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October Lead Generation Challenge: An Old-Fashioned Approach

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Real Estate Agent with RLAH@properties AB95346

Lead Generation used to be called "prospecting", and in my post-licensing real estate training program, prospecting was the main focus for newly minted agents.  This was long before anyone invented the internet, so paying large sums of money to Zillow or Trulia or anyone else for internet leads was unheard of.  It was before websites and people wanting you to pay them big bucks to make you Number One on the first page of Google.  Oh! And there was no Google. 

Over the years, I've put together a model that works for me.  It's a lot of Old School stuff that works, and some New School stuff that works.  But I'm proud to say that I've not paid a penny to Zulia or any other lead sellers.  But I have paid some smart kids in Canada to create a website for me, and that was totally worth it.  Here are the topics that Jeff Dowler asks us to address in his October Challenge.

I.  Repeat Business and Finding New Leads:

From the time I started working in real estate, my focus has been on developing and maintaining my Center of Influence, and I was blessed with a great one.  By the time I got my license in 1982, I had been working in Washington for about ten years, first at Ralph Nader's Aviation Consumer Action Project, and then in the Carter Administration at the old Civil Aeronautics Board.  Most of the people I worked with were attorneys who I kept in touch with, and virtually all of my early transactions were people I'd worked with at previous jobs or people they referred to me.   And I've followed that pattern throughout my career.  

While I don't work that hard to keep in touch with all of my past clients, I d stay in touch with most of them.  I try to make a minimum of 10 "Schmooze Calls" every week to way hello, I follow most of these people on Facebook or LinkdIn.  And almost every year I throw a big party and invite them.  

New leads that I work with come mostly from Open Houses.  Again, learning the art of planning and executing a successful Open was something I learned early in my career.  It worked then.  It works now.

What about blogging and online leads?  Blogging leads come from referrals from blog buddies in other parts of the country.  Also, blogging has given me a huge boost when the past clients I haven't kept up with go online to find me.  If they Google my name, which is pretty common, it comes up on the second or third place on Page 1.  It's also helped when people I have met at Open Houses check me out.

And I use my website, housepat.com, mostly to give the buyers I work with an easy way to search for property and stay connected to me, but not really to attract strangers who might be looking for a house (or who knows what else) here in DC.

II. How Good Is That Lead?

A new lead may be willing to buy, but the important thing is making sure they are ready and able to make it to the settlement table, and they need to be ready to make the journey with me.  If they are not already pre-approved by a reputable local lender, the have to pass the Alan Gross Test.  If he says they're able, it's usually  a go.  

Are there any circumstances when I decide not to work with a client?  Not many.  I've been fortunate enough to attract some wonderful buyers and sellers over the years.  But sometimes, it just doesn't work. And in that case, I work hard to create an amicable breakup.  And I try to connect them with a colleague who will be a better match.

III. Tracking My Leads and Productivity.

OK.  If you think that my lead generation is, well, retro, wait until you hear how I track everything!  I use an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of  my prospects.  I note their names, contact information, and a log of each contact, what they own, and what they are looking for.  Then, once they become clients, they get their own page.  I keep a page for each client and transaction in, I am embarrassed to say, "notes" on iCloud.  It's  easy to  access it on all of my mobile devices.     

Yeah, I know there've been apps for that since forever.  I tried Howard & Friends (not terrible) Top Producer (too complicated), and Smarter Agent (totally hated it).  ,   

For me, the system is not as important as that I use whatever that system is.  ,   

So 2016 has been a good year.   November and December are the months for planning to create a great 2017, and I'm totally psyched about what's to come!   

 

Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Pat loved your comment the "schmooze talk" I need to  work on that more,  I am not  big on schmoozing since I am more black and white talker vs Gray talker:))Endre

Oct 31, 2016 04:09 PM
Alan Gross
PrimeLending, A PlainsCapital Company, Equal Housing Lender - Bethesda, MD
Loan Consultant

Patricia Kennedy As you well know I am a big advocate of Relationship Marketing. The best source of new business is your current data base for both repeat business and referrals. Its something that is frequently overlooked or ignored. Thanks for the mention in your post about passing the Alan Gross test. It's important to know if and how much potential buyers are qualified for. A little checking up front can save tons of time and energy that can be wasted later.

