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Fill in the blank in this poll.  There ought to be a law against __________ on ActiveRain. 

 



What belongs on ActiveRain?  What does not?

Jokes?  Paid content? Recipes?  Animated gifs? Market reports? I've read people riled up over all those and more on ActiveRain... 

Neal Bloom and I discussed Jokes in the comments on the ActiveRain Guidelines post recently. Neal doesn't believe ActiveRain should allow jokes.  Neal wrote:

Joker - Jester "personally I don't agree they should be posted...they are not industry related and to me don't seem to fit the social criteria either. Also ...who knows if they are actually the posters jokes. Maybe they are just copying the joke from somewhere...if they are such good original joke tellers then maybe they missed their calling...I see more of this...it's just another way to game the system for points....ego whatever.

Free Speech and all that stuff...

I don't post jokes.  I don't read jokes.  I probably would never even leave a comment on a blog that was just a joke because I would not want to encourage jokes.... but I will defend the rights of the ActiveRain jokers to post jokes as long as there is not a rule against posting jokes. Should a post that is just a joke "cut and pasted"  to ActiveRain get points?  That's another discussion.

What is on topic on a real estate network?

Is ActiveRain staying "on topic" important to you? It's a Real Estate Network why is a video about eating raw fishJester doing cartwheels more popular than NAR videos about ethics? Rich Jacobson wrote of Videos on ActiveRain:

"And just for the record:

The Most Popular Video thus far?

"How to Eat Sushi"

The Least Popular?

The National Association of Realtors Code of Ethics (go figure!)

Glad to know we all have our priorities straight!"

I posted this entry in "ActiveRain Community" I'd expect jokes to be filed in "Off topic, humor, etc "  I believe that has been an option since I've been an ActiveRain member.

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Comments(143)

James Jeter
Cardinal Financial Company, Limited Partnership - Carrollton, TX
James Jeter

I've attended network parties, functions, and many other events through out my sales career.  While most of these events have a main topic, each conversation is unique.  Not everyone talks about marketing ideas, or growing your business, or ways to educate yourself.  While those topics may come up, other topics arise as well when you get two or more people talking.  Networking is about sharing information and building relationships.  What better way to get to know someone than building rapport by telling a joke, sharing a recipe, sharing a moving story, or even talking about your kids.  Active Rain is about allowing professionals to learn from each other.  Whether it's about real estate, website, SEO, mortgages, credit repair, home staging, or even someone's favorite movie or song, networking is about building relationships, professional and personal.  Active Rain allows us to share who we are with others, and our character and personality shine through our choice of groups we join and blogs we post.  Personally, I'd like to know if my realtor or loan officer I'm referring my clients to have a sense of humor.  I'd like to know if he likes baseball or prefers football.  I'd like to know if he's a child of a war veteran.  I want to deal with people I like and what to know more about them and Active Rain allows us to do this.  We get to see a glimmer of everyone in every blog and every comment which allows us to want to read their blogs and learn from them as well.  Active Rain is for networking:  sharing ourselves with others for mutual benefit.  Maybe a joke isn't beneficial for you, but after a long day of rejections sometimes a good laugh is what I need.

May 02, 2008 08:22 PM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

James thanks for the comment you said: 

"Personally, I'd like to know if my realtor or loan officer I'm referring my clients to have a sense of humor."

I think mine is pretty good. I told my first Knock Knock joke on ActiveRain the other day

"I'd like to know if he likes baseball or prefers football."

she likes football... not as much as the rest of Columbus but I like it..

"I'd like to know if he's a child of a war veteran."

WWII 

I think I liked the premise of Rich's post better before he clarified it: 

"What I've observed lately within our community are members who publish very little, if any, real estate oriented content to their blogs. Since this a network for Real Estate Professionals, our primary focus should be generating good, quality relevant content that is related to real estate. This benefits everyone. It offers the exchange of helpful/practical expert advice among fellow professionals; it serves to educate consumer readers; and it keeps the Google spiders fat and happy! Of the five categories I mentioned, four of them are specific to real estate.  If you're only posting 'off-topic' material most of the time, then perhaps you should consider finding a social network that focuses on that particular topic? I apologize if my point wasn't clear enough. "

I think balance is good.   I hope ActiveRain tires to encourage the behavior they want on ActiveRain rather than discourage jokes, reipes etc.  It will be interesting to watch.

