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It helps to know the rules.

By
Real Estate Agent with Jameson Sotheby's International Realty

This is yet another case of why it's good to have an experienced and knowledgeable Realtor on your side.

In a recent closing I had agreed to provide a carbon-monoxide detector to the buyer. My seller was required to supply one, and I had plenty.

I was only required to supply one, for the bedroom area, but I supplied two (one for the bedrooms, and one to put in the furnace room)...  these were two high-end, plug in's with back-up batteries (batteries included).  Nice.

When I turned those over at the closing (we have round-table closings, with attorneys on both sides), the buyer's attorney huffed that local law required that the detectors be "hard-wired", and since we hadn't done that... they wanted a $500 credit for their contractor to install them.  The attorney insisted that he knew it was legally required because the contractor who was working on his home's remodel, had told him it was a requirement.

I quickly did two things.

#1) I called the local Fire Chief on speaker phone, who quickly disabused him of that notion.  Plug-in detectors were totally acceptable, and the battery-backup versions were above and beyond requirements.

#2) I went to the local city website, and pulled down the rules about CO detectors, which also showed that plug-ins were totally acceptable... printed those rules out and handed it to the attorney.

The attorney was embarrassed, and called his contractor, on the spot, and read him the riot act. Our attorney was impressed, and pleased.

My gift of $30 worth of carbon monoxide detectors (and more importantly my knowledge of local rules and regulations) saved my seller $500.00.

nice.

Posted by

 ALAN MAY, Realtor®   
Specializing in Evanston Real Estate and North Shore Real Estate

Jameson Sotheby's International Realty, 2934 Central Street, Evanston, IL 60201
Office: 847.869.7300      Cell: 847.924.3313      Email: Almay@aol.com

Evanston Real Estate & North Shore Real Estate
Licensed in Illinois

   

Comments(30)

John Wiley
Fort Myers, FL
Lee County, FL, ECO Broker, GRI, SRES,GREEN,PSA

Alan, you have shown us by example why it is so important to be educated in the business. You are to be commended.

Apr 08, 2017 12:34 PM
Alan May

it really is critical

Apr 08, 2017 01:05 PM
Steve Loynd
Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., - Lincoln, NH
800-926-5653, White Mountains NH

it is always a bonus to dipute a know it all...and rare when it's an attorney as well. Good for you!!

Apr 08, 2017 12:34 PM
Alan May

I was surprised that an attorney would make such a statement, without realizing it was false.

Apr 08, 2017 01:06 PM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Holy Crap Alan May - the carbon detectors you described are nearly $60 each here in Sunny San Jose, CA!  

Way to set the attorney straight.  He go bad intel and relied upon it. His bad! Your Good.  

Apr 08, 2017 12:37 PM
Alan May

yeah... maybe they're worth a bit more than $15/each... probably closer to $30/each.

Apr 08, 2017 01:07 PM
Cheryl Dukes . . . . . Intown Atlanta
Guaranteed Offer for your Home - eXp realty - Atlanta, GA

If it wasn't spelled out in the contract, I wouldn't have provided the hard-wireds or $500 anyway. Good thing you knew the rules and held your ground.

Apr 08, 2017 03:57 PM
Alan May

all the contract called for was "carbon monoxide detector"... 1, within 15 feet of the bedrooms.

Apr 08, 2017 04:24 PM
Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Somebody had some egg on his face! You know your stuff for sure - love this story!

Apr 08, 2017 04:27 PM
Alan May

I think he had the whole omelette.

Apr 08, 2017 04:29 PM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

Good thing you, the experienced and knowledgable real estate professional, was in attendance and ready to set people straight. Obviously, the attorney did NOT know what he was talking about but you did. Yay.

Apr 08, 2017 04:32 PM
Alan May

so many agents don't attend their closings... that would have been a costly error for my sellers... (although I think our attorney would have caught it).

Apr 08, 2017 05:58 PM
Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

Alan- there's so much I love about this post not the least of which is how you stepped up to handle this in a professional manner.  I guess the internet is not the only place where we need to be aware of fake or false news. 

Apr 08, 2017 05:06 PM
Alan May

it's not just for nekkid stuff anymore.

Apr 08, 2017 05:59 PM
Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

I love rules when they work for you like this and I love knowing rules because you can creatively break them when needed.

