FHA loans FHA loans are not the next subprime loans.  Don't let anyone else fool you on this. FHA has been around since 1934 and subprime mortgages started to emerge in 1994. Subprime loans in many cases were good for those lenders that weren't FHA approved. The problem with that is the rates on subprime mortgages were typically 2% higher than FHA mortgages.

Lastly, just because someone said that they can qualify you for a conventional loan and that it would be cheaper than a FHA mortgage, might not always be correct. In many cases, FHA loans are now cheaper than conventional loans, which I will show you below.

One main reason why a loan officer might still make it sound like conventional loans are cheaper than FHA loans is because they aren't FHA approved. Another reason would be because they don't know much about FHA mortgages.

 

 

The example below is based on a $300,000 purchase price with 10% down. One reason why conventional rates are a little higher in this scenario as in FHA rates is because Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have added penalties per se. If you are putting down less than 30% and your credit score is less than 680, certain fee penalties would apply to you, which would increase your rate.  The FICO (credit score) that I am going to use is 640, which is above average credit and will still show in this example that FHA loans are cheaper, even with 10% down.  

***And keep in mind, some lenders have penalties on FHA mortgages with credit scores under 620. It all comes down to the investor. We don't have penalties on any credit score above 580. And we can do credit scores down to 550. Many lenders can't go below 580.***

 

Type of Mortgage

Conventional Loan

FHA Loan

Purchase Price

$300,000

$300,000

Mortgage amount w/10% down

$270,000

$274,500

Mortgage Rate with Zero Points

7.00%

6.00%

Principal & Interest Payment

$1,796.32

$1,645.77

Mortgage Insurance Payment

$117.00

$112.00

Total Mortgage Payment PI & TI

$1,913.32

$1,757.88

Savings

 

$155.44 per month

Disclaimer :  These rates are just an example and can change because of various market conditions and are based on a 30 year fixed rate as of today. The fees would be the same and with zero points, so as to compare this scenario apples to apples. The conventional rate also includes the penalty for the 640 credit score.

 

 

Some of you might be saying that you will be adding $4,500 onto your principal balance if you did the FHA mortgage because of the FHA one-time mortgage insurance premium. This is correct and I don't want to confuse you with more numbers and charts. But here is a quick breakdown. If you kept your house for 5 years, which most people sell in a 6 year period, you would have saved $9,326.40 in payments in 5 years. This is a difference of $4,826.40 that you have saved!!!   And one other thing that is very small, but still makes a difference. You will be subtracting a few more dollars per month from your principal because your interest is lower. Just something else to remember.

 

 

FHA loansHow do I find an FHA approved lender?    You want to make sure who you are dealing with is FHA approved.

Why do I say this?  Not all lenders are approved FHA and some may tell you that you don't qualify FHA because in reality, they aren't FHA approved. 

 

You can find a HUD approved lender in your area by going to the following HUD website: http://www.hud.gov/ll/code/llplcrit.html     DISCLOSURE (just be careful of the spelling of the lender. If I put in my company's full name, Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc, it tells me that there is no such company. If I put in Infinity Home Mortgage, it shows my company as being FHA approved. Just keep this in mind. You can always call HUD also. (202) 708-1112

 

 

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14 Comments on FHA loans vs conventional loans -- The true story told by numbers....

APR
28
2008
Thanks for the information. It is helpful when people are trying to compare which loan to get into.
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Jeff,  I like facts and figures - they spell it all out. Very nicely done!
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Keep beating that drum Jeff.  Sooner or later, sellers will stop listening to their agents who tell them to reject FHA financed contracts.

 

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MATTHEW..... I think they need the numbers in front of them, like this, in order to compare.  Just hearing someone over the phone, it's hard to compute.  Especially if the lender isn't explaining it correctly.

MARC...... just as I explained to Matthew, as you mentioned, it does spell it out.  Thanks for the compliment.

LENN.....  yes, sellers need to stop listening to agents that tell their client not to take an offer with FHA financing. Hopefully sellers will understand this also and become more educated.

 

11:19am • #4
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I am glad you put the side-by side comparison.  That helps a lot of people understand the differences, and see the benefit.

One question I have, though:  I know that FHA requires a minimum out of pocket expense by the borrower.  They can also get a gift from certain outside sources (Family members, for example.)  Can that gift money be used to "buy down" the rate by paying points?  Could you post another comparison chart, showing $3000 and $6000 used to pay points, on bothe the conventional and the FHA loans?

12:39pm • #5
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I keep hearing that there aren't loans available for someone with a credit score less than 640.  Do the special cases mostly revolve around VA loans, or are there other exceptions?

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RICH....... thanks.. and glad that it helps some.   Gift monies can be 100% from either a family member or a non-profit organization.  It can be of any amount and used for anything, so that should cover it.

I did a point comparison breakdown a while back..... The Myths about ZERO point mortgages instead of paying points upfront……      But I will do an updated one in a few days. thanks.. 

 

PENNY.....  in all honesty, if you find the person spreading these rumors, ask them to leave the business politely. Tell them that they don't need to learn anything at all by delivering papers. Sorry if that sounds rude or cruel, but I am reading and hearing so many misleading comments, phrases, and misleading blogs written, it's not even funny anymore.  Many lenders can't go below 580.... I know a few at 530 and I can go all the way down to 500.  VA loans are much tougher on credit than FHA is.....  I hope this helps some...

 

8:44pm • #7
Sounds good.  I am trying to get my builder to bring his prices down to get to the FHA ceiiling.
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The numbers don't lie.  In 2005 FHA was a sliver of the market.  Now it's over 30% of the market.  FHA is the way to go for many people.  Many brokers don't offer FHA either.  FHA appraisals are so much more relaxed than they were years ago too.  Makes you wonder why so many have dragged their feet getting to FHA you know?
9:33pm • #9
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Jeff, I never tell clients FHA is the new subprime but they are a new good option that has been revamped from the FHA of old.
10:51pm • #10
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29
2008
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DENISE....   what are his prices right now?  What county do you live in or better yet, what is your county limit?   thanks

 

LARRY.... and not to sound rude, but I am glad that many brokers don't offer FHA.  In regards to why so many dragged their feet to become FHA approved? Money upfront... and assets...  and maybe a few think that it will come back soon enough. And don't forget, they say that the new FHA jumbo limits are only good until December...hence, why spend that money for that short time of a period....

My thinking....  how much you want to bet that they extend it for a year or permanently.... then what... those companies really made a bad decision...

 

GARY..... many lenders and realtors think that FHA is the new subprime.... when FHA has always been around, still was better than subprime, and much cheaper all away around.   And the FHA of the new....   nothing has changed since I have been doing this since 1992.... only 3 differences....

  1. qualifying ratios went from 29/41 to 31/43
  2. appraisals are now done on the same form as conventional appraisals...  & no VC sheet.. so the property conditions are the same
  3. now there are fico score levels and price adjustments....  prior to '08, there never was....
So if the lender wants to miss the boat, oh well... more for me...

 

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I'm with ya JB....I'm seeing this as the death of the common broker.  And in our state, that is a good thing.
9:43pm • #12
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05
2008

as a budding loan officer for a reputable mortgage bank, I have been told right from the start (Jan 08) by the very experienced people there - loan officers, underwriters, legal, etc. - that often, depending upon individual circumstances, FHA loans are a better deal. The RE agents should be educated -they can move more properties. Our limit here is now $281,250.00.

Your blog is informatve. 

Roger de Vore

roger de vore
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Jeff- Good information and the table really helps drive the point home that FHA can be a great way to go.

Best,

Scott 

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