Yesterday I turned in a new loan and 3 trees sacrificed their lives just for this event. Paperless? Yeah, RIGHT. In what life? Please do not let the organizers of Earth Day know that it takes as many trees to apply for your mortgage these days as it does to build the house you are buying.

The other mortgage brokers say we have just gone back to the good old days of fully documented loans. (yeah, painfully aware). I call just call it it EXTREME DOCUMENTATION.

What can you say when the file is already 3 inches thick by the time it is turned in?  I am making the assumption the Realtor also has a file 3 inches think, as does the title company. The file will still require a lender file, and hundreds of closing documents.

RIP, trees.

I am finally getting the idea that PART of the idea behind stated income loans was as simple as this: the need to move loans through the system FASTER. But now, we have the very same issues in this "slow" market. Why?

Because lenders and title companies have cut their staff to the absolute bones. At the same time, they have shifted from low documentation loans to extreme documentation loans. The result?

Loans take much L-O-N-G-E-R....... I still get embarrassed when a client signs application documents and mountains of disclosures for an hour, and then I send them off with a list of 75 more documents I will need...from tax returns to bank statements, to letters of explanation.

Paper and more paper.

Add into this mortgage stew the fact that we previously never arranged government loans here in the Bay Area. Now you not only have skeleton crews and 3 inch thick files, you also have a learning curve that is slowing the entire mortgage application process to a crawl, and even more documentation required.

I sat in a meeting yesterday and the bank rep claimed purchase contracts needed to be written for 60 days. This, when I used to be able to close a loan in 2 weeks.

"Ah yes", you are thinking, "but there are many fewer people buying houses". Correction. There are many fewer people who can "QUALIFY" to buy a house.  People are making applications in droves. 

Are houses not CHEAPER than they have been in years? Are rates not low? Has ANYONE in California decided they DON'T want real estate?

Applications are also being denied IN DROVES.  So let's see: 10 loans times 3 trees equals a whole forest. And that's just what's on MY desk this morning.

Earth Day, forgive us as forests fall in the name of something I call MORTGAGE MADNESS.

 

Written by Janet Guilbault, California Mortgage Expert Based Out of the San Francisco Bay Area.

 

 

 

 

 

 
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Janet.  You are so right.  Seems to me it shouldn't take any more paper to deny a loan than it does to approve one. 

60 days to approve a loan??  How can anyone justify that when DU is minutes? 

A 60 day loan approval is an invitation to a home buyer to get buyer's remorse.  Geez.  It took 60 days to get a loan approved in the 1980s.

 

10:22am • #1
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Hi Janet,

You are so right.  We figure that anytime we encounter a potential issue (read liability) we have to slap one more disclosure statement or waiver provision into our document package. 

We actually had a document review package a couple of years ago specifically to THIN our package because of over reaction and cut out quite a bit of paperwork.  I'll tell you, that felt so good.  It was better than spring cleaning! 

Great post, and great picture!

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Janet...so true!  When I first started in the industry a purchase contract was 2 pages.....today 20 years later with all the addendums its closer to 20 nevermind all the other documentation.......we should buy stocks in Filing Cabinets, Folders.......and office supplies.....hmm would that be Staples?
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Lenn: Passing through DU just gets it sent to the lender, not approved by (most) lenders. Some lender proclaim proudly that they are go purely on DU. But most have the dreaded OVERLAYS. Meaning, it may DU at 52% debt to income, but that does not mean the bank will approve the loan at anything over 45% debt to income.

Then you get into what kind of income IS acceptable. I have many files with all kinds of income ON the tax return that the banks do not consider "acceptable" income.

Underwriters ARE SO CAREFUL now that they own so many foreclosed properties. It is really over the top.

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Bill: I pray for the day we decide to thin out disclosures. I actually have clients laughing because of what I need to disclose. There is one disclosure that says, in essence, "you have chosen to deal with a mortgage broker and she will make money by doing this loan".

Geez, louise.

These disclosures are enough to scare away any client without a sense of humor.

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Liz: What gets me is what would it be like if we didn't have scanners and E-mail? Even though we have made progress we continue to regress into a paper nightmare.

Why do banks love paper so much? If they don't like something the first thing they do is ask for more paper. Do they hope the poor borrower gives up or something?

11:32am • #6
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Neat perspective!  I definately agree that paperless is definately not paperless!Happy Earthday!

 

Bob Mitchell

 

ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc. 

2:11pm • #7
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Happy Earthday to ou too, Bob.
2:32pm • #8
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You have a wonderful perspective on this and as much as our industry is going paperless, it isn't happening fast enough. And then there is the issue of those who would love to buy and can't... will that ever be fixed?
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Paperless....PAPERLESS....That been a buzz word for the last 15+ years. Yet, despite the good intentions of all, the paper IS STILL HERE!!!! In fact, in the face of new legislation and tighter requirements, we are going the wrong way!!! Here at 'The Home of the Big Deal'thick files are now divided in several files ( smith I, smith II, etc.) for neatness and appearance sake. TIMBER!!!! The culprit, as you accurately put, EXTREME DOCloans. Used to be full doc, lim doc, no doc, whats up doc?, hickory dickery doc, but not anymore. Enter the EXTREME DOC!I am seeing stips that I never even thought of.......There goes another letter to explain authorized user accounts on the credit...... Round and round she goes, where it stops nobody knows!

Happy Earth Day!

4:51pm • #10
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LOL at Scott! That's the best comment I've read all day!
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Smith1, Smith2, Smith 3...okay I am laughing here and thinking you should have been the one to write this post. You are hilarious.

You may be on the East Coast, I may be on the West Coast, but guess what? Same hickory, dickory doc....the house ran up the clock.

Pass the paper please, there will be no tress left after the mortgage crisis passes over. LOL

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Seriously, Jennifer, I could not agree more!!!!
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Such great insight Janet!  I always love reading your blogs.  I remember when I was originating during the refinance boom and how ream after ream would just disappear.  I remember even though some lenders would take pdf copies of the deals, we had to keep a copy in house, we had to make a copy packet for our home office, and of course the never ending condition list from the lender that would have 3 pages with 5 words on it and 2 pages of it full to the brim of words upon words!

Scott - Loved it!  I'm still laughing!

I feel so bad I'm going to plant a tree or a shrub now. 

5:35pm • #14
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Great post! That's a lot of information the public wouldn't have known. And regardless of how much information the lender needs, I still don't understand why the entire application process can't be handled online.
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