May 02, 2008 09:07 PM
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San Diego, CA
One could argue that most of the content on AR is a joke.
May 04, 2008 03:28 AM
Jimmy Breazeale
Sherlock Home Inspections - Coldwater, MS

Maureen,

I voted against cutting and pasting.  Being Southern, and, more specifically, Mississippian, I hold original literary content in high regard, and copycats are, IMHO, lower than a snake in a wagon rut, the bland and unimaginative purveyors of the false impression.  If cut-and-pasters ever had an idea of their own, they'd do a Google search to find out if anyone else had ever had that idea.  Having successfully googled it up, and therefore being comforted that the idea has legitimacy, such folks will then cut-and-paste the discovered material into their AR blog.  The rationale must go something like this: 1) I have an IDEA!!! 2) Let me check and see if anyone else has had this idea 3) Yep!  There it is, right on the 'search results' page! 4) Must be a good, or at least legitimate idea 5) I have no writing skills 6) Since I thought of this idea all by myself, it's ok if I lift the text from this other guy's musings.

As for the rest of the poll items, well, we all gotta eat, and we all gotta laugh.  Otherwise, we'd all be starving and insane, and it's hard to make sense out of those market reports when you're hungry and nuts!

May 04, 2008 05:17 AM
Jacki & Jerry Shafer
The Shafer Real Estate Team, Keller Williams Louisville East - Crestwood, KY
The Shafer Team, Call 502-643-SOLD
I agree to Maureen.  The content should be overwhelmingly real estate related, but people want to know that you are MORE than just a Realtor.  People want to get to know the human side of you, too.
May 04, 2008 10:12 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

Jimmy but Joan Mirantz wrote: "Recipes...I have posted a few but constant posting sitting with a cookbook on your lap says point whore to me too! "

Are AR recipe sharers typing out the recipes from the book?  Or using "cut and paste" from online recipe sources? Recipes and jokes are probably the biggest  "cut and paste" meterial on ActiveRain.  I think within a well written post there is nothing wrong with "cut and copy" of a joke or a recipe.  I think there are some good examples of that in your group. I think your group encourages the posters to put some personality in their posts.  You can't cut and paste personality into an entry...

This is probabaly more an anwer to your comment on my newer post about recipes...too now that I think about it. 

I think a lot of people have different concepts of what "cut and paste " is. 

Thanks all for the comments.

May 04, 2008 10:50 PM
Jimmy Breazeale
Sherlock Home Inspections - Coldwater, MS
Maureen.....Well, as I've stated before, recipes really aren't my thing, although it is well-known that I like to eat. All the recipes I have posted in Suthurn Thangs are entirely my own, developed by years of culinary experimentation, often at the expense of dear friends and loved ones.  I only posted the ones that are actually edible, and have been well-received.....and that includes my Fried Tree Rat.  I've never purchased a recipe book in my life, and the only place I've ever written one down is right here on good ol' Active Rain.  Even then, I only did so because everyone else in Suthurn Thangs was doing it.  I guess you could call me a social recipeer.  But as a rabid defender of the First Amendment, I believe it is everyone's right to write recipes til' the buzzards come to roost...in other words, I may not like your recipe, but will defend to the (symbolic) death your right to post it!  :-)
May 05, 2008 04:06 PM
Ted Baker
Carmody and Associates LLC - Winter Haven, FL
MidFloridaMediation.com

You certainly hit a nerve with this one, Maureen.  130 comments and climbing.

With 87,000 + members and more groups that I can count, I would think we were a pretty big tent with room for everybody but child molestors and terror cells.

There are several ways to navigate in the Rain and the group system should permit you to pick and choose what you want to read and avoid topics you find less interesting.  If you don't find a group for your particular interest - start one.

As long as no laws are broken - I see no reason to limit what somebody else wants to talk about.  If nobody reads it, the author will not stay long. 

May 09, 2008 10:44 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

Thanks for the comments Jimmy and Ted.  It suprises me sometimes how critical some members are of groups on ActiveRain but that's a whole nuther story. I say let Jonathan, Bob, Rich, Matt etc. worry about the big picture... I will just worry about my little territory on AR (my blog, my profile) and the groups I moderate.

May 11, 2008 07:26 AM
Angela Clark
Tony Clark REALTORS - Owensboro, KY
CRS, Realtor, Broker

Hey Maureen, I agree: the cut and paste thing is irritating. I would hope our bloggers would desire original content.  But then again, it's about those points, isn't it?  Keep doing what you're doing. It's appreciated. :->

May 15, 2008 06:23 AM
Darleen McCullen
Raleigh, NC
Broker - Raleigh, NC Real Estate

Interesting post. I found it especially interesting that the NAR Code of Ethics was the least popular video, especially since we are a community of real estate professionals.

I like being on ActiveRain because there is a variety of topics - not just real estate related. Allowing posters to write about a variety of topics shows a different side of their personalities - not just real esate.

Jul 05, 2008 02:04 PM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

I think Rich J.. was surprised... he wrote:

The Most Popular Video thus far?

"How to Eat Sushi"

The Least Popular?

