefits by having their writing distributed."

Lenn Harley of Homefinders.comSo what you're saying is that obtaining the original writer's permission to re-print doesn't mean you have the right to re-publish their content to your own blog?

As Lenn affirms: 

"PERMISSION TO REPRINT IS NOT PERMISSION TO PUBLISH"

(Now might be a good time to go back through your archive of past blog posts, and delete/amend any suspect content, whether text or images)

So what if you only want to use a small portion of someone's content, perhaps a sentence or two, as quotes within your blog post?

Well, according to Lenn: 

"USE SNIPPETS AND LINK - THAT'S "FAIR USE"

"The proper or legal way to get the information to the reader would be to publish an "introduction" or "snippet" (three or four lines of the original material) and then LINK to the article on the author's web site. The "Fair Use" exclusion under copyright law was intended for reviewers of original material, critics of books, movies, etc. to use "SNIPPETS"or short excerpts of original material and then publish the review of the original, not the original.  When one publishes an entire article, they have violated the copyright of the author, even if you give attribution and include the author's name in the article."

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So there ya go! A crash course on copyright infringement and plagiarism. I don't think we've quite covered all there is to say on this topic, so next week, I want to discuss further the issue of copyright infringement as it relates to the copying of images/pictures.

Until then, have a fun (and legal) rest of the week in the Rain! 

(Note:  All quoted source material is the intellectual property of Lenn Harley of Homefinders.com, and is used by both expressed permission and 'Fair Use' exclusion)

For further reading enjoyment:  How to Kreate Kwality Kontent   Is There Really Copyright Confusion? 

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UPDATE:  A suggestion was made to make this post available to our members when they encounter a blog post on our Network that clearly constitutes 'plariarized' (copied & pasted) content from another source, and to simply insert a link to this article into the comments section of that post. Others may feel more comfortable sending an e-mail to the fellow member, with the link embedded there. Either way, please feel free to use this post in whatever ways are most appropriate in assisting other members to better understand the importance of this issue. And always remember to demonstrate grace to those who are in error. Thanks!

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113 Comments on "Plagiarism for Dummies" - The ActiveRain Community Guidelines Re-Visited

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2008
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So Rich...is it safe to say that all the posts that come into my group that are just copy/paste quotes (no other writing but a "quotes for today") or poems are definitely not a positive thing? Are definitely plagiarized content? 
12:32am • #1
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Rich,

These instructive posts are so helpful.  I'm sure they take time and research on your part, but they really do make a huge difference for AR members.  I've been reading and learning and I'm sure others feel the same. Thanks!  

12:39am • #2
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Sally -  well, bottom-line, the answer is yes, it's safe to say. Perhaps the best thing would be for members to use the 'snippet' approach, add their two-cents of content, and simply insert the poem or quote?
12:46am • #3
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Ditto Ditto Ditto ( nine words short of my 25 points but I just wanted to say that much and nothing more ). Darn it, by explaining I exceed the minumum 12 words  but I think I should be true to the person I am and remain silent. That is, except to say thank you for re-posting these guidlines.
12:46am • #4
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Rich: Another great post. Thank you for sharing this information.
12:48am • #5
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Thanks Rich for a great post with informative info that needs to be drilled into our heads constantly!
12:48am • #6
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I'm thrilled links are good, because I'd hate to go back and edit them.  Never heard of snippets before, but I'll surely put them in my tool box.  :-) 
12:56am • #7
Rich, I was going to copy an image but thought better of it.  The image might have been construed as work related, and then I might have gotten a copywrite bill like BB.  Then I thought about coping a ..... This post was to the point. I even read it twice it was so good.  I guess I really need to go back into Lenn's archives to read a lot of her old posts.  She is a wealth of knowledge. AJ
1:06am • #8
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Thanks, Rich, I am going to go back and re-blog to make sure I snippeted correctly.
1:19am • #9
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I try to go out of my way to not step over that line.  I thought I was pretty knowledgeable on the subject, but have learned so much more from Lenn's posts.

1:57am • #10
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A discussion of copyright should also include the concept of public domain. Many government works are automatically in the public domain, as is a huge collection of photographs from the Library of Congress. More info can be found in Wikipedia's entry on public domain.

2:04am • #11

great and informative post.  I still don't see why people still find that plagarism is okay.

