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Santa Clara County Probate Broker Kathleen Daniels

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with KD Realty - 408.972.1822 CA DRE#01366594

Evelyn Johnston is hosting a niche contest - Setting Yourself Apart. We are asked to share how we chose our specialty or how it chose us. 

 

While I have been managing probate sales since day one as a real estate agent, I'd not really focused on probate as a niche until approximately 2 years ago. With many starts and stops with my website, I am now well underway in establishing probate real estate as my niche.  

 

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Focusing on listing homes in probate is a natural lean for me.  I worked as a paralegal for 15 years for several top San Jose and Silicon Valley law firms. Nearly 6 of the 15 years I was a probate and estate planning paralegal.  I understand the probate process from the "legal" side as well as the probate sales process when listing a probate home for sale.  

 

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My experience as a paralegal is one way I differentiate myself from other agents.  Being a Certified Probate Real Estate Specialist is another. 

I differentiate myself in another big way with my ongoing higher education as a probate broker. 

 

There are many aspects of probate. The term probate is not a one size fits all.

Probate is a court supervised process. I feel it is important for real estate agents who list and sell probate homes to at have a basic understanding of the terminology.

For example, if the court appointed Personal Representative has full authority under IAEA - what does that mean? How does it impact the sale of a probate home?

 

Personal Representatives (Executors and Administrators) are not required to hire a probate broker however it is prudent to do so.  Like the agents they hire, Personal Representatives also have a fiduciary duty. Such a duty carries with is a standard of care.  

There is no easy button in any specialization in real estate. Probate real estate is no exception. Working with personal representatives requires compassion and patience. Not only are people mourning the loss of a loved one, they are overwhelmed by the magnitude of their court appointed task of administering the estate. 

 

People search the Internet for what they need. Probate is no exception. I do receive many calls from my probate website.  

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Many times people have not yet filed a petition for probate and are looking for a probate attorney.  I do receive referrals from attorneys to list probate homes. It is always nice to refer people to attorneys that I know do a great job. It makes both of our jobs easier. I know they are great at what they do. They know I'll get my job done and they are never left wondering about the status of a probate home I have listed for sale. 

In tandem with my website I do mail personalized letters to personal representatives. Some people call me after receiving my letter. For those that don't, I send follow up letters and sometimes I call them.  Probate real estate requires marketing and follow up. 

I've lost many friends and family members over the years. I managed my mother's care for over 9 years and managed her estate after she passed away in April 2015. To say that I understand the emotions and the challenges of probate is an understatement.

I chose to specialize in probate real estate because I have compassion for people and I enjoy helping personal representatives navigate the overwhelm they feel as they fulfill their fiduciary duties administering a probate estate.  

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“From the moment we met Kathleen, we were impressed with her professionalism, knowledge, patience, respect, humor, attention to detail, and compassion.  She's the Whole Package ~ excellent agent and wonderful human being!  In a potentially stressful experience, we have felt in good hands all along.  We are so grateful and recommend her without hesitation!”

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Comments(23)

Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Broker
Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

Doing probate work as a paralegal undoubtedly sets you far apart from the other agents, but I wonder if it's prudent to promote that aspect too much. I mean what if something goes wrong or the client made some sort of bad decision and then tried to blame it on you by saying you had paralegal experience and they relied on stuff you never told them? Selective memories, and all. It could be a liability for you.

Apr 05, 2017 02:15 PM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist

I simply do not worry about things that are likely never going to happen.  My files are well documented. I do not give legal advice. All my probate clients are instructed to discuss legal matters with their probate attorney. I don't see it any different than any other designation, certification or degree. Thank you for sharing your concern. I appreciate that. 

Apr 05, 2017 08:08 PM
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Broker

For some reason, I do not receive comments when a blogger clicks on the comment to reply directly to my comment instead of using the @symbol. Does that happen to you? If I didn't stop by to see if you had written a new post today and clicked on this link, I would not have know you had responsed. I get messages when people "mention" but not through comments. I wonder if you will get this?

Apr 06, 2017 09:24 AM
Hannah Williams
HomeStarr Realty - Philadelphia, PA
Expertise NE Philadelphia & Bucks 215-820-3376

It is not an easy task when a loved one passes to handle the estate Kathleen Daniels . It is full of emotions and responsibilities . Here you are the perfect person with legal knowledge as well as Real Estate knowledge to guide them on there way .

Apr 05, 2017 02:27 PM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist

Hannah Williams I do feel probate is a natural lean for me. Working with out of state or out of area personal representatives seems to be what I do most of.  Not sure why that is 

Apr 05, 2017 08:09 PM
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

Hi Kathleen... no doubt you had a great "head start" as a paralegal to excel as an agent specializing in probate real estate. You may actually, be the only person I know who does this. (That's not to say there aren't other who work this niche, I just don't know them.)

Apr 05, 2017 02:44 PM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist

Nina Hollander - there are many agents in my area that are doing probate sales. Knowing what I know, I can see by their MLS listing that they don't know what they "should" know and that can get their clients into a pickle.  I don't know everything. No one does. I know what I don't know ... and that is very important. 

Apr 05, 2017 08:11 PM
Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Kathleen you have the perfect background to take on this niche and do extremely well. I do know just a bit of how challenging and technical it can be. I am working on one now and it is going well but it will take some time.

Apr 05, 2017 04:31 PM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist

Anna Banana Kruchten, CRS - they can be time consuming. I've had many long conversations with personal representatives. Many just need to get things off their chest and they need to be heard.  I have two ears that listen well.  I wish you all the best with the probate transaction you are working on. 

