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Meth House

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with New Paradigm Partners LLC EB #1326335

A couple of months ago we listed our first meth house.

 

We got a call from a long time client investor and friend with whom we have done many deals over the years - let's call him Lloyd. Lloyd wanted to sell a rental home he had purchased with us 12 years ago, one that had had a very long-term tenant. The house was pretty beat up and was going to need a bunch of work before listing, and while Lloyd was meeting with a contractor, one of the neighbors came by to chat.

 

Meth UserDuring that conversation, the neighbor mentioned that the tenant was a "tweaker". Lloyd had no idea what that meant, but soon learned that his tenant was a methamphetamine addict. Lloyd's reaction to that just reinforced all the reasons he was already one of our favorite all-time clients.

 

He immediately called us and told us the news, and wanted to have the home tested for meth. No hesitation, no question - it was the right thing to do. And we have all heard the stories about home owners in similar situations who just covered up the evidence, but that never occurred to Lloyd.

 

The test results were better than they could have been. The tenant was a user, not a manufacturer, and the use had apparently been confined to just one room. Lloyd hired a remediation company and had the property remediated to EPA standards. The whole process - testing and remediation - cost $8,000. And following that, there was the work that needed to be done to make the home ready for the market.

 

Once that was completed, Lloyd faced, and passed with flying colors, an interesting challenge. Colorado has what we believe is a bad meth law - once a property has been fully remediated, there is no requirement for disclosure. Mary and I strongly disagree with this and knew we'd never list a home for a seller who refused to disclose meth presence. Lloyd didn't test our resolve - he insisted on full disclosure. It was the right thing to do.

 

(And right now, we know of two homes on the market that have been remediated and are being marketed without disclosure - imagine that you're the buyer of one of those homes, getting the inevitable news at some point after you have closed and moved in.)

 

We got the home ready, listed it and got it under contract quickly. We'll be closing it next week, and everyone is happy. And Lloyd is pretty much #1 in our book of favorite clients.

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Mary & Dick

Mary & Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC
2601 S. Lemay Ave. #41
Fort Collins, CO 80525
970-689-4663
www.maryanddick.com

 

Data Source: IRES MLS

Comments(71)

John Mosier
Realty ONE Group Mountain Desert - Prescott, AZ
Prescott's Patriot Agent 928 533-8142

Thanks for your great post, Dick Greenberg. Thankfully, I have not encountered that problem before. It is always best to err on the side of disclosure. Glad to hear you were working with a Seller who was so "up-front" about the disclosure.

Feb 21, 2016 01:51 AM
Ginger Harper
Coldwell Banker Sea Coast Advantage~ Ginger Harper Real Estate Team - Southport, NC
Your Southport~Oak Island Agent~Brunswick County!

Glad you made it thru this one.  It is hard to deal with Meth houses in our area..

 

Feb 21, 2016 04:43 AM
Rose Mary Justice
Synergy Realty Pros - Dandridge, TN
Synergy Realty Pros


Wow I cannot imagine not disclosing what you know.  Necessary here.  Glad it all worked out for you. Congrats on the contract and feature.

Feb 21, 2016 06:38 AM
Jon Paul
Realty World Lake Tahoe - South Lake Tahoe, CA
Real estate agent serving South Lake Tahoe.

Great story Dick. Ethics go a long way in this world (don't tell our current presidential candidates). You kept a long term client and undoubtedly got the right buyer in the house. Nice work.

Feb 21, 2016 11:27 AM
Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Great story Dick!  I love it when clients do the right thing without even having to be asked!

Feb 21, 2016 12:20 PM
Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

I deeply respect honest investors. Imagine that the seller is a bank, they would paint it over and no disclosures. 

Feb 21, 2016 03:31 PM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

It is always important to do the right thing in life. Thank you for the great story.

Feb 21, 2016 08:12 PM
Nicole Doty - Gilbert Real Estate Expert
Zion Realty - Gilbert, AZ
Broker/Owner of Zion Realty ZionRealtyAZ.com

Unfortunately, Maricopa County where Gilbert is located, was the Meth capital of the Country for many many years. I'm not sure where we rank now but I bet we're still in the top 5. Gilbert never had a problem with it but I've been in a handful of meth houses both pre and post rehab. 

Feb 22, 2016 12:00 AM
Belinda Spillman
Aspen Lane Real Estate Colorful Colorado - Aurora, CO
Colorado Living!

Wow that was a crazy ride.  So glad you have an upstanding client who does not play games.  Disclosure is the best way to go for everyone.

Feb 22, 2016 03:20 AM
Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

Wow...interesting story, and I agree with you about our state's meth disclosure law. It's like the post I did about my buyer finding out the previous owner had died in the house. It was a shock to him, and he doesn't like it. 

Feb 22, 2016 07:31 AM
Sussie Sutton
David Tracy Real Estate - Houston, TX
David Tracy Real Estate for Buyers & Sellers

That is scary to think that someone could move into a home that was contaminated with meth or any other thing that would get someone else sick.

Feb 22, 2016 10:15 AM
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

Here in NH, the seller must disclose if they know meth is present. I have had the unpleasurable experience of being near knocked out when it was not disclosed, it was not anything i would ever want to go through again, 

Feb 22, 2016 08:56 PM
Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - Wanda Can!
Red Rock Real Estate (435) 632-9374 - St. George, UT
St. George Utah Area Residential Sales Agent

I'd want to know and would take the same route you and your client did Bill. Full disclosure.

Feb 22, 2016 11:21 PM
Melissa Jackson REALTOR
Trinity Premier Properties - Azle, TX
Helping You Make The Right Move

Always nice to have a client that wants to do the right thing.  I'm sure many homeowners don't disclose. Glad you have it under control. Congratulations!

Feb 23, 2016 12:36 PM
Melinda (Mel) Peterson
Grants Pass, OR - Bend, OR
The Savvy Broker - ABR, CRS

Great story, great client, great result!  In Oregon, the Seller's Property Disclosure asks the following question:

Has the property ever been used an an illegal drug manufacturing or distribution site?  If yes, was a Certificate of Fitness issued?

Feb 23, 2016 01:37 PM
Michael Kaim
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Professional Realty - Mentor, OH
Real Estate team serving the Cleveland Area

Very interesting post.. Dick Greenberg 

Feb 23, 2016 07:19 PM
Gayle Rich-Boxman Fishhawk Lake Real Estate
John L Scott Market Center - Birkenfeld, OR
"Your Local Expert!" 503-739-3843

Gotta say that this is a first...didn't know about how to deal with this, Dick, a real eye-opener. You guys draw the type of client you deserve; honest, forthright, ones with high integrity. I sure LOVE honest people! 

Congrats on the feature. 

Feb 23, 2016 08:36 PM
Christopher Lotte
Coldwell Banker - Lithopolis, OH
Central Ohio Real Estate Agent, 614-390-9243

Very informative Dick Greenberg 

Feb 24, 2016 08:14 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Dick, Lloyd is the best kind of seller.  It's great when you have clients who insist on doing the right thing.

Feb 25, 2016 01:59 PM
Lynn B. Friedman CRS Atlanta, GA 404-617-6375
Atlanta Homes ODAT Realty - Love our Great City - Love our Clients! Buckhead - Midtown - Westside - Atlanta, GA
Concierge Service for Our Atlanta Sellers & Buyers

Dick Greenberg 
Great story - wonderful Agents and wonderful Client! All the best - Lynn

Feb 26, 2016 09:41 AM