2:05am • #12
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John - yes, an excellent point. I'll make use of that in the next installment. Thanks!
2:46am • #13
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I think a lot is innocent too, after you're here awhile you learn. Are we blessed have Lenn who has taught us so much? Has AR ever thought of having a tutorial before someone can post their first post? 
4:41am • #14
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Excellent job....Great information. Now I can go back to my most recent post, add the line that I do have permission to reprint/republish and / or link my snippet --- then --- receive my points back ? !!! ;)
5:54am • #15
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First of all ...how can you possibly monitor every members post...there must be tons in violation ...so who is watching them and what content is not allowed? For example...are we still allowing jokes to be posted? I can't believe it is possible to monitor 80k plus members for plagiarized or copy-written material that is not theirs.
6:47am • #16
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I was SO hoping you had permission from Lenn!!!  She could hurt you BAD over that!!! :)
6:59am • #17
Thanks Rich for sharing that. You are right about us "newbies" not knowing but because of wonderful folks like yourself...you share great info so that we learn the right way to do this blogging thing...trust me I'm still learning for sure.
7:04am • #18
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One thing I've seen occassionally on AR is featured posts where the photo still has the copyright symbol splashed across it.  Obviously the photo was not paid for and yet the poster has been rewarded with a feature.  Despite how great the content of the post might be seeing the copyright symbol on the picture makes me pass on by.

7:23am • #19
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Rich people need constant reminders on this subject. I know there is a lot of confusion. Lenn always goes a great job of explaining the ins and outs on how to do things properly.
7:57am • #20
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Rich, your in-depth approach to explaining the Guidelines is excellent. Thanks for sharing.
8:31am • #21
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Rich- I didn't know in the beginning about pictures...Not until someone contacted me.    
9:55am • #22
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I kinda agree with Missy that before newbs can post, you might have them do some required reading...

I belong to another forum and I had to check off and read their rules before I could log a post in the forum.  Maybe you could set something like that up.  Have people check that they've read certain posts before being allowed to post a blog.

I know as a newbie there were some fantastic blogs I wish I had read before I dived into blogging.

10:08am • #24
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Thanks Rich. Really informative.  I didn't realize there could be a problem even if you credit the original source.

Good luck

 

 

10:17am • #25
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I am just learning about what I can and cannot use and I kind of wonder if I should go back over my blogs and edit!
10:36am • #26
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Rich, you posted this with the most perfect timing...a question was brought up regarding plagiarizing website content recently.  {someone caught another stager in their market who blatantly copy and pasted the material from her site to their own...}  It's safe to assume that these guidelines apply as well, correct? 

11:29am • #27
Rich,  Thank you for the post.  I am very aware of my writing and being a history major I aware of giving credit.  I love the way you referred Lenn's imformation as an interview.  Very good example of how to give credit.  I think my fault is picture.  I try to find free clipart and pictures off the net or use my own.  But it is hard to find free pictures for every situation.  How can I use pictures to illustrate my point and give credit to the owner? 
11:42am • #28
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Rich.....thank you for bring us up to speed with the reminder.  It can be so easy to cut and paste something of value.  Now back to originality!

12:39pm • #29
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Rich,

Thank God no one owns 'words'...we'd all be up the creek except Andrew Lenza!!! :^) Thanks,   Fran

12:47pm • #30
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I am laughing at how I read this sentence...my friend Bill G. wrote "Rich people need constant reminders on this subject." 

I read it and wondered what it mattered that they were rich.  Rich people, poor people... there's no excuse for plagiarism!!!   

Oh the Rich is Mr. Jacobson.... 

 ;- )

 

1:04pm • #31
Thanks Rich!  Just to be clear, you are saying that it's ok to post original thoughts on a somebody else's content, and link to that content, as long as you don't "paste" the content itself?
1:14pm • #32
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UPDATE:  A suggestion was made to make this post available to our members when they encounter a blog post on our Network that clearly constitutes 'plariarized' (copied & pasted) content from another source, and to simply insert a link to this article into the comments section of that post. Others may feel more comfortable sending an e-mail to the fellow member, with the link embedded there. Either way, please feel free to use this post in whatever ways are most appropriate in assisting other members to better understand the importance of this issue. And always remember to demonstrate grace to those who are in error. Thanks!
1:51pm • #33
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Kevin -  The Fair Use Exclusion allows you to use small excerpts or 'snippets' of the original source material. Most writers use 'quotes' and then a link to the original article. You can see how I did that here in this article. I quoted Lenn and embedded a link to her post. Let me know if you have any other questions.
2:01pm • #34
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I feel sorry for bloggers who don't have all the help and tips we get from AR.  When you're new at this it is so easy to make mistakes.  Thanks for the reminder. 
2:13pm • #35
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Guilty!!  I found one - I went back and credited and linked, although I did not use any of his stuff, but he gave me the idea.  Thanks, Rich
2:20pm • #36
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Thanks Rich for clarifying & helping us along the blogging-journey.
2:20pm • #37

I want to thank you Rich.  As I'm a newby to this pretty much, I appreciate any info on doing it the correct way.

