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DC 800k Tuesday Jan 26, 2016

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 DC population

 Currently, there are over 658,000 people living in Washington, DC with more tha 5.4 million in the greater DC Metro area.

This was a smaller city, and then a larger city, those changes being within living memory of some of our citizens still. In 1915, DC was home to 361,000 people.  At the height of WWII, the city was home to 900,000 people.Suburban growth came at the expense of the city, such that there were only 572,000 people in DC proper in 2000.  Fifteen year later, today we are just under 659,000 people in the city itself.

The city is getting ready to grow even more.  Projections are showing 807,000 people in DC by 2030.  The DC metro area is expected to be 7.4 million by 2030.

District race & age 2030

Generations have debated racial complexion of DC, there is no wisdom I can add to that.  The city itself was majority African American, though this is no longer fully true as the city continues to reflect national trends.  The demographics are interesting in that the city continues to skew younger, a trend which is expected to continue to 2030.  This aggressive growth is more symptomatic of Southern & Western cities, but is built on the infrastructure of a much older East Coast city.

As a resident, I am concerned that we are not keeping pace. We've not build subways or other transportation modes in the past 20+ years.  Biking has become more common, though we are still very reliant on cars, and they need roads, parking, or an enticement to get people out of them.  There is also the slight issue of no skyscrapers in DC itself (though that legal restriction doesn't apply to the suburbs in Maryland & Virginia, which will help ease pressure for the DC Metro growth).

This growth will need to be planned & coordinated by DC government as well as Mayland and Virginia.  Oftentimes, the Federal government also gets involved, due to their share of land ownership & labor needs.

There have been good developments in DC in the past 15 years which have allowed for higher density projects. Some of those people will be at the event below.  There have also been good development projects in some of the close-in suburbs, which does allow hope.

DC 800k flyer smaller

This coming Tuesday, the DC Office of Planning is hosting an event:

Preserving and Planning for Progress

How we plan for 800,000 people while preserving our history

Tuesday Jan 26, 2016  5pm-8pm

Carnegie Library at Mt Vernon Square

801 K St NW

Washington DC 20001

Due to the storm, it would be prudent to ensure this isn't rescheduled.  You can register here.

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data & images from Washingtonian Magazine(2015-01-22) and from DC Office of Planning press release; chart from Google capture of US Census Bureau

Posted by

Claude Labbe, Realty for Your Busy Life

Real Living | At Home
11 Dupont Circle #650
Washington, DC 20036
(202) 518-8781 bus / (703) 868-7774 mobile
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Troy Erickson AZ Realtor (602) 295-6807
HomeSmart - Chandler, AZ
Your Chandler, Ahwatukee, and East Valley Realtor

Claude - Interesting to read how DC grew, then slowly got smaller, and now is growing, and predicted to grow through 2030. Proper planning for that growth will be essential.

Jan 26, 2016 02:38 AM
Claude Labbe

We are all going to benefit from proper planning, or all suffer from the lack of planning.

Jan 27, 2016 01:08 PM
John Meussner
Mortgages in AZ, CA, CO, DE, FL, GA, IN, MD, MN, MT, NC, NJ, NV, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WI - Fair Oaks, CA
#MortgageMadeEasy Fair Oaks, CA 484-680-4852

Interesting info Claude.  Growth is wonderful, but unless infrastructure can keep ahead of the curve, it can become a hinderance to improvement of an area.

Jan 26, 2016 04:08 AM
Claude Labbe

There's also going to be a problem if some counties are not in agreement.  There are several counties in Virginia and at least 2 counties in Maryland that all need to be in step with DC.  This is not yet a smooth certainty. Several points of coordination will have political considerations.

Jan 27, 2016 01:10 PM
Kimo Stowell
HI Pro Realty LLC RB-21531 - Honolulu, HI
REALTOR Associate® RS-76763 - Honolulu Hawai'i

Aloha Claude, vision, forethought, development planning and balancing growth is a major challenge for any large metropolis. With a city full of lawyers, politicians, and lobbyists, DC is lucky that most of the ne're-do-wells live in Maryland or Virginia.

Jan 26, 2016 06:11 AM
Claude Labbe

I think you've lived here before, and so surely you know, for every lawyer or developer or lobbyist who wants one direction, there's an equal number of lawyers or developers or lobbyists who want a different direction.  Gridlock can at times be costly on a timeline, because growth waits for no one.