Oct 31, 2016 10:38 PM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Hi Pat -- I like your retro prospecting approach and obviously "old school" works well for you.  

Oct 31, 2016 11:13 PM
Pat Starnes-Front Gate Realty
Front Gate Real Estate - Brandon, MS
601-991-2900 Office; 601-278-4513 Cell

Simple Excel spreadsheet, huh? Now Pat, I thought you would have been a high-tech! The main thing is, it doesn't matter what system you use as long as you USE something that works!

Nov 01, 2016 03:36 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Patricia nothing wrong with the "old school" methods of producing business, and like you I don't pay a penny for leads either.

Nov 01, 2016 05:52 AM
Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi Pat - I have a fondness for old fashioned stuff as well. A lot of the personal touch stuff from the old days of yore still is the best way to keep past clients and acquaintances as a continuing source of business, and it sounds like you do a great job at that.

Nov 01, 2016 06:01 AM
Robert Bob Gilbert
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Anderson Properties - Katy, TX
Your Katy TX ( West of Houston) Real Estate Expert

Pat, Your old fashion approach sounds good and works for me. Excellent post. 

Nov 01, 2016 06:37 AM
John Meussner
Mortgages in AZ, CA, CO, DE, FL, GA, IN, MD, MN, MT, NC, NJ, NV, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WI - Fair Oaks, CA
#MortgageMadeEasy Fair Oaks, CA 484-680-4852

I'm old school in a lot of ways, too -- I use pen & paper, but skip excel.  It's amazing that while so many people chase the latest bells & whistles, the same basic tools remain ways to achieve success.

Nov 01, 2016 08:07 AM
June Piper-Brandon
Coldwell Banker Realty - Columbia, MD
Creating Generational Wealth Through Homeownership

I am getting back to basics and it's hard for me to "use" systems and I have yet to find something that works well for me. 

Nov 01, 2016 10:39 AM
Lisa Von Domek
Lisa Von Domek Team - Dallas, TX
....Experience Isn't Expensive.... It's Priceless!

Great post for the contest Patricia Kennedy and you are exactly correct...it doesn't matter the system you use, but how well you use it!

Nov 01, 2016 11:22 AM
Lou Ludwig
Ludwig & Associates - Boca Raton, FL
Designations Earned CRB, CRS, CIPS, GRI, SRES, TRC

Patrica

Your lead generation post is common sense . . . .

Real estate professional either prospect or they don't . . . . If they don't they won't have customers . . . . if they don't have customers they will fade away from the real estate business.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

Nov 01, 2016 11:30 AM
Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

Patricia, it sounds like you have a good way of getting business. I trust you are working leads and doing well.

Nov 01, 2016 12:02 PM
Robert Vegas Bob Swetz
Las Vegas, NV

Hello Patricia

Makes sense to me and some great simple old fashion ways to create leads!

Nov 01, 2016 12:17 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Rebecca, it's just so easy to use a spread sheet!  

Nov 01, 2016 01:31 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Beth, for a long time, I was the first in line to try any new service that involved my computer - Howard and Friends was the very first!  Now I'm a much harder sell.

Nov 01, 2016 01:33 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Kathy, I was lucky to have a great sphere.  And looking there for leads certainly beat cold calling and door knocking.

Nov 01, 2016 01:35 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Jeff, thank you for putting this one together.  It helped my to focus on what works for my next year's business plan.

Nov 01, 2016 01:40 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Endre, I inherited the schmooze gene from my grandmother!

Nov 01, 2016 01:43 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Alan, as I recall, you saved my a bunch of time and effort a few times!

Nov 01, 2016 01:53 PM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

Old fashion works for me too Pat. I think it is because you and I have mastered it and don't need to reinvent the wheel.

Nov 02, 2016 11:27 AM