When I am showing some newer homes, I often wonder, will they be able to outlast the 30-year mortgages being used to pay for them?  

It seems that every time I pick up a paper, there is a story about some new building material that sort of flopped.  Then I see siding that was put on strangely, windows that don't quite look right, and don't get me started on plastic plumbing.

Still, there seem to be a lot of home inspectors and even lenders who are wary of the homes that tend to be in my market area - mostly built between about 1750 and 1940.  

A lender whose underwriter was somewhere in the midwest balked at approving a mortgage on a property built in 1914, then restored by one of the city's best contractors.  "But it's so old," he whined!

And I have my heart in my mouth at every home inspection, depending on who's doing it.  There are what I call the New House Guys who point out all of the things that wouldn't pass code today - picking apart the roof, wiring, plumbing and whatever else they can think of.  

Yes, they have staircases that are a little tilty - and not just up and down like they are supposed ot be.  And the floors sometimes creak a little, unless they are the wide plank types we often find, held together with wood pegs.  Some of the cellars have mice and spiders instead of family rooms and media centers , and regardless of what's on the Federal Lead Paint disclosure form, we can pretty much promise our buyers that they can count on lead paint someplace in the house.

At the same time, these places are supported with heavy wood beams.  The foundations are strong and thick.  The floors are real wood, and it's more than a half-inch thick!  The walls are plaster.  These places are old, but they have great bones! 

I think of some of the places I've stayed in European cities.  I used to visit with a friend whose funky apartment on Rue des Ecoles in Paris was built just after the Middle Ages.  The place will be around for another several centuries!  And then look at the buildings in London that survived the air raids during the Second World War. 

Then go look in some of the newer subdivisions with homes unable to withstand months of neglect following a foreclosure!  Between burst pipes, leaking roofs, moldy walls, bugs and squatters, a lot of these places are just not going to make it!  And even the homes that are well cared-for are going to have challenges in their war against gravity.

Time will tell! 

 
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Those are good points, Pat, about the old buildings overseas standing up forever!  I see some modern ones that truly are a worry.
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When I take clients into some of the homes built in the last few years I shake my head and think about the great all brick split level I grew up in.  I just sold ours four years ago and another one last month.  You can't help be amazed that after 50 years at how great the real hardwood floors, plaster walls, brick and block construction looks and feels.  
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Barbara, some of the new condos here, a whole neighborhood of them, sprung up like weeds, and I dunno!  

Cindy, there isn't a lot of real wood in new houses.  It's all that stuff where they take a photo of a wood floor and laminate it onto who knows what.

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I remember how, on one of my first trips to America, I was taken to the construction site of a friend's new home.  It was all framed already, with a little bit of flooring and Tyvek here and there, and he took us "upstairs" to where the bedrooms would be.  I was thinking, that's really thorough how they outline the walls first--presumably so that everything will be really exact later on.  I said that.  Our friend didn't understand my compliment.  And I didn't understand that I had just seen the walls of the house.

Now, 15 years later, I live in one of those cardboard-type houses myself...  never really got used to it.  It's a really nice place, in a location that's perfect for me, but a "real" house?

7:43pm • #4
The workmanship for some of these old homes is so amazing that with care they will stand the test of time.  I have walked into some of these McMansions where the work is so shoddy that I wonder if they will last the year.  I walked into one new home that was so badly designed that I dubbed it the Willie Nelson of construction.  No matter how young it was, it would always look 80.
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I sold a two year old home recently and the buyer had a good inspector who took 3 hours. He found 2cracked  joists in the roof and a few other things. The house was under warranty so the builder took care of it.
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Caterina,  oh, yeah.  Dry wall!  Cardboard.  I'm getting cardboard ceilings put on top of the wallpaper that some little old lady put on top of my plaster ceiling.

Peter, Willie Nelson construction?  I love it!  He's lasted a pretty long time - unless he's not as old as he looks!

And Gita, that seems to happen a lot with newer homes.  I hope the house has a long warranty!

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Pat - I think the quality of construction went downhill in the 70's and cutting corners became the industry standard from then on. You make some great points and as I read through your post I was thinking Europe too. Yup, this is a great example of how old world craftsmanship can withstand the test of time. You can bet there was the same hard work ethic, attention to detail and masterfull skills of the Europeans with most homes built in the US in the early 1900's and before.   
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Carol, Caterina Bannier wrote a blog the other day that got me thinking about this.  It's a great read!
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Patricia,

Interesting observations...not to mention 'old world' crafstmanship!!! Thanks,   Fran

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Fran, there were some major "old world" craftsmanship who were working on the National Cathedral - old European stone masons.  They did beautiful work!
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In Vegas there has been issues with 'construction defects' in the building of new homes - for a time almost all new subdivisions had 'construction defect' lawsuits going on.  It was so bad that there is now a 'construction defect' disclosure required on all resale homes.  They do not make things like they use to!  I prefer older homes to newer.
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Mary, we're seeing some of those in condos around here.
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I often think the same things myself.  I'm a lover of 'heritage homes'...although there aren't that many around here......i try to hint that their are certain inspectors that are more versed in doing thorough inspections on older homes........and that newer inspectors often don't have an 'understanding' of them........it usually works.....Europe.....OMW....give me cobblestones, history, character, flavor.........anyday.........and walking up the stairs to the top of the Leaning Tower of Pisa sure does give things a different perspective...and a crick in the neck!

5:04pm • #14

Hi Pat,

     Nice write up...

I'm RE - Building our home after it burned down...

because the builder didn't put in the  12 needed

Terra-Cotta Chimney Flu Tiles...

     The Building Inspector says to me:

" I wish the builders would come and see the nice job

and strength you have built into this home.

     I've designed and built a home that will stand

up to all but the most severe F-5's., withstand

-0's, and +100's... without much energy and/or

maintainance.  I've also added, 4-Season and

Unique and Custom 360 deg. covered decking.

Finally, I've made it  User  Friendly, with the

Greying of America - designed in.

     Hope to have the home show cased in

Unique Homes in America - Someday ...

Dave

 

   

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Pat - I have seen so much with mold down here!!!! One development in particular I have in mind that had such bad mold problems that animals died and people got sick - and we are talking just under 1 million for a three story townhome!!!! Not just some cheap shack that somebody threw together - these were expensive homes that somebody threw together - then there was litigation and companies out of business and people on the run - a real mess!!!!!

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