A few weeks ago, I was contacted about representing a family who had recently lost their loved one to suicide. The death occurred in the home, and as you can imagine, the family is extremely upset. Currently they are taking steps to clean the room in which the death occurred, removing drywall, painting, etc. Thankfully, the insurance company is covering the cost to repair.

We do not know if the home will have to go through probate yet, so the listing of the home is on hold.

My question is, should the suicide be disclosed to any buyers that show interest in the home, once it is listed? Each state has different disclosure laws. Here is how Minnesota addresses the issue:

  • the law says that all material facts pertaining to the physical condition of the home must be disclosed
  • the law says that it is not a material fact that some with HIV or AIDS lived there, was the site of a suicide, accidental death, natural death, or perceived paranormal activity. 
  • HOWEVER, the law also says that if a real estate licensee is aware of any material fact about the property that might adversely affect the use or enjoyment of the home, then those facts must be disclosed to prospective buyers

Can you see the Catch 22 I am in by state law.

I don't have to disclose the suicide because it is not a material fact, but I have to disclose anything that might affect the enjoyment of the home. Putting myself in the buyer's shoes, I don't think it would bother me if a suicide occurred in the home, but it could affect someone's enjoyment of the home if they became haunted by the fact someone died in a specific room.

The choice to not disclose the death could be "overturned" by any neighbors who feel it is their obligation to inform prospects about what happened. Stories can even be embellished and the truth lost by those who do not know the facts.

I am sure most buyers would like to know the history of the home, no matter how hard a subject it is.

What would you do in this case? Or, have any of you been put in this situation and how did you address the issue? Any helpful advice is greatly appreciated!

 

 

16 Comments on Death in the Home - Is it the Kiss of Death to Your Listing Too?

MAY
01
2008
hi- I would probably speak to my broker.....you don't have to disclose it but if some one asks you-you then might have to say something...it's a tricky situation..maybe call your legal hotline in your area to find out...good luck
9:34am • #1
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Don't envy you for this situation Jennifer. I have never had it happen to me and hope it never does. I think the right thing to do is disclose it, you don't want an agry buyer calling you after closing wanting to know why you didn't tell them. What a sad situation, good luck to you.
9:35am • #2
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Jennifer--Call the MN Board for clarification but I believe no duty to disclose means they do not have to disclose unless it was a murder. Though neighbors may tell the whole story, the sellers would have the current law on their side as this was not a material fact requiring disclosure should a dispute arise. I have called the board directly and they are very helpful. Good luck!
9:42am • #3
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Michael -  thanks Michael. I have spoken to a few people and they are mixed about the disclosure, but haven't approached my broker yet as it is not listed yet.
9:43am • #4
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Mary - yes, it is very sad to hear a family having to go through this, especially when young children are involved. My job is to come up with a way to sell the home quickly, but I wonder if buyers will not even look at the home if the death is disclosed up front?
9:45am • #5
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Teri - I have thought of calling them. See this is where I am at a crossroads. The law is on my side and the sellers side, but what would a buyer think if we didn't disclose it?
9:48am • #6
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Jennifer - That is a catch 22, as you indicated. Suicide is specifically excluded from disclosure in Texas as well.  I would speak with the state real estate commission and your broker. Either way, I hope you get it sold!
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It's a tricky situation since they will find out.  I guarantee that one of the neighbors will say, "Welcome to the neighborhood...you're so brave to buy the suicide house."

10:00am • #8
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Jason -  only law makers would come up with a way to make something so simple, so difficult.
11:41am • #9
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Joe - LOL....yes, that's exactly what would happen!
11:42am • #10
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Jennifer--I guess this is how I would handle the situation...I would run this idea by our broker's legal dept and the MN board first but I would discuss with my sellers and explain that they have no legal obligation to disclose the suicide as that is what the MN law says. I remember this being discussed quite thoroughly in legal update classes. The sellers would be your clients and you would have a duty to obey their directions as long as they are legal instructions, which in this case it would be legal not to disclose this information as it is not considered a material fact by the state. 

Where I believe it could get dicey is in a dual agency situation...this is the part I would run by my legal or the MN board legal. I would request authorization from the seller up front to disclose the suicide should a dual agency arise. I would feel obligated to disclose the suicide to my buying client in a dual agency as you cannot favor one client over the other. I believe this is a gray area.

But MN law states it is not a material fact so unless the listing client directs you in the alternative, I do not think you can disclose. 

Again good luck with this one as it is a tough one.

6:57pm • #11
MAY
02
2008
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Teri - you give some really good advice about dual agency...you are right that it could cause a problem. I will have to wait and see what happens with the listing, and let you know what decision we make.
9:59pm • #12
MAY
03
2008
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Jennifer--I overthink some of these things...but like to keep myself out of trouble. It all comes down to agency and who you work for. This is one of those tough ones...Good topic as it keeps us all thinking!
1:22pm • #13
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Ah, the gray areas of our business! I always try to put myself in the shoes of a buyer/seller, as long as it does not conflict with laws. So - my inclination would be not to put it in the remarks where it might preclude a showing, but to have the sellers add it to the property disclosure form in the "are there any other things?" section. That would also cover having something in writing from the sellers relating to what is disclosed.
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Teri - Sadly, we must keep our eye out for all the ways someone might try to twist good intentions into a lawsuit.

Sharon - I have thought about this as well as the best solution. I don't want to put it into agent notes on the MLS or else I might never get a showing.

10:08pm • #15
MAY
08
2008
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I think the law is very clear, you do not have to disclose it! How does that affect the enjoyment of the home? It doesn't affect the homes material, they are all being replaced! I would not disclose it, but if someone asks, then you may have to disclose it.

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