2:31pm • #38
Rich, this is good information.  It would be very helpful it there were a tutorial, or an easier place to find all this information.  I had no idea we were allowed to use "snippets" or even what they were.
2:36pm • #39
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Cindy - At the bottom of every ActiveRain page, there is a link "Help/FAQ" that takes you to a wealth of excellent tutorials on just about everything possible. We're still compiling more information, but its a good start!
3:31pm • #40
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Gracious Rich...

Wonderful post. I've been waiting on this one :)

After all the research I recently did on this issue what I learned was the following:

  • Nothing is really free (i.e. the so called free image sites)
  • If we have obtained permission to 'publish' another's content/images we need that permission in writing.
  • I have to pay to play regardless of how cute I am :)
  • Lenn is always right :)
For those of you who don't think you can be prosecuted for copyright violations...You're wrong about that :)

TLW...ROAR!

4:20pm • #41
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John...

Although Public Domain images are Public do we really have the right to re-post those images?

From everything I've read permission to publish must be granted by someone. Yes?

Please correct me if I'm wrong. If you don't...Well...I can't learn :)

P.S. In the event John never returns...Could someone please clarify this for me. Thanks :) 

TLW...ROAR!

4:32pm • #42
Thanks for the info Rich. Im still kind of new here. Thanks again!
4:41pm • #43
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This is important and I have a question about videos.  When I did not produce a video I embed...does youtube they give you rights to share? Are we suppose to check the box that we didn't produce the video?

That is an area I don't understand.  If you think of a classic R&R song, I obviously didn't write Hey Jude but want to include the Beatles classic.  I think its still okay.  Correct me if I'm wrong here.  Thanks in advance.  (Any YouTube not produced by yourself would fall into this question.)

4:56pm • #44
Does this email we cannot use those google images?  oh my!
Pam
5:03pm • #45
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Precious TLW...

I will attempt to deal with Public Domain images next week.... 

5:10pm • #46
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Karen -  that's an excellent question. I was planning on tackling video/song copyrights next week as well. But that's a HUGE issue with the advent of all the videos being used by real estate professionals, and the ones being embedded thru YouTube. Check back next week, and I'll have the answer for you!...
5:14pm • #47
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I don't want to copy any of the earlier replies, so I will just say wonderful!
5:16pm • #48
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I don't want to copy any of the earlier replies, so I will say you should never plagerize, but you can use snippets and link to Heather Coker comments section so I don't get into trouble.  I'm learning.   

7:21pm • #50
Thanks for the roundup. It is easy to forget the rules.
7:28pm • #51
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Thanks for the updates on the "Do's and Don't" on blogging.

Sean Allen

8:01pm • #52
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Rich - You're telling us to insert a link to this post in the comments on a plagiarized post.  But, aren't we not supposed to confront other members?  Shouldn't we just flag the post?

There is a ton of plagiarism here on AR.  Some days there is so much that I just stop reading out of frustration.  Is anything being done?

8:06pm • #53
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Rich,

I'm glad you wrote about this at length. And got Lenn Harley involved, too. This is an issue that is abused quite a bit and hopefully those crossing the line will learn from what is here and grow up.

8:22pm • #54
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I hate to think of the number of illegal hot-linked pics that are on here.  I see some content swiping, but I know that there are a lot of people using Google Images a little too much. 

