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THE AGENTS THAT DO NOT KNOW?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with people first...then business Ran Right Realty 636943 licensed to thrill

There is a piece of unique property for sale that is non-conforming in nature meaning that it is in a situation where it does not have a common value with the neighborhood. It was grandfathered in 100 years ago when it was the only thing for miles around. Now, it is surrounded by tract homes worth about $400k. They are asking close to $1,000,000.00 for this home

THE SUBJECT

It is being represented as a part of some distant long ago history for the area. Presented on a one acre parcel with stunning views and a long driveway, this is a adobe house with no pool or garage, under HOA and historical society rules with strict building codes for the area

THIS AGAIN?

Anyone wishing to research this property past, present and future can do so assuming they have the skills & the want to. I had an occasion to investigate this home years ago by accident. I had a client who was buying single family homes as an investment using all cash. I ran into a company that owned this

BOUGHT SIGHT UNSEEN

At the then time, this investment company bought this sight unseen at a foreclosure auction. On paper, it was too good to be true. Beautiful area, stunning views on a acre two story landscaped etc that when it came up for auction, they overbid thinking they got a jewel. Later on, they found out it was a lemon

OH NO

The lemon was the price they paid. The house without the hype was only worth what the market said it was worth which included all the restrictions that came with it. The investors woke-up after the fact and wanted to unload this at any price. 

BUY THIS PLEASE

They bought this thinking it was worth a million dollars and paid $600,000.00 in cash for it. When I was talking to them about some other product, they pitched to me to buy this white elephant. I did my homework and then I said I am not interested. They pursued me aggressively as my client had cash

NOT SO FAST....

We will pay you more commission. We will take any offer and on and on. I said you have a property that is not worth what you paid. In fact, it has so many problems that you would need an exact buyer for this which come along when they come along. My research showed the following...

WHATS GOING ON HERE?

It had a long history of being bought and sold including foreclosure and short sale. Someone always bought it for low and then tried to sell it for high.  I analyzed the ten year history and discovered this pattern. What made people buy and regret over and over again?

LACK of DILIGENCE

This property came across to me as a type of Venus Fly Trap where it lures you in with its pluses and when you land, sinks its teeth right into you and your done! Many buyers and banks have fallen for it. How can this be? Now to the title of the post....THE AGENT THAT DOESN'T KNOW...

NEED ANSWERS

A buyer for the property contacted me and asked me what I thought. He was the next "fly" in line for the "fly trap". He had just left the agents open house handling this property. They couldn't answer a multitude of questions but were very supportive in trying to help anyone buy this place What?

TALK TO ME

Is there an HOA here? The neighborhood is under HOA rules. How much? Any restrictions? How did you get your pricing? What can be built here? How come there are no garages? Add about 20 more valid questions and here is the amazing part.....

DON'T KNOW & I THINK SO?

The agents in charge did not know any of this. They were more like hosts and tour guides of this once famous property leaving all relevant data up to the buyer to research. When they were pressed for data, the answers they gave were false and full of error. I was shocked that a Broker would allow this

YOU DO THE WORK

In California, there are standard clauses in Real Estate documents that literally speak of caveat emptor, doing diligence and buyer buys to their own satisfaction. Seller does not warrant to represent anything type of language. Many agents lean on that when they have no answers. It holds but up to a point

THE LISTING

If you as agent have a material fact, they must divulge it. Just stating that buyers are on their own is not sufficient to ward off a lawsuit and errors & omissions insurance are quick to pull-back for those that travel too close or over this disclosure line in the sand. If you list it, you are involved with it

WHERES THE PROFESSIONISM?

Currently, my diligence on this house says it is worth about $500-600k tops not the million they are asking and for many substantial reasons. Those reasons should have been known by the listing agent but instead, they passed that responsibility to buyers. What a waste of time & misrepresentation too

POOR SHOWING

It is interesting to note that days on market for this white elephant from past transactions come close to a year with pricing declining every month. That is the history and the listing agents have nothing to say about any of this. Perhaps they are following their clients instruction? Brokers instruction?

STATE THE OBVIOUS

I beg to differ. I believe the BRE rules should take precedence over the clients instruction and with no conflict either. The current owner purchased it in foreclosure 3 years ago and had to put 35% down to get a loan for the balance. The lender required that much equity or no-go based on...their diligence!

FOOLING AROUND?

Agents: the buck stops with you! Credibility, character and service is what drives our industry and not waiving of rights, pretending not to know and wanting a sale at all costs without regard to the players. That's why we have a statute of limitations that provides for four years. Fool me now, I wake up later?

Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

Bravo, Richie! Well said. I've often questioned whether or not when agents tell sellers their homes are worth more than they really are if they are, in fact, breaking some basic fiduciary requirements of being honest. 

May 12, 2017 07:42 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Nina Hollander ...your commenting stands & thank you Nina

May 12, 2017 07:53 AM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Richie

How often do we see this sort of thing, where not only is the seller out of whack with realty reality, but the agent is not doing their job. 

Jeff

May 12