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First Amendment Rights ? May be Wrong...

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Real Estate Agent with EXP Realty 414-525-0563 57026-90 Broker

  We wrote a post the other day...despite "The Rain" believing it was pointless and somehow a re-blog (it was neither,) it was quite widely read.  The Post: 

Social Media Goes To Mediation..You Be the Judge !

It talked about companies who had been taken to court...be it "Small Brains" (small claims) or a traditional court with cJudgeonsumer complaints for a job not done properly. The company can...and apparently more frequently these days does...as a condition of settlement against them, state that there will be no mention in any social media of the judgment or damages awarded in the suit.

    Last night was one of the regular occasions we meet with a largely lawyer member group in a social setting and we all feel free to ask for "free" advice/information in our respective professions.  Carla Muss-Jacobs, Principal Broker/Owner  raised the question in her comments on that post whether or not that short of legal stipulation was not a violation of first ano free speechmendment rights. That peeked our curiousity and we decided to exercise our "Free" legal question option to find out if that was an infraction of the right to free speech.

     Ah yes....it turns out...that it is not only legal...it is extremely common...and the larger the company that has received the complaint, the more ikely this kind of "gag order" is more likely to be a part of the settlement agreement.

    Further....now here is a "no surprise" result...Lawyers are now finding a whole new area of practice by pursuing and suing people who violate this order and choose to air their opinions about the company's product or service that "did them wrong".

     Soooo now you know "the rest of the story."  Amen and Women.

 

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Sally K. & David L. Hanson, ABR, CDPE, CSS, e-Pro,ILHM, REDS


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Ricki Eichler McCallum
CastNet Realty - Corpus Christi, TX
Broker,GRI,ABR, e-Pro, TAHS

Very Interesting;  thanks for exploring this topic further.  It is something to consider every time you share on PUBLIC social media :)

May 21, 2016 08:44 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Sally and David leave it up to the sharks Lawyers to find a new way to make money.

May 21, 2016 08:48 AM
Mike Cooper, Broker VA,WV
Cornerstone Business Group Inc - Winchester, VA
Your Neighborhood Real Estate Sales Pro

S & D, I would imagine if a gag order was part of the settlement, then it would extend to social media. I know people like to vent their experiences, but if they agree to something in court, they need to zip it. 

May 21, 2016 09:18 AM
Ginger Harper
Coldwell Banker Sea Coast Advantage~ Ginger Harper Real Estate Team - Southport, NC
Your Southport~Oak Island Agent~Brunswick County!

I am so sorry that I have not heard of this before now.  Thanks for bringing it to light..

 

May 21, 2016 10:34 AM
Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

     Un-elected Judges who issue those types of "Gag Orders" are infringing on our God-given rights to Free Speech.  

  

May 21, 2016 11:58 AM
Robert Havana
Park and Protect- Alberta Real Estate License Parking - Calgary, AB
Alberta Real Estate License Parking

Congratulations on the featured post, yes social media can be a can of worms for us all

May 21, 2016 05:40 PM
Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

Good morning Sally. Outstanding post and one we should pay attention to, as when we don't handle situations like this carefully, it could cost us dearly.

May 21, 2016 08:27 PM
Rob Arnold
Sand Dollar Realty Group, Inc. - Altamonte Springs, FL
Metro Orlando Full Service - Investor Friendly & F

Loose lips sink ships. Best to think before you post on social media especially something of that nature.

May 22, 2016 12:15 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

So much for free speech. The public may be gagged but people in the biz know

May 22, 2016 12:18 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

I no longer will leave “less than favorable” reviews on the Internet. In fact, I posted one back in 2011. All valid complaints but I deleted it earlier this week. The cost of retaliation is just not worth it. 

May 22, 2016 12:42 AM
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Thank you very much for sharing this information.

Have an outstanding week.

May 22, 2016 12:49 AM
Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

Read and follow this blog is a reality show by itself.  I listen and keep my opinion to myself.....

 

May 22, 2016 03:00 AM
Grant Schneider
Performance Development Strategies - Armonk, NY
Your Coach Helping You Create Successful Outcomes

Hi Sally and David - yes I have dealt with this in employment law.  It happens and people also breech it

May 22, 2016 07:35 AM
Lisa Von Domek
Lisa Von Domek Team - Dallas, TX
....Experience Isn't Expensive.... It's Priceless!

Social media causes more trouble...

May 22, 2016 09:40 AM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Sally and David, I included this post in today's Last Week's Favorites!

May 22, 2016 12:03 PM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson

Thank you Patricia Kennedy  we appreciate your kind inclusion in your Blog review !

May 22, 2016 12:09 PM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Sally K. & David L. Hanson - Social Media is now a new way to 'go after' someone - be it a company or an individual...

May 22, 2016 12:12 PM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Since a settlement is a contractual agreement, I don't think the right to free speech has any bearing. The person getting the settlement has freely given up the right to publically air those grievances. 

Now if they didn't ask for damages and there was no settlement... they could say what they want, as long as it was true and factual. Even then, the party doing the "airing" could be sued for libel and then would have to prove that what they said was true. 

I think the best idea is to write about the good things / good people / good companies in life. Don't clutter up your brain and your energies by focusing on the creeps. 

May 22, 2016 02:40 PM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson

Yhe very high cost of litigation has everything to do with the decision 

May 22, 2016 03:09 PM
Ginny Gorman
RI Real Estate Services ~ 401-529-7849~ RI Waterfront Real Estate - North Kingstown, RI
Homes for Sale in Southern RI and beyond

Like they say Sally  'loose lips sink ships'  and hit you in the almighty dollar reward or penalty.

May 22, 2016 08:07 PM
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Lots of people attempt to use the anonymity of the Internet to post all sorts of really bad information.  I like it when they have to own up to their words.

May 22, 2016 08:42 PM
GARY TAYLOR
SUMMA REAL ESTATE GROUP - Beaverton, OR
MANAGING BROKER AND CORPORATE TRAINER

The other way around may be true also.  When we have a claim we wish to dismiss with payment of money,  we will not pay money without an indemnification agreement.  Among the stipulations is that none of the parties may pursue further legal action, file a complaint with the Real Estate Agency nor an Ethics complaint with the Realtor Association.  We should probably add a clause that the parties also agree not to post any derogatory comments on social media.  

May 23, 2016 07:48 AM