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Selling a house or condo to Settle an Estate

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Real Estate Agent with RLAH@properties AB95346

When it was time to settle my  parents' estate, the heirs, my siblings and I, were very fortunate.  My father was a compulsive engineer who loved everything to be tidy, and that included my parents' estate.

We were able to list the house as soon as it was painted and staged and ready for prime time.  Everything was in a trust, so there was no probate procedure, minimal legal fees, and we could miss out parents like crazy - without being annoyed with them for leaving their estate in a mess.

But it doesn't always work that way.

Soon after selling my mother's house, I got an ActiveRain referral for a condo in one of my favorite DC buildings.  It was being sold by a really nice woman whose sister had recently died.  And we soon learned that she'd left three, count 'em, three invalid wills.  About a year later, and after a huge legal bill, we were finally able to list the unit - the week after the condo board promulgated some onerous restrictions on owners renting their units.  It took months to sell in a market that, except for this building, was white hot.

The seller missed her sister terribly, and I can only imagine how annoyed she must have been with the whole situation.

Last weekend, I sold a condo that had been owned by wonderful old lady who died just short of her 100th birthday, after living an exciting life that included a job in an iconic president's White House.  And in a very scary moment, the listing agent and I realized we weren't sure what the deal was with the estate. And it turned out that the unit was in a tidy trust, and we'll be able to settle in a short time.

But what if she'd had a boy toy instead of  trust?  What if she'd gotten annoyed with her children for being rotten kids and never visiting her and left everything to the young man who doted on her in her dotage? When it comes to estates, pretty much anything is possible, though the best possibility is a will and a trust. 

If you are charged with selling a property to settle the estate of a loved-one, the time to have "the conversation" is while Mom or Granny or Uncle Lenny is still with us.  That way, the money can go to the intended heirs, instead of the probate lawyers!

If you are planning a move to or from the Washington area, I can help.  I am licensed in DC, Maryland and Virginia.  Please email me at Housepat@mac.com or call 202-549-5167. 

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Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

It really does make a difference when estate properties have been cared for.  I went through a similar experience with my parent's home, back in the 1970s.

Dec 06, 2016 04:59 PM
Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

CONGRATULATIONS Pat, on having this blog FEATURED in the Old Farts Club group!    

Dec 06, 2016 05:00 PM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Hi Pat

Yes, estates can sometimes be kinda tricky (I've had several), and may not be quite what they appear to be. And it's best to find out up front, with the trustee or executor (who unfortunately may not know the reality, and realty), along with a careful review of the appropriate documents by someone legally qualified to do so, plus a review of the title report. Some leave things in great shape and not open to question or speculation, while others can be downright ugly and time consuming. And sometimes the issues go beyond the sale of the house, like a business the person operated that must somehow be dissolved.

Jeff

Dec 06, 2016 05:08 PM
Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

Patricia, It is so important tohave a will and in some cases a trust.  I have had trusts in two different states but when I relocated to a different state they were no longer valid.

Dec 06, 2016 06:41 PM
Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

We recently went through this with a family member and, you are SO right - get your affairs in order BEFORE it's too late!  I just hate the thought of property winding up in Probate Court.  Great advice, as always, Patricia Kennedy!

Dec 06, 2016 07:19 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Myrl, both the home and the estate paperwork need lots of attention.

Dec 06, 2016 07:23 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Myrl, and thank your for Old Farts feature!

Dec 06, 2016 07:24 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Jeff, one of the first things is to send the trust agreement, will and any other relevant paperwork to the settlement attorney.

Dec 06, 2016 07:28 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Sybil, after my father retired, my parents moved from Virginia to Maryland and had thiers checked and rewritten.

Dec 06, 2016 07:29 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Debe, probate court is not a fun place!

Dec 06, 2016 07:35 PM
James (Jim) Lawson, DBA
DomainRealty.com LLC - Bonita Springs, FL
Broker Associate, RSPS, BPOR, HI & PE

Excellent advice Pat. I have been through a doozy of an estate sale where I had to track down a mortgage that was sold five times. The attorney was shocked when I gave him the paperwork and debited his trust account. Should have invoiced him for my time!

Dec 06, 2016 09:22 PM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

I couldn't agree more about having those discussions while everyone is alive. Estates can be very tricky.

Dec 07, 2016 04:59 AM
Beth Atalay
Cam Realty and Property Management - Clermont, FL
Cam Realty of Clermont FL

Good morning Patricia, it's best to have everything in order while we can think clearly. Not a good idea to leave it to family members to figure it all out. I've been going through this myself, not fun!

Dec 07, 2016 06:03 AM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

James, I like your attitude!  

Dec 07, 2016 11:38 AM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Kat, they need to be not only alive, but also not yet addled!

Dec 07, 2016 11:39 AM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Beth, it gets really tricky when dementia is involved.  

Dec 07, 2016 11:40 AM
Robert Bob Gilbert
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Anderson Properties - Katy, TX
Your Katy TX ( West of Houston) Real Estate Expert

Pat, Thanks for publihing this excellent post. I will have to check into the trust angle as I did not know it is less messy. 

Dec 07, 2016 01:55 PM
Yolanda Cordova-Gilbert
Richmond, TX

Pat,

 I am an only child and my childhood home is in a living trust...I am glad it was easy for you! Rumor has it that my son and his girlfriend may be moving to DC in about 18 months so I guess we will be seeing you alot!

Dec 07, 2016 05:21 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Bob, it's a whole lot less messy!  The trust can also impact inheritance taxes if the estate is large enough.

Dec 08, 2016 12:45 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Yolanda, it's never really easy because it was your childhood home.  But it's a whole lot less difficult for the heirs to deal with.

And let me know if there is anything I can do for your son and his girlfriend! And it would be great to see more of you and Bob!

Dec 08, 2016 12:46 PM