Hint: Creative Commons 

8:47pm • #55
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Always always always a great reminder Rich!  I just had someone plagiarize me on a message board.  They weren't trying to sell real estate or anything but it pissed me off and I went after them!
9:33pm • #56
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Darn, you have to pay to play no matter how cute.....gee...What is this world coming too....haha. This is definitely much needed. It's always good to have a refresher course.
9:56pm • #57
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Rich - Great reminders; this is the type of mistake many new members make.   Lenn certainly is a great resource on this subject.
11:03pm • #58
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Thanks for the guidelines, again, Rich. Lenn, as always, provides a very good explanation.
11:27pm • #59
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Thanks for the clarification.  It's always challenging to see your own work on someone else's page.  I guess it's flattery, but it's still wrong.
11:47pm • #60
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2008
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Don -  Yes, of course you can 'flag' the post. But it may also help to insert a link to this post, just as another measure to help curb the problem, and help educate those who don't know any better. Yes, much is being done. We work on this issue constantly. But good, clear guidelines made obvious upfront will be a huge help...
2:37am • #61
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Question regarding what you can use or not use on your blog.   If you are passing along an information website such as  the Visitor Center of your area, which gives out lodging, etc    Would this be allowed on an Active Rain Blog as a Hyper-Link.   Example:  Smith Mountain Lake Visitor Center   This is my chambers site and I am a member and we use this all the time to get the word out about our area.  
7:57am • #62
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Thanks for the guidelines. I have written a fair amount of my own content not only on my blog, but on my website. I also take all of my own pictures.
10:44am • #63
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Great way to clarify  - I like Lenn's snippet and link method best:)
12:12pm • #64
Great post! I don't think all the cutting and pasting is innocent. Some people are just not talented writers and want to get ahead with what is essentially stealing.
12:40pm • #65
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For those who do not have enough creative juices to write the words themselves....Just Don't Write!
2:30pm • #66
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Aloha Rich,

Thanks for the informative blog. It helps to have this information pointed out, regularly.

Peace,

2:41pm • #67
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Gracious Rich...

I think it would be an excellent idea to bump this post to the top of the featured list. 

What say you? :)

TLW...ROAR!

3:32pm • #68
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Rich - I see it in here all the time especially from agents in my own market areas here in NJ. And you know who I mean I suspect. But one thing I have not done and never will do is plagiarize anothers work. Or as you say "plariarized" lol Good stuff Rich keep up the great work. Bob H Oh and the spell checker aint workin. FYI
3:36pm • #69
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You are right, some people may not know it isn't ok, even if they give credit, but on the other hand, others use it to their benefit. Good post-no excuse for anyone to steal others' writing.

Carrie
2:49pm • #70
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2008
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Rich: So what do WE DO when we come across an AR-er who has cut and pasted an entire POST??? 

9:31am • #71
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Kat...

I can help with that. You can do one of two things...

1. Post a link to this article on the offending Blog post.

2. Flag the post.

Personally, I would just post a link and nothing but the link to this post. To say anything could be misunderstood as you disciplining another Member and that violates the AR Guidelines. We don't do that around here :)

TLW...ROAR!

10:23am • #72
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2008

Rich, the only pics that I use now are the ones I take.. Darn, I have not been taking any lately.  AJ

4:32pm • #73
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I definitely think that when signing up on Active Rain, there must be a checkbox about reading what PLAGIARISM is for new members during sign-up. i somewhat understand the demonstration of grace, however, I'm not really sure if anyone not have a clue on plagiarism especially what had happened to me this week. The thief copied and pasted my entire content as well as photos. Surely, no one in the right mind would think that's acceptable - especially copying and pasting someone else's content here on Active Rain?

No matter what, Rich.... Thanks for the help. It is greatly appreciated.

5:06pm • #74

Thank you for very helpful information regarding re-print and re-publish.  Definitely  needed in the real estate community, both in blogging and otherwise!

5:55pm • #75
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It is simply astounding how many people republish without permission. Just this week I saw a blog from a San Jose Realtor (not on Active Rain) who republished an article from the Washington Post!  She apparently thought that was OK because she included a byline and all - while still copying an entire article! Most news agencies would not tolerate that.

5:59pm • #76
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Gosh.  I just want to know how Lenn Harley got to be so smart.  Wish I could be like her when I grow up.  Problem is I am already grown up!  No hope!  Very informative post Rich.  Took me back to the days when I was a high school senior writing my first term paper.  The whole class received 'F's and had to rewrite all due to plagarism!  Good ole' Mrs. Leuchter......

7:21pm • #77

Thank you for the post.  I think I will review all my old posts to make sure that I have ever unintentionally committed this Crime.

8:16pm • #78
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EEEK!  Scary stuff!  Thanks so much.  I've got to check my posts for the images that shouldn't be there! 

It's fine to read all 97 pages of a new law and summarize it into 1 short blog, right?  Most people won't sit for 7 hours reading something.  I love to summarize some impossible document for people so they can get the points quick and easy to save them time and effort.

