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Self-Closing Fire Doors

By
Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

Self-closing fire doors.

Fire possibilities are a big deal and fire-safety codes are designed to help put people in a better position to handle themselves should a fire occur.

One such code regards fire doors.

What is a fire door?  One that seals an opening, like the house or a bedroom, against the possibility of a fire progressing from one area to another.

When there is a garage attached to the house a fire door is required between the two spaces.

Fire doors are what you think they are - metal and insulated and made to forestall the progression of a fire from the garage into the house.

One code requirement is this one: 

This is from the International Residency Code, subscribed to by Virginia.  It regards the special hinge in the photo.

That hinge is a self-closing, or so-called tension hinge.  It is one of two for that door.  When set with the proper tension they should close an open door completely.

What does the code say? 

IRC 716.5.9  Door closing.  Fire doors should be self- or automatic-closing in accordance with this section. 

And further, 716.5.9.2  Automatic-closing fire door assemblies shall be self closing in accordance with NFPA 80.

What does the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) 80 say?   5.2.4 Swinging Doors with Builders Hardware or Fire Door Hardware.  (6) The self-closing device is operational, that is, the active door completely closes when operated from the full open position.

The hinge you see in the photo above satisfies all this criteria, WHEN IT IS SET PROPERLY.

Often, in new construction, as I found on this house, the hinges are not set with the proper tension and do not work.  Adjusting the hinges is a simple matter, and the tension can be set to completely close the door.  This not only protects against the progression of a fire, but also carbon monoxide.

What do I do when I see improperly-set fire door hinges during a new construction inspection?  I observe and report!  And inform my client.

My recommendation:  home inspections are just as necessary on new construction as on old.  They are worth every penny.  What would be the catastrophic cost of a home buyer not knowing about a simple thing as a self-closing hinge and then having a fire or carbon monoxide problem happen in the house?  A home inspection is a minuscule cost in comparison.  Home inspectors are informed and do everything they can to pass that information on to their clients.  And they are worth the cost on new and on old construction.

 

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments(30)

Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

Jay- ok, now I'm going to have Larry look at our door.  Don't know what Florida's regulations are. 

Dec 10, 2016 12:10 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Depends on the year a house was built, Kathy, but Florida subscribes to all the codes Virginia does.

Dec 10, 2016 12:48 PM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

                                  Thank you Jay Markanich 

Dec 10, 2016 05:38 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Thank you Kathy!  I hope the post was instructive.

Dec 10, 2016 05:54 PM
Nick Vandekar, 610-203-4543
Realty ONE Group Advocates 484-237-2055 - Downingtown, PA
Selling the Main Line & Chester County

Jay I totally agree and advise all our new construction clients to have a home inspection during the build process and before settlement.

Dec 11, 2016 05:01 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Thanks N&T.  I have been doing them regularly for many decades.

Dec 11, 2016 05:02 AM
Sheila Anderson
Referral Group Incorporated - East Brunswick, NJ
The Real Estate Whisperer Who Listens 732-715-1133

Good morning Jay. I have never had an attached garage but if I did this would very important.

Dec 11, 2016 05:08 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Sheila - My house was built in 1998 and does not have these hinges.  But I could add them!

Dec 11, 2016 05:14 AM
Sheri Sperry - MCNE®
Coldwell Banker Realty - Sedona, AZ
(928) 274-7355 ~ YOUR Solutions REALTOR®

HI Jay Markanich - It is always good to be informed about something like this so that we can be an extra set of eyes for our clients.

Dec 11, 2016 06:55 AM
Hannah Williams
HomeStarr Realty - Philadelphia, PA
Expertise NE Philadelphia & Bucks 215-820-3376

Hi Jay Markanich In our condo builing the fire doors do close automatically 

Dec 11, 2016 07:50 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Proper installation is paramount - not only to actually close the door, but to make it so a person can open it! I've seen some that almost took a strong man to open. Try getting through THAT with an armload of groceries!

Dec 11, 2016 12:25 PM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Jay, the door between the house and the garage does not have to specifically be a fire-rated door.  That is one of three ways to meet the requirement for fire-separation---Per IRC.  By current standards that fire-separation door does need a self-closure device on it however.

Dec 11, 2016 03:18 PM
Sharon Tara
Sharon Tara Transformations - Portsmouth, NH
Retired New Hampshire Home Stager

I have one of those doors and it does shut automatically, but not always fully closed. Sometimes I have to pull it to completely close it. I'll have my husband check the hinge.

Dec 11, 2016 03:59 PM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

This is such important information. I see  fair number of fire doors that are not adjusted correctly and self-closing. And a decent number where the owners have installed a doggie door - ooops, no more fire door.

Jeff

Dec 11, 2016 04:09 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Sheri - that is why I come to AR - to inform (as much as I can) and to be informed!

Hannah - is good.  What more could I say?

Marte - I have actually experienced a door that was very hard to open!

Charlie - remember the pedantic county guys who came to my house to see my basement bedroom (wanting 3 smoke detectors in 14', spaced apart).  They said that if/when I finish the bathroom beside the bedroom I needed a "fire door" because one side would open to a hall which abuts the furnace room!  I said why, since the walls would not be fire walls?  They said, not kidding, "Because..."

 

Dec 11, 2016 04:22 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Sharon - that is an adjustment on the hinge(s).  It's easy, but you can probably find out how to do it on You Tube.

Jeff - I saw one not long ago where the homeowner had put in his own version of a doggie door, cut into the metal door, and it was made out of 1/4" plywood with space all around it, allowing air in and out of the door!

Dec 11, 2016 04:24 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

More great advice, Jay!  And I'm betting that on older homes, the doors between garage and house do not close automatically!

Dec 11, 2016 05:19 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

On my very old home, (1998), which you have been to Pat, the hinges do not close automatically.

Dec 11, 2016 05:21 PM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Jurisdictional inspectors that make up their own rules, not based on the codes, that cannot be supported by the codes, need to be called to task for their actions.  There is typically someone that can be appealed to over their head.

Dec 12, 2016 06:43 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Charlie - on behalf of a client, I got into a long, drawn-out argument, on line, with the head inspector in my county who said they could not be responsible to make sure builders installed faux stone properly.  He said there was too much to consider and look at.  That client had $30K+ in repairs due to bad faux stone.  My argument was that if the county could not protect the consumer, and enforce the installation codes they subscribe to, who else could?  Home inspectors?  Again, silliness.

As to my bedroom, if I did not do what they said they would simply fail the permit.  So taking them to task in my basement wasn't going to work.  I did say to the guy that to have 3 smoke detectors within 14' was "silliness."  He ignored me.

Dec 12, 2016 07:00 AM
Charles Buell

I think as long as builders, homeowners and home inspectors continue to not call jurisdictional inspectors out on their errors, the silliness will continue.  As a builder and a home inspector I know they can be challenged sucessfully.

Dec 12, 2016 07:25 AM