Apr 08, 2017 05:32 PM
Alan May

knowing the rules can work in your favour.

Apr 08, 2017 05:59 PM
Ed Silva, 203-206-0754
Mapleridge Realty, CT 203-206-0754 - Waterbury, CT
Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally

There is nothing s satisfying as having a smug authority be put in their place and at the same time demonstrate how they are being taken for a ride.

Apr 08, 2017 06:47 PM
Alan May

very satisfying, indeed.

Apr 08, 2017 07:46 PM
Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, CRS
Fathom Realty Washington LLC - Tacoma, WA
South Puget Sound Washington Agent/Broker!

Rookie lawyer mistake, quoting reg and ordinances to Alan May 

Apr 08, 2017 09:34 PM
Alan May

rookie mistake.

Apr 09, 2017 06:12 AM
Eva B. Liland Century 21 Doug Anderson
Century 21 Doug Anderson - Lancaster, CA
Glad to be of Service 661-714-1643

"I love when a pushy know it all fatty gets put in their place." Agreed!

Apr 09, 2017 05:42 AM
Alan May

I'm totally onboard (except for the fatty part).

Apr 09, 2017 06:12 AM
Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

I received a call from a family who just moved into a home. All 8 alarms beep?

It took no time to realize there was some one smoking inside in a smoke free home.

Apr 09, 2017 08:23 AM
Alan May

all 8 alarms... yikes.

Apr 09, 2017 12:47 PM
Mick Michaud
Distinctly Texas Lifestyle Properties, LLC Office:682/498-3107 - Granbury, TX
Your Texas Lifestyle is Here!

Good for you.  I've worked with attorneys in other career fields.  Interesting lot to deal with.  They don't know it all.

Apr 09, 2017 10:28 AM
Alan May

nobody knows it all...

Apr 09, 2017 12:47 PM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Good for you, Alan. It's always worth verifying these sorts of things to be sure. Your seller must be thrilled, for closing and for what you did!

Jeff

Apr 09, 2017 10:53 AM
Alan May

the seller is thrilled.

Apr 09, 2017 12:48 PM
Shirley Coomer
Keller Williams Realty Sonoran Living - Phoenix, AZ
Realtor, Keller Williams Realty, Phoenix Az

You had done your homework and were working from facts.  Unfortunately, the attorney only asked someone and took his word for it.  Haven't I seen on TV that "hearsay" isn't admissible in court?  LOL

Apr 09, 2017 12:09 PM
Alan May

if you make a statement with enough "authority", people will be intimidated into believing you... unless, as in this case, they are very certain and have access to the internet.

Apr 09, 2017 12:49 PM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Very true Alan. Cha-ching for your seller & ta-da for knowing exactly what code was.

Another blow-hard attorney.

Apr 09, 2017 12:17 PM
Alan May

Cha-ching, indeed.

Apr 09, 2017 12:49 PM
Jon Kolsky
Kolsky Realty & Management - Long Beach, CA
Licensed California Real Estate Broker

Alan May ~ it's always funny how people hear things from others and believe it to be true. I'm just glad you weren't buying any of it, great job BTW: Are you sure the buyer's attorney wasn't Donald Trump? You know how Donald is always hearing things 

Apr 10, 2017 09:43 AM
Alan May

you can hear, and you can believe... but it's totally different when you can offer up evidence... (not something that the Donald is very good at).

Apr 10, 2017 10:07 AM
Pat Starnes-Front Gate Realty
Front Gate Real Estate - Brandon, MS
601-991-2900 Office; 601-278-4513 Cell

Like Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi , I'd have loved to be a fly on the wall!

Apr 10, 2017 06:01 PM
Alan May

that would have been one fly-covered wall.

Apr 10, 2017 06:30 PM
Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

I'm glad you knew where to quickly search, and who to contact, in order to dispel the hard wire myth, Alan!  It's good that you prevailed!

Apr 11, 2017 03:34 PM
Alan May

it really is, Myrl.

Apr 11, 2017 05:37 PM
Noah Seidenberg
Coldwell Banker - Evanston, IL
Chicagoland and Suburbs (800) 858-7917

Alan, can I borrow a couple of smoke detectors?

Apr 15, 2017 07:13 AM
Alan May

I've got one left, that you're welcome to...

Apr 15, 2017 12:44 PM