Apr 05, 2017 08:13 PM
Lou Ludwig
Ludwig & Associates - Boca Raton, FL
Designations Earned CRB, CRS, CIPS, GRI, SRES, TRC

Kathleen

Working a niche is a great way to recognized as an expert in that niche.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

Apr 05, 2017 05:22 PM
Lou Ludwig
Ludwig & Associates - Boca Raton, FL
Designations Earned CRB, CRS, CIPS, GRI, SRES, TRC

Kathleen

PS . . . . I booked marked the post.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

Apr 05, 2017 05:23 PM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist

Thank you, Lou Ludwig 

Apr 05, 2017 08:13 PM
Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

That's an interesting niche!  And, I can understand why your background as a paralegal may give you an advantage in that realm.

Apr 05, 2017 05:26 PM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist

Myrl Jeffcoat -   I do enjoy helping people. Helping people with probate is a natural lean for me.  Thank you for your comment. 

Apr 05, 2017 08:15 PM
Ed Silva, 203-206-0754
Mapleridge Realty, CT 203-206-0754 - Waterbury, CT
Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally

I have had calls from people looking to sell their homes after a death, and as I know so little about probate, I always suggest that they reach out to the court systems to make sure they are able to sell without issues.

Apr 05, 2017 05:38 PM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist

Ed Silva You are a very wise man.  How states manage and process probate varies from state to state.  Knowing the process and the local rules of court is important. Knowing what is needed prior to listing a home in probate is important as well.  Thank you for your comment. 

Apr 05, 2017 08:17 PM
Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
The People You Know, Like and Trust!

This is very interesting Kathleen Daniels and it sounds like a very specific niche. I don't know of anyone in my market who is specializing like you are...

Apr 05, 2017 08:50 PM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Kathleen this is a tough niche market, I have only done a handful of Probate Sales, some with Court Confirmation others without, it is often hard on the sellers and we have to be cognizant of feelings too, Endre

Apr 05, 2017 11:46 PM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist

It is very hard on the sellers Endre Barath, Jr. - emotions and stress levels run high.

Apr 08, 2017 11:24 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Kathleen, You've found the perfect niche to match up with your life experiences.  Those in need of that particular real estate need can't go wrong hiring you to guide them through the process.

Apr 06, 2017 06:20 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist

Thank you Liz and Bill Spear 

Apr 08, 2017 11:25 AM
Nick Vandekar, 610-203-4543
Realty ONE Group Advocates 484-237-2055 - Downingtown, PA
Selling the Main Line & Chester County

That sounds like finding the right fitting shoe out of a pile. I did not know there was a designation for probate broker/agent but think it would be very interesting course. Part of what I love about real estate is all the different nuances there are and this is another where compassion and knoweldge go a long way to helping people acheive their duty.

Apr 06, 2017 08:17 AM
Elva Branson-Lee
Solid Source Realty GA - Atlanta, GA
CDPE - Atlanta Real Estate & Short Sale Agent

Kathleen, you are smart to niche in an area where you can lead with specialized personal experience. Best wishes for continued success.

Apr 06, 2017 08:43 AM
Lottie Kendall
Compass - San Francisco, CA
Helping make your real estate dreams a reality

You've definitely found the perfect niche, Kathleen. You have the knowledge, expretise and empathy to be the right choice.

Apr 06, 2017 12:32 PM
Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

SO impressive, Kathleen! I am wrapping up a Closing that had to go to probate during the transaction and thankfully I had a bit of experience with it and the attorney was amazing (THANK GOD)! I honestly dread them in my state.

I applaud you and your clients are so very forunate to have you and I wish you so much success with this niche - I know you're going to rock it even more than you do now!

Apr 07, 2017 09:23 PM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist

I am glad that worked out well for you Debe Maxwell, CRS - the attorney makes all the difference.  I've worked with some that are so bad I will not take on a client if they are working with that attorney.  Fortunately, we get to choose who to take on as clients. 

Apr 08, 2017 11:27 AM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Hi Kathleen --- your training, attention to detail and communication skills make you a natural for this aspect of real estate.  

Apr 08, 2017 01:10 PM
Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher

I might have to do a reblog about this one. Very good stuff! I should be back.

Apr 08, 2017 11:03 PM
Beth Bromund
Coldwell Banker Weir Manuel - Rochester, MI
REALTOR (248) 651-3500

It sounds like you have found your perfect niche with your uncommon combination of experience as a paralegal and real estate broker, coupled with your compassion.

Apr 12, 2017 06:17 PM
Kasey & John Boles
Jon Gosche Real Estate, LLC - BoiseMeridianRealEstate.com - Boise, ID
Boise & Meridian, ID Ada/Canyon/Gem/Boise Counties

I could have sworn I already commented on this, I'm sure I read it but perhaps just didn't comment.  This is an incredible niche- very difficult and it's not something I would take on myself, not knowing the ins and outs of it, so kudos to you for doing this and excelling at it.  Happy Friday!  -Kasey

May 05, 2017 07:23 AM
Dave Halpern
Dave Halpern Real Estate Agent, Inc., Louisville, KY (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
Louisville Short Sale Expert

Probate real estate sales are often very complicated and therefore need a highly trained real estate professional to navigate the way. Kathleen Daniels your clients are lucky to have you as their Realtor!

Aug 13, 2017 05:51 PM