9:11pm • #79
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07
2008
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Thanks for bringing this topic up again.  I'm a big advocate of removing the copy-and-pasted material that's been reprinted without permission so much all across AR (mostly as an effort of lazy people to get points).  Here's an article I wrote if you want to red more on the subject.  I will definately be flagging more posts and leave this link as a helpful reminder to those that need it.  I hope AR does more to regulate the material once it has been flagged.  You should require written proof (an email) that they have permission to repost.  I have a folder in my email where I save all my permission to repost emails for my website in case anyone ever wants to question the matter. And always, ALWAYS give proper credit in the form of a link.

5:49am • #80

Awesome blog!  Always very tempting to use others' ideas, and not such a great idea to do so..... Thanks for reminding!!

Dagny Eason (William Raveis RE) (Wilton, CT)
11:30am • #81
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09
2008

Rich,  Where does the new RE-BLOG AR feature fall in all of this?  Mike

8:31am • #82
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12
2008
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So I want to write an article on the history of my area. I have read many articles in the newspaper and various publications through the years and now this knowledge resides in my head but originally it came from reading other sources, such as the historical article published in the newspaper weekly.

Rich, what do I do? After reading this, I am cautious to write the article. I won't be quoting any sentences, it will be my words, just the facts come from accumulated reading over the past 20 years :)

12:57pm • #83
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The first time I saw the 'reblog' article, copyright infringement immediately comes to mind.  Does reblog allow the member to copy but with permission?  Just a little confused here.

3:32pm • #84
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2008

I was reading some of the blogs here and would like to report this post as a total violation of your policy. plagerisim at its worse.

http://activerain.com/blogsview/491386/How-to-Erase_credit

taken from here

http://www.creditinfocenter.com/repair/inqerase.shtml

 

 

Kevin
3:19pm • #86
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2008
149,450 Points 2 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Attended Rain Camp

still need to do more reading on this one - i think i am ok but need to make sure. I usually link to the original content whenever I use something from someone else.

3:20pm • #87
SEP
21
2008
961,529 Points 12 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Hi Rich

Great post, the information is right on target and will help people to understand copy rights  laws.

Good luck and success

Lou Ludwig

4:34pm • #90

Rich,

As a new member to active-rain and the blogging world I wanted to thank you for the information. It is very helpful.

7:08pm • #91
OCT
30
2008
194,326 Points 29 Featured Posts Outside Blog

This is one subject I just don't GET! Why is it so difficult to understand that IF YOU DIDN'T WRITE IT...IT AIN'T YOURS? Hmmm...pretty simple to me. GBU!

7:25am • #92

Rich,

Your article is so timely, and I have a burning question for you before I possibly do something I"ll regret.  Rich, can you please let me know if my plans to do the following would be considered an infringement of copyright law?

Just yesterday my favorite mortgage broker (also on AR) and I agreed that it would be a win-win for me to rePUBLISH his A/R posts on my non-Active Rain Blog (I have an AR blog and an outside blog).  So let me be clear about this, we were planning to take his A/R content, publish it on my NON-A/R blog (NOT on my AR blog!) with full credit due him and links back to his AR blog on every post.  I have his express written permission and blessings.  Our thought that would be a win-win.  His A/R blog would get more hits and my outside blog would get the benefit of his knowledge. 

Rich, can you please let me know if this is considered a violation?  I certainly don't want to do anything we shouldn't be doing!

7:47am • #93

Thanks for the information - Your post is very consice & helpful!

Best, Dan

8:50am • #94
9:54am • #95
493,638 Points 222 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Dear Anonymous:   Jason Calacanis dealt with that issue previously....

10:06am • #96
493,638 Points 222 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Yolanda:  Our members elect/choose to allow their articles to be re-blogged. So they are granting other members expressed permission to repost them. Plagiarism is stealing (taking without permission) the intellectual property of another.

10:10am • #97

Excellent post Rich, thank you for the reminder of what not to do!

10:56am • #98

Thanks for the info.  I asked this of Lenn also - is it plagiarism to reprint an email that has been around and around?  Many times I receive an email with pictures, quotes, little quizes etc. and after they make the rounds in my office I see it on a blog on AR.  Is this ok or not?  And how about cartoons - political - just funny - from the funny papers.  I have a bunch of REALTOR comic strips from Hi & Lois that I was going to use and then reference with an original blog article - is it legal to copy in old comic strips?

Thanks - Kathy

10:56am • #99

Is re-blogging plagiarism? If so why do we have the re-blog feature?

 

Elizabeth Birmingham
11:05am • #100
OCT
31
2008

This is such an excellent and informative reminder to every blogger.  We have had problems in our local MLS when agents use the same photos and verbage from another agent's expired listing.  It's frustrating for those of us who take our own photos to see them showing up on someone else's listings!

