I seem to be getting more and more calls on my REO properties asking if the seller is willing to pay all of the buyer's closing costs and participate in an FHA downpayment assistance program (such as Ameridream).  The story is usually that "It's a really sweet first time homebuyer who is just starting out and just doesn't have any money".

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My answer is generally the standard, "I'll present any and all offers".  What I really want to say is, "WHY WOULD YOU WANT YOUR "SWEET 1ST TIME HOMEBUYER WHO DOESN'T HAVE ANY MONEY" TO BUY A NEGLECTED HOME?"

 

That's right - 99% of the time, a bank-owned property is a neglected property (and is being sold "as-is".  Think about it....if the former owner couldn't make their mortgage payment, they certainly weren't paying to maintain the property as necessary.  I can almost guarantee you that there wasn't a termite contract on the property!  It may have been years of neglect (not changing filters, not cleaning gutters, etc.).  The bank may have prettied it up with a fresh coat of paint and new flooring; however, it's what lies beneath that costs the most amount of money.

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FHA appraisals are another issue.  For good reason, FHA requires that their appraisers perform a "mini-inspection" of the property.  FHA appraisals are some of the most stringent with regards to condition.  If the property is selling "as-is", the buyer could be contractually obligated to perform the repairs necessary to get the property up to FHA standards or risk losing their earnest money.  In addition, many bank-owned properties do not have all of the utilities turned on.  The FHA appraiser will most likely require utilities to be turned on for the inspection.  This may also be the responsibility of the buyer.  The gas and water companies generally require someone to be at the property during a "window of a few hours" to wait to get the utilities turned on.  Also, the water company may require any outstanding bill be paid prior to turning on the water.  The bank may reimburse for this; however, it may also be an upfront cost to the buyer.  If the property has been winterized, it may also be the buyer's responsibility to have the property re-winterized once the inspections are completed (in case the sale falls through).

 

foreclosed houseI understand that everyone wants a deal in this market....and there are many deals to be had.  In my opinion, however, for a buyer who doesn't have a significant financial cushion in the bank, a bank owned, neglected property is not the way to go.

Tina in Virginia

 
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8 Comments on FHA and REO Shouldn't Date

MAY
06
2008
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Tina:

It is the perception that gets in the way of buyers that are considering REO's. Many times a buyer even if they do not utilize the FHA program wants a deal. From what I read you seem to handle this type of buyer with a lot of professionalism.  I am always getting flyer's from the REO agent that states that the bank is willing to wheel and deal, which makes it hard on those listings that do not have the latitude to make deals/steals.

9:24am • #1
On my REO properties, I do not list FHA as a financing option.  I advise them the same as you do - It is sold as-is and the buyers are at a much bigger risk of having problems with this property. 
10:06am • #2
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I have had so far 1 REO listing.  Thank goodness this one was not inhabitable so agents knew it would not fly FHA.  I try to steer my FHA clients away from homes that are REO because of the neglect issue.  If they don't have money to put down they don't have money to fix it up.  I let them know that REOs are generally neglected.  Thanks for the post.
12:53pm • #3
MAY
08
2008
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Tina:  FHA and REOs are terrible together, but sometimes you have no choice.  Right now, I'm dealing with a buyer with wrote on an REO, and is doing the downpayment assistance program.  I thought the worst was over when that got accepted.  Not so.  The appraiser made a literal guesstimate on the distance from the property to a power tower.  We've been delayed for two weeks trying to clear up this guesstimate by asking the City or the utility company that owns the tower to provide documentation that the towner won't fall on the house.  Niether will issue such a certificate.  It's a mess!
5:19pm • #4
MAY
09
2008
OOoooo!! OOooo!! I have a 3rd one to throw into the mix that might (maybe) solve some problems! REO + FHA + 203k = problem solved (?!?!) Get ready for a sales pitch ... - but seriously - this may help: A 203k renovation loan can be done and allows you to sell a property on the after improved value. The 203k streamline (which can work in conjunction with FHA) is up to $35,000 cash back that the buyer can use for improvements like new carpet, new appliances, painting - general fixer uppers. Talk to your local Wells Fargo Home Mortgage Consultant for more information. The company I was with prior to Wells Fargo didn't do FHA or the Renovation loans so I lost a lot of deals because the REO property my clients were buying was deemed "Uninhabitable" on the appraisal. I learned real fast to ask what condition the property was in! Contact me through my A/R profile if you have any questions about Renovation lending. But I do hear you on the FHA and Down Payment Assistance - coupling that with all the prospective first time homebuyers who are looking for a good deal. I know in the lending world our sales staff is really using the FHA + DAP = 100% financing as an angle to work with realtors. It's great to learn what a REALTOR's point of view on the topic is!
3:35pm • #5
JUL
09

 I agree with Sarah, we do quite a few FHA loans for REO properties, and we take the FHA 203 k Mini.  It is a great loan and allows so much do be done . As long as there isnt a structural problem then you should be ok. email me for any details you would like on the FHA 203 K mini. @ shm_mortgage@gmail.com

 

thanks

Tammy

Tammy
5:50pm • #6
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Sarah beat me to the punch!  A 203k loan may be exactly what the doctor ordered.  This allows the buyers to roll repairs into the loan.  Possibily a win-win.

6:05pm • #7
MAR
21

203k sounds like a great option. I wouldn't sell FHA short right now. They have the easiest credit qualifying typically, the 203k lets YOU close the loan now and then the work is completed while you are selling another property. My favorite properties are mixed use because you can ignore the store fronts or  commercial aspects of the property and still have up to 4 residential units. A newer investor would do well to start with this type property and live in one unit.

11:01pm • #8

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