The National Association of Realtors Code of Ethics (go figure!)

Glad to know we all have our priorities straight!"

 

and I did check out the sushi video and NOT the NAR video... based on that.   ActiveRain members... as a group are pretty smart, even if they don't have their priorities straight...   and I don't even like sushi..

Jul 06, 2008 09:07 AM
Mary Strang
Viroqua, WI

Maureen: No offense but my advise is don't visit the groups that annoy you and be thankful there are groups for those who enjoy jokes or whatever. What makes me happy is to to see that certain Bloggers would just keep the right post in the right group, as I think that is what a group is about.

I personally just discovered the recipe group and have enjoyed reading them and actually just make one of them for dinner the other night! Yummy it was good... I think I might just break down and cut and paste a few into a new marketing piece I could call Famous Realtor Recipes from AR.  This is a joke, oops, should be posted in the joke group :-(

Anyway... I do think someone should open a group called Your Market Report and of course we all agree there is a need for the Cheater Group for Cut and Paste afflicted Realtors. It would not matter what was posted there

Jul 06, 2008 09:39 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

Mary... personally I am not annoyed by any groups. Nor am annoyed by jokes, recipes or anything, if I was annoyed reading any bloggers posts, I'd just move along and read something else... I just offered the poll for those who think there "oughta be a law against _____"   if there was one pet peeve of mine it would be the blogs that are really just ads for the Realtor... lotsa head shots and contact info...no content for any reader.

It does say" I am opposed to goups on ActiveRain too... " in a comment and it is MY comment and I wonder what was left out.  I like groups for reading AR.  I moderate 4 ?? groups, closed down a 5th group that comment spammers kept using.

Funny looking at Cheryl Johnson's comments about her "hobby horse"... I think between the NEW Localism and outside blogs Cheryl may be getting her wish.

I was naive (spelling?) about the political groups back when I wrote this.  I had NO idea. 

Other than Monika would people join a Market Report group?

Jul 06, 2008 01:03 PM
Mary Strang
Viroqua, WI

Hi Again Maureen, Great your not annoyed, that's good! Yes your post did not say anything like that, I just made a wrong assumption, sorry. 

As to the question, I think some would join a marketing group but there would be few comments posted on them.

Jul 06, 2008 02:50 PM
Tracy Santrock
Santrock Realty Group Inc. , - Cary, NC
Raleigh - Cary Broker

Hi Maureen,

My comment back to you before I saw the entire post was going to be, "There are a lot of things that should be banned on AR".  I think you've captured several and I agree with most. I'm a real opponent of recipes.  There is an AR person here that writes at least 3/week for points!! 

However, I do tend to get a lot of leads from my postings and I do use Localism content to drive those leads.  So, my point is this - Market Reports and Neighborhood profiles(mine are better now w/maps, backlinks, and either a video or slideshow) the bread and butter that drive those leads.  With my new Flip Video I'm thinking of doing the Market Reports w/my tripod reporter style via video(if they look professional and relaxed).

 

Jul 07, 2008 12:00 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

I think with the NEW Localism and the AR Outside blogs we will see less and less of the garbage.    The garbage (whatever is garbage to you or others ) may still be there but it will matter less and the good stuff is more in focus for readers.

Jul 07, 2008 12:19 AM
Sandra Workman
Coldwell Banker Realty - Bradley, IL
BBA, Broker, CRS, GRI, ABR, SFR, CNE, ePRO, CNHS

I was always taught if you don't have something nice to say - don't say it!  So,, as a recipe, brag about my kids,  joke poster (to the appropriate groups mind you) I'm going to keep my opinion to myself.  But, as a mother and Realtor - I like knowing the "social, fun" side of another Realtor before I decide to add them to my network or refer a client to them.  This business is serious - we have to have a lighter side also! And to say those of us that post things other than "serious business" and code of ethics - well,,,,, I'll keep my opinions to myself. 

Jul 07, 2008 12:40 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

Ok thanks Sandra...

Personally I think there are times to say something that is not nice. Historically I can think of  lots of examples of that... some relate to real estate some don't ... Civil rights including Fair Housing, Europe in the 1930's and 1940's..., slavery in the US in the 1800's... Am I going to leave a nasty note on a recipe? Nope.  I still don't think I've posted a recipe on AR... but I did jokes after this poll I think...

Funny I came back to see this poll and am struck by my July 7 comment about Localism... obviously 7/7 Localism was still going to be edited... before the proclaimation in August that we have to self police ourselves....   on Localism... no editing.

 

Sep 13, 2008 12:49 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

Now some members think we ought to have a law against Wordless Wednesday posts? Members Only

No points, pretty pictures but a # of members think they are wrong.

Dec 17, 2008 09:50 AM