Disclosure: I am not a financial advisor. This is not financial advice, and you'd be an idiot to follow what I do personally. 

I personally only own ONE "stock", and that is called SPY. The #1 bought and sold stock in America, meanwhile most individual investors don't know about it.

It is an Index Fund (also called an EFT, Exchange Traded Fund) that has all of the S&P 500 rolled into one stock with virtually no fees and no annual maintenance. Motley Fool  wrote that "3 out of 4 mutual funds don't beat the market." (ie SPY)

So why not just be average and beat 75% of the funds every year?

The Wall Street Journal used to have a competition. They would have a monkey throw darts at a group of stocks and compare the results to the experts. I believe the monkey repeatedly won. What does this mean? This means that the market is too efficient for somebody to consistently beat it.

Just yesterday my girlfriend asked me to review what her financial advisor sent her. It was 25 pages of gibberish. It appeared as if the entire intent was to confuse the reader into thinking, "Wow, they really must know what they are doing, I'll just tell them YES." (Sound familiar? Some Realtors take the approach of, "overwhelm the client with BS to scare them into signing.")

So, I looked up the 10 Mutual Funds in her report. I compared them to my SPY and I was impressed... my monkey theory was blown. 8 of the 10 blew away the industry average (S&P 500 & SPY). This couldn't be... So I had her log into her account. I then looked at what her account had. They were totally different mutual funds!

Upon rereading the manifesto, those well performing funds were the "RECOMMENDED funds" for the future. Are you freaking kidding me!!? The funds she owned did horribly! Probably 10% worse than SPY! So what they did was take 10 random funds that DID do well and say "we recommend you buy these, look how well they did, you will do great next year." Are you kidding me?

So much for a long term plan to leave the funds untouched for 5-10 years. The worst thing you can do is dump the under performing ones (all of them) every year and chase the next big thing. (Re-Disclosure: Ignore me, I am not a financial advisor).

Oh yeah, for those that don't know, there is something called Churning an Account. Oftentimes they only make money when they buy and sell, not when it sits. So not only did their initial picks blow, they now want to sell and rebuy everything to get another commission.

What did we decide to do? Sell everything (they were down from the purchase date, so no taxes, actually a tax break). And we bought just SPY (The S&P 500 rolled into 1 "index" stock).

Why haven't you heard about the #1 stock (in volume, look for yourself)  being bought and sold in America everyday!??? Because the financial advisors make squat on it! And magazines are always looking to beat the market and promote their advertisers (mutual funds). Nobody gets rich pushing SPY. 

Even the torch bearer of truth, the Motley Fool, figured out that they don't make money on pushing "dumb", reliable and outperforming SPY, instead they receive millions from Mutual Funds to sell their products. This link even talks about how 75% of mutual funds stink and their theory on how to find that 25% (which is nearly impossible in the long run, but they make money watching people try!).

Compare your funds to SPY here,  and report back in the comments.

(Sidenote: One reason to consider NOT unloading your funds would be the tax ramifications. For my girlfriend's IRA it was a Tax-Free no brainer, but we held off on her other funds since she would have to pay capital gains for the tax. Now that the market has pulled back, and they are nearly all losses, we are cutting bait and switching to SPY. By the way, we would have been much better off if we had paid the tax and swapped last year) 

For those consumers that hate Realtors as much as I hate this financial advisor, I now better understand them.

Hopefully by explaining better what we do, and talking straight, and not feeding you BS, we can separate us from Financial Advisors.

I'd love to hear from a Financial Advisor and debate the practice above.

Please correct me. Show me what I am missing (I really want to know!). Nobody in the history of mutual funds has consistently beaten the average, so why buy Mutual Funds which:

  1. Start 1-2% behind every year in management fees (don't be fooled by "no-load" funds, they got fees)
  2. Only have a 25% chance of beating the average, with all the downside risk of doing much worse
  3. Paying a fund manager $400,000 a year, and he can't even beat a monkey.

Discuss. I am making no opinion on whether or not to get into the stock market, but if you did, how did you decide what to buy? 

Written by Frank Borges LL0SA- Realtor (not a Financial Advisor)

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11 Comments on Financial Advisors vs Monkey Throwing Darts, Like REALTORS?

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Frank, this is why the average person is better off picking an index fund or an industry sector fund (i.e. health care, energy, precious metals) that they believe in and then just sticking with it and dollar-cost-averaging their investments.  Professional or amateur stockpicking doesn't do much better than a random selection unless you get lucky.

Love the picture of the monkey throwing darts!

8:52am • #1
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I am no financial expert myself, but that does sound insane.  The way that I pay my advisor is with a commission that is ONLY paid if my stocks make money.  If they don't make money, then he does not get paid.  So it is in his best interest to be following my money very closely. 

My personal philosophy is that if you want to make quick money in the stock market, then watch the 13-15 year old kids.  Whatever is starting to make the rounds with these guys is about to make a lot of money!  Buy the product low, then sell it at the peak!

8:56am • #2
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Most of my IRA is invested in an S&P 500 index fund.  Low fees, no load, no worries!
9:03am • #3
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Hi Frank,

Great post!  I especially loved the graphic with the monkey.  Your comments are right on the money.  You should never "chase" yields or returns or performance, and yet that is exactly what most investors do.  The trick is to pick mutual funds that will perform well going forward and not pick mutual funds that have done well in the past.  You can also look at their 5, 10 and lifetime performance numbers to see how well they hold up over the long run.  It is still difficult to do this, so buying an index fund can be a great way to keep investing and not worry about it. 

9:04am • #4
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Frank,

Great post...amazing how far a little common sense goes...and how rare it is!!! Thanks,   Fran

9:48am • #5
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Frank: As with anything, it's all about trust and working with someone who is competent. Whether you're a realtor (you), a mortgage broker (me) or a financial advisor, it pays to know what we're doing so we are working in our clients' best interests.

 

Paul

11:09pm • #6
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2008
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Hey Brian,

I disagree. Even picking a sector index fund is still risky. Too many uncertain ups and downs. So I have sold everything and just took the average approach. Lowest risk. I grab the Wall Street Journal and I can see on the front page, I did what the market did. If I really want to mix it up, I might get some DIA or QQQ if I want some technology (higher risk and higher return). 

12:28am • #7
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Emily,

I'd say look over VERY carefully how you incentivize (spell check doesn't like that word) your advisor. Go look at your last two reports. How did you do versus SPY?

Also you might be unknowingly ENCOURAGING him to take on HIGHER risk products in hopes of getting a cut of the big win, versus a more reliable result with SPY. 

12:30am • #8
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Hey Paul,

I agree with you. But with the financial advisor, this person has worked for my girlfriend's family for 15-20 years managing their money. I just don't get it. I want a "good" financial advisor to challenge this post.

When we converted all of her funds last year, they showed all these stats on how putting it all into S&P 500 wasn't diversified enough. How she was missing out on international, or utilities. But the problem is, those fluctuate a huge amount and on average, don't beat the average.

While I CAN see how they might help with planning your IRA, or deciding how much stock to buy, vs a type of home, or tax matters... but when it comes to buying stocks, if you decide that you want to be in the market, I see zero benefit in their recommended, high kick-back Mutual Funds. It seems like a huge scam to me.

 Frank 

12:34am • #9
Only one of the sad realities of investments.  Think thats a crime buy an annuity or whole life insurance.  Ultimately its about educating yourself and finding a team of trusted advisors.
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Love the tip about SPY. Makes total sense.

 

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