Jan 27, 2016 01:12 PM
Joanna Cohlan
Fresh Eyes For Your Home - Chappaqua, NY
Designing, Decorating & Staging Westchester Homes

Such an important meeting Claude and btw, all of our cities on the east coast, are in a very similar position.  Very difficult because of crumbling infrastructure that is over 250 years old.  Urban planning needs to gain greater respect and importance so that our cities continue to stay alive and thrive!

Jan 26, 2016 09:34 AM
Claude Labbe

Continually stunned when I am back in Boston or when I see NY and realize what growth they are achieving, yet what challenges they nonetheless face.  This is also true for the smaller cities, but their scales aren't as daunting to me.

Jan 27, 2016 01:13 PM
Patricia Feager, MBA, CRS, GRI,MRP
DFW FINE PROPERTIES - Flower Mound, TX
Selling Homes Changing Lives

Claude Labbe - this raises concerns for all cities and communities in the United States. There has to be some guidelines, infrastructure, planning for schools, roads, hospitals - it's not just about construction of homes and commercial buildings. If they continue to build - they will come. But at what expense to all the people. Time is not replaceable. Infrastructure, roads, bridges, water consumption - all this and more needs to be part of the plan. 

This is one of my favorite posts.

Jan 27, 2016 07:41 PM
Claude Labbe

Patricia Feager, MBA, GRI, Cert Negotiations Expert, Military Relo Prof Glad I made it to your hit list.


Exactly correct.  If over building then means that more trains need to run to support the demand, then someone better tell the train/subway people. Hence, planning.

Jan 28, 2016 01:58 PM
Georgie Hunter R(S) 58089
Hawai'i Life Real Estate Brokers - Haiku, HI
Maui Real Estate sales and lifestyle info

Very interesting to learn about DC as I haven't been there. Everywhere is growing too fast it seems.

Jan 28, 2016 05:12 PM
Claude Labbe

Georgie Hunter R(S) I've not been to Hawaii either; maybe we should swap homes for a week.  I'm expecting we'd both enjoy.

Jan 29, 2016 01:14 PM
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Claude, DC and the metro area sure is growing.  It sure wasn't that large back in the mid-70's when I was there. 

Jan 28, 2016 09:34 PM
Claude Labbe

Joan Cox Having gotten here in the mid 1990's, it felt like I'd come to a Southern town, a gentler kinder town.  In the past 20 years, the people seem to have gotten more aggressive, more tense, more Northern.  And I say that as a Northerner myself. Maybe I need to slip down into the Carolina's now.

Jan 29, 2016 01:15 PM
Wayne Zuhl
Remax First Realty II - Cranford, NJ
The Last Name You'll Ever Need in Real Estate

Hi Claude,

This was a really interesting read.  Thank you for sharing!

Jan 29, 2016 05:12 AM
Claude Labbe

Wayne and Jean Marie Zuhl Fully aware that you people in NJ have been wrestling for years with this density & quality of life balance.

Jan 29, 2016 01:16 PM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

Claude- very interesting information about one of my favorite cities.  I grew up in Houston where the roads could not keep up with the growth.  Freeways were constantly under construction and there was no good mass transportation.  Everyone drove cars. 

Jan 29, 2016 10:23 AM
Claude Labbe

Kathy Streib Does it matter that DC has one of the largest bike-share programs in the country?  A few thousand less cars on the road.  Have you gotten any bike share programs in Palm Beach?  It may be a different approach than freeways, but with enough different solutions, maybe density can be better managed.

Jan 29, 2016 01:19 PM
Kathy Streib

Claude Labbe I know that WPB has a bike share program.  I'm not sure about Houston, though. Texans do love their cars. 

Jan 30, 2016 09:42 AM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

 

                         Thank you Claude Labbe for my ah - ha moment. 

Jan 30, 2016 09:42 AM
Claude Labbe

now I get to see myself in your weekly highlights.  Thank you.

Jan 30, 2016 01:40 PM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

I wasn't aware of how things shifted in DC, but am not surprised to hear about the predictions for the future growth. One thing for sure...the city can't expand except up, as far as I know

Jan 30, 2016 03:13 PM
Claude Labbe

Jeff Dowler CRS exactly, we can't go up because the gods of Congress have jurisdictional responsibility over the District.  Close in suburbs (Arlington, Tysons, Bethesda) are sprouting which should help alleviate some of the regional pressure.