Sandy Thompson
1:07pm • #101
NOV
08
2008
105,903 Points 1 Featured Post Localism Sponsor

There is a guy in my market area that cuts and pastes articles everday from the local paper and posts them as his own material. What can we do to stop this misuse?

8:48pm • #103
NOV
09
2008
493,638 Points 222 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Kelly:   Shoot me an email with the member's name, and I will look into it. Thanks!  rich at Activerain.com

1:08am • #104
NOV
11
2008
7 Featured Posts

I just left you a message Rich.  I just got points taken away and I STILL don't understand what I did.  I wrote all the content myself. I paid for the pictures and I did my own video.  The only thing I do understand that I did wrong was that I should not have posted it to the Realtor group.  How can I get help?  As a newbie I am pretty overwhelmed trying to learn everything and thought I did everything correct.  I wish they would give us a personal note or something telling us what we did wrong in plain english.  They connect me to three links and I could only figure out how it related to me in one of them.

Isn't there a better way of doing this.  It seems someone could look at a blog and know they are new to this whole AR thing and give them a little help and tell them what they did wrong BEFORE they take away points.  If someone would have told me what Idid wrong, I would have fixed it immediately--I still will if I can figure out what I did wrong.

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9:52am • #105
493,638 Points 222 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Tami:   It was really great talking to you by phone today. Hopefully we got everything worked out. Welcome to the Rain! I know you will come to enjoy and value your involvement here!

1:47pm • #106
NOV
13
2008
447,089 Points 28 Featured Posts Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Hi Rich,

As you may know, Bob and I are adding several agents to our office, and I am bumbling through the project of creating a new, current, relevant Policy and Procedure Manual.

May I please Copy and Paste some of your post here on copyright to use in the "Social Media" section of my Manual??    :-)

Thanks!!!!!!

8:07am • #107
493,638 Points 222 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Cheryl:   Absolutely! I would be honored to know it was being used for such a purpose!

8:12am • #108
SEP
07
2009
980,970 Points 81 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Rich,

You may be surprised to get today a comment to a post written in 2008. I came from Tim Maitski comment on my blog about plagiarism. I never read your blog, I just followed the common sense, common decency rule.

I find the blog post very important to confused souls, and it has not lost a bit of importance, any bit of relevance today.

Thank you

1:28am • #109
493,638 Points 222 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Jon:   A nice stroll down memory lane. Thanks for draggin' this one back up!...

3:13am • #110
SEP
08
2009
980,970 Points 81 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Rich,

I have seen some forms like Seller's disclosures, prepared by attorney, with a line to initial at each paragraph. Making sure than not only you read (or looked through) the  whole document, but forcing to pay attention to each line.

In the latest discussion, I was thinking that something like that, meaning your blog, would spare some troubles later on. As many others, I do not start with reading the rules or quidelines, I usually get to them when I am trying to figure whether I am getting into a hot water. Sometimes general decency rules help, but not always. I thought that  I understand the way it works, but your blog has more than what I could derive from logic of everyday life only.

Thanks

12:47am • #111
493,638 Points 222 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Jon:  If memory serves me, I think when people first sign-up to join AR, they are directed to the Community Guidelines, and are required to check a box that states that they've read them and agree to abide by them. The purpose of my series was to simply re-iterate what the Community Guidelines contained, and to expand upon their meaning....

1:18am • #112
980,970 Points 81 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Rich,

You might be right. It might be there. I might have forgotten, or when I signed up, maybe it was not yet there. Either way, very often I have to check that I have read and agree to the TOS, and i do it and I do not read it.

Just curious how many guys and gals actually read it.

Well, you gave me the idea for my next blog. Half of the points are yours, you are free to take them.

5:17pm • #113
JAN
02
2010
211,195 Points 5 Featured Posts Outside Blog

One of the agents in my market copies and pastes online news items on an almost daily basis. At least he (usually) includes a link to the article, which isn't necessary to follow, since he has posted the entire article on his blog!

When I think how hard I work to come up with original content, or at least paraphrase and consolidate market news for my blog, it really pisses me off.

 

11:07am • #114
FEB
18
2010

Thanks for all the info.  I am brand new to AR and keep hesitating to jump in as I am unsure of how to begin and do not understand all the rules of yet.  I am finding a lot of information and guidance from so many members, so thank you for your post.

Bonnie Augostino
11:16am • #115
JAN
10
2011
787,385 Points 20 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

plagiarism is a growing issue, hence the product growth such as Copyscape

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