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Can We Predict a Bottom?

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Real Estate Agent with Hilton Head Lowcountry, LLC dba Keller Williams Referrals

I confess I can't, but perhaps there are others who may have some useful ideas.  In recent days I've spoken to several people who've offered some insights.  I'll share them below and invite others to chime in.

A friend who has been in the business longer than me recently opined that one factor that characterizes the end  of both bull and bear markets is a rapid acceleration of panic.  What he meant is that historically, at the end of either market, one sees a rapid increase in the rate of price increases or decreases respectively.  If this is true, yesterday's AP report that "Home Prices Fall at Record Clip" might be encouraging.  The closely watched seven-year-old S&P's Case-Shiller Home Price Index showed that home prices in 20 cities fell almost 13 percent in February from a year earlier.  This is a record for the Index.

In my area, the lowcountry of South Carolina and Georgia, prices in Hilton Head and Bluffton, South Carolina have followed this trend and it appears that in the past three months there has been a noticeable increase in the number of downward listing price adjustments.  But the national home price index has been showing declines in prices for 9 months now.  In this country we are still coming to grips with the national myth prevalent several years earlier that housing prices will always increase so it's natural that many see a declining market as a blip from the norm and that some cosmic force is always pulling us back to the "good old days" of, well, 2004.  I hope this is true but I lived in Asia in the mid 1990's and patterns of long term real estate price declines in countries like Japan are haunting.  Again, people a lot smarter than me tell me that macro economic conditions here will prevent a similar long term housing malaise.

Perhaps the best common sense assessment I've read recently came from Charles Hughes Smith in his April 23, 2008 blog, "Want to Know When Housing Has Bottomed? Here's How."  Mr. Smith believes that the "bottom will be close when buying real estate make sense as a sound business proposition."  It's well worth reading his entire piece at http://www.oftwominds.com/blogapr08/RE-bottom4-08.html.

Any thoughts out there or better yet evidence that shows you've reached a bottom in your market?
   

Russ Ravary ~ Metro Detroit Realtor call (248) 310-6239
Real Estate One - Commerce, MI
Michigan homes for sale ~ yesmyrealtor@gmail.com
Don't believe in the bottom yet.  At least in Detroit it is going to be into 2009 or 10 before we see bottom.  I don't believe we will see a  turnaround until 3 years plus from all these foreclosures.  All these people that have foreclosures can't buy for 3 years.  Less buyers, harder credit.  3+ years for a major uptick orturnaround.
Apr 29, 2008 10:15 PM
Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector
Some new leadership in the Whitehouse will most likely help, but I believe it's going to take quite a bit more time yet.
Apr 29, 2008 10:28 PM
Chip Jefferson
Advanced Building LLC - Lexington, SC
When credit gets back to a level that the lenders arent looking for ways to turn a consumer down the market bottom will have arrived. Simply put less buyers and more product equals lower prices.
Apr 29, 2008 10:30 PM
Melissa Grant
A Serendipity World - Greenbackville, VA
The Law of Attraction In Life & Business
I agree with Russ's comment. I don't believe the New President will do us much good at this point since no-one thus far is campaigning a stategy to get us out of the mess.
Apr 29, 2008 10:54 PM
June Piper-Brandon
Coldwell Banker Realty - Columbia, MD
Creating Generational Wealth Through Homeownership
Don't believe it's hit bottom yet, I think we'll see a seasonal increase in activity and a seasonal plateau in pricing, but another dip this fall and winter.  It's going to be a tough year for a lot of people but if you situate yourself well and do what you need to do you'll weather the storm fine.
Apr 29, 2008 11:54 PM
Charlie Ragonesi
AllMountainRealty.com - Big Canoe, GA
Homes - Big Canoe, Jasper, North Georgia Pros
I think different markets will bottom at different times. So Florida may be at bottom but we in Georgia are not as we did not decelerate as fast. So we could see Florida, as an example at bottom and starting to cme back while Georgia and SC still are going down. Fun stuff eh?
Apr 30, 2008 12:03 AM
Matthew Zgonc
Aksland Real Estate - Modesto, CA
Realtor, CFS, CVS
I think we start to hit bottom out here, then a new wave of foreclosures hits. It is really frustrating, but has opened doors to other things.
Apr 30, 2008 02:45 AM
Erik Hitzelberger
RE/MAX Alliance - Louisville REALTOR-Luxury Homes - Louisville, KY
Louisville - Middletown Real Estate

The Louisville market has not hit the bottom yet.  Depending on whose report you want to believe, prices here are up 0.6% - 3.6%.  Sales are off 34% YTD and Inventory is up.  The one-factor keeping the ship afloat is that new listings are down almost as much as sales.  Of course, this means a lot of home owners who want to sell are waiting for better times.  It will take at least 2-years for the market to correct itself.  

May 08, 2008 01:37 AM
Stuart Dobson
eLoanRates.org - Thornton, CO

The new money magazine just came out and it predicting a bottom for most markets in the 2nd or 3rd quarter of 2009...of course we all know how accurate magazine covers are lol.

I think the best quote I read in the article basically said you will know its a bottom when prices haven't declined for the previous six months.  That seems logical enough if not overly obvious.

Here in Colorado we haven't hit the bottom quite yet but there are so many investor snapping up the best deals, the market does seem to have some 'legs' underpinning the low end pricing.

 

 

May 15, 2008 07:05 AM
Michele Reneau
Certified Staging Professional (CSP) Elite Instructor - Summerville, SC
Realtor, GRI ~ Charleston, SC Relocation Experts Team

I think it's important to remember that all real estate is local and I've noticed in Charleston, there are different trends depending on the area of town.  In a lot of ways, I think some parts of Mt Pleasant have hit bottom or are close not to mention, the change in market was most noticeable there first in 2005. Other places in Summerville and Goose Creek just started to feel the effects last year and will take longer to get to the bottom, as some sellers are still in denial.  There is still lots of new construction competing with resales there and this will probably continue for quite some time given there were over 150,000 future permits requested in 2005 in Berkeley and Dorchester Counties.  I think it will take longer in these markets whereas there's not any room to build in Mt Pleasant.  I can't imagine prices going much lower there.  In fact, buyers should take note of these prices now, because in my humble opinion, it will be the lowest we'll see over there when inflation kicks back in. 

May 29, 2008 12:40 PM