Feb 03, 2016 01:21 PM
Sheila Anderson
Referral Group Incorporated - East Brunswick, NJ
The Real Estate Whisperer Who Listens 732-715-1133

Good morning Claude. What a fascinating history of Washington DC. The growth however may not have kept pace as you mention. I look forward to hearing about this meeting.

Jan 30, 2016 10:26 PM
Claude Labbe

Sheila Anderson The interesting part of this, which isn't discussed in the post, is the reasons for the growth.  In the 1940-60's, government was growing quickly.  Than it was Defense. Now, it's biotech in Maryland and hi-tech in Virginia.

Feb 03, 2016 01:23 PM
Kristin Johnston - REALTOR®
RE/MAX Platinum - Waukesha, WI
Giving Back With Each Home Sold!

I am glad that I did not miss your post thanks to Kathy's summary!  Great stuff!

Jan 30, 2016 10:49 PM
Claude Labbe

Kristin Johnston, Waukesha County Realtor 414-254-6647 I have to agree, the fun thing about following Kathy Streib is she is also pointing out so many good things other people are doing.

Feb 03, 2016 01:24 PM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Hi Claude -- I came here via the weekly haha and lightbulb moment post by Kathy Streib.   Although my stay in Washington was relatively short(about three years in the mid 1980s) I enjoyed the city.   My last visit was about five years ago and it certainly had changed...a lot...

As others have stated this is an issue facing many cities in our country even in a relatively new place like Los Angeles -- infrastructure, gentrification, changing demographics and more need to be addressed.    Sooner than later.   I hope the meeting had a good turnout.

Jan 31, 2016 12:08 AM
Claude Labbe

It's going to be a long and iterative process, but there is hope in that the process is being discussed and planned, rather than to simply let it happen piecemeal.


As a northerner myself, I have to admit I'm not exactly pleased as the city has gotten noticeably more northern in my 20 years here.  Michael Jacobs did you notice that as well?

Feb 03, 2016 01:26 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Claude, it's interesting how people in so many neighborhoods zoned primarliy for single family homes are fighting anything to make the city denser, but density is going to have to increase because there isn't a whole lot of land left!

Jan 31, 2016 12:23 AM
Claude Labbe

Patricia Kennedy Increasing density in the city should help DC manage many of their financial issues.  Otherwise, we'll be sprawling to the WV and PA borders sooner rather than later, with Metro extensions to Frederick, MD

Feb 03, 2016 01:27 PM
Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner
Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395 - Mission Viejo, CA
Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395

That's really interesting. I do hope that the historic buildings are preserved. 

Jan 31, 2016 01:01 AM
Claude Labbe

Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner There are some 17 Historic Districts in the city at the moment, some of which are quite large (Georgetown, Capitol Hill), and so, the iconic parts will be retained. 


As was mentionned above, no skyscrapers either.  I'd not expect significant changes to the tourist postcard views any time soon.

Feb 03, 2016 01:29 PM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Claude what a wealth of knowledge and information in this post, clearly this was some of our discussion from the other day and it is happening nationwide and do not see an answer or a solution in the near term....Endre

Jan 31, 2016 03:01 AM
Claude Labbe

Endre Barath, Jr. Growth can be a very good thing, I'd argue that to not have growth leads to much worse problems.  However, managed & planned growth is much prefered to unplanned, developer-fueled growth without regard to the city's needs.

Feb 03, 2016 01:31 PM
Cindy Edwards
RE/MAX Checkmate - Johnson City, TN
CRS, GRI, PMN - Northeast Tennessee 423-677-6677

Crazy growth.  We watch DC in our market to have an idea of Nations capital, and compare each month to ours.

Jan 31, 2016 05:54 AM
Claude Labbe

We have a skewed market, as do several coastal cities.


Many who relocate to here are happy, but just as many who relocate out are happy too.

Feb 03, 2016 01:32 PM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Claude Labbe - as long as they don't touch the buildings that have historic values.

And going over 800K in less than 15 years from now is less than 2% a year growth. Is it too much?

Jan 31, 2016 03:50 PM
Claude Labbe

Praful Thakkar Yup, 2% is way too much, very unsustainable for any period of time.  The Metro(subway) is 40 years old; the freeways are much older. And those systems were built for patterns which don't represent how we live today.


So, yes, 2% without planning is a killer.


Don't financial planners always tell us of the value of compound interest?

Feb 03, 2016 01:35 PM