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85 Comments on Should the Buyer be responsible to turn on the power & water for utilities?
What are you griping about? These are REO properties; if the utilities are off, then price the offer accordingly.
The buyers I work with like ranch style homes, so there's no second-story plumbing to worry about.
Normally this is the order that it would happen (the would get just Temporary power for the day of the Inspections ONLY).
Nothing surprises me these days anymore!
If they really want the house they need to ask BEFORE making an offer:
1) what is my liability for turning on utilities for a property I don't own?
2) what are the fees associated with turning on utilities?
3) what are the past due bills for utilities?
4) is it worth it?
5) is this the house I want considering 1-4 above?
If so, do it.
CONGRATULATIONS LA$HAWN - YOUR FIRST FEATURED POST (and I know there are more to come)! What a timely topic and some outstanding responses. Wow, this is a sensitive situation with liability issues galore. I believe that the seller is responsible (even if it is a bank) to make the house available for a buyer to inspect and have the utilities on. I'm sorry, it is not the buyer's responsibility regardless of how good of a deal they might be getting.
LaShawn, From what I have seen in our marketplace, the listing agents for the REO's have been responsible for getting the electric and water turned on when a property is listed. I have an agent who currently has over $7,000 of his own money invested in lawn care, keys and locks and electric and water bills. This is the cost of doing business. They submit the bills monthly and are reimbursed. In fact the listing agent is REQUIRED by some of the banks to put the electric and water on as a condition to getting the listing! Something doesn't sound right if they are telling you it is up to the buyer or the buyers agent!
Hi I'd just like to comment.I am a buyer paying cash for a shortsale which is suppose to close tommorrow.In my case power and water were turned off and needed to be turned on for inspection.In my case the water dept requested that the realtor submit proof that it was for a inspection and the water was turned on no charge for one day.I paid to have electric turned on.
Now get this,there is a $1600 water bill pass due on the property.The water dept will not turn it on under a new account for the new owner (potentially me) until the balance is paid off.The bill did show up on the title abstract but the bank is playing games now saying the owner (the people loosing the house) are responsible for paying the bill.LOL they aren't going to pay it they lost the house...
So the bank and sellers agent are beating around the bush about this water bill,and I'm not going to buy the house until the bill is paid.I am buying as is,but that doesn't mean assuming someone's $1600 water bill.I can't believe this is happening.
Thoughts?
Hi,
As a Buyer's Agent, I must first apologize to you for the craziness that you are facing. This real estate market is hurting for buyers and yet when there is one, things like this become road blocks! While I am no attorney, I would say that yes, the current owners are responsible for the utility bills...but if they aren't paying the mortgage, they aren't going to pay a $1600 water bill...which means that the seller's lender needs to pay it in order for their to be clear title so that you can purchase.
If I were you, I'd refuse to pay it too...if the bank wants to proceed with the foreclosure, they will have to hire an attorney and go through the entire foreclosure process, which will cost them at least $50k...only to still be responsible in the end for the utility bill.
Yikes...what a mess. I feel for you.
I'd love to know what the final outcome is...please stop back by when it's resolved and let me know how it was handled.
Best of luck to you!
i think its wrong to exect the buyer to pay for the ultilitys. the listing agent should be the one to pay for them. i feel very strongly about this.as im in a situation where im waiting to do my home inspection and the listing agent wont turn on ultilitys for the inspector. im suspecting a back owed bill but no one is telling me anything except i have to reschedule my inspection againg due to ultilitys not being turned on by listing agent.ive been trying for three weeks to get my inspection.either theres a problem or i have the worlds lazyest listing agent. either way buyers should not be left in the dark about whats going on. pay the darn bill or at very least let the buyer be aware of whats happening,and dont leave the buyer in the dark about whats going on like ive been.i suppose im going to have to go to the broker to find out the problem.this should be taken care of so buyers dont have problems like this in the first place.
In most cases the home has been sitting vacant for months with no guarantee it will sell so I can understand why a Seller in financial trouble, and can't pay their own utilities, wouldn't want to pay to maintain utilities in a vacant home. I think a serious Buyer would understand that paying less than $100 to start utility service is part of their closing costs.
In my opinion the listing agent has no responsibility at all to provide utilities for a Buyer that wants to do an inspection to protect their own interest.
A pre-inspection of the plumbing and electrical components when deciding to make an offer can be done without utility service. The full inspection can take place near the end of the transaction usually within 2 weeks of closing. Why wouldn’t the Buyer just turn on the utilities and leave them on instead of having two turn ons and a disconnect if the Seller has to get involved? Not cost effective. Once again, in my opinion, the Buyer needs to have the expectation up front, that if and when they get a short sale approval, they need to be ready to turn on and leave on (turn off at main disconnects for safety) the utilities do their inspection, and decide if they are going to accept the home or not.
Dwight,
My post was written more than 3 years ago, when it wasn't as common for Buyers to absorb the responsibility and the cost of restoring utilities. In today's times, it's not only more accepted, it's often the only way to get a contract to move forward. I would, however, highly recommend that agent's and the Buyer's they represent get a Hold Harmless agreement signed by the Seller in the event there is a flood, fire or some other issue that arises as a result of the utilities being turned back on!
And I agree, inspections upfront are helpful to not only determine if the Buyer wants to proceed with the sale, but also to help shape an offer based on the findings of the inspection results. If the home requires repairs not readiy obserable, the offer can be structured with a 203K/renovation loan or the offer price can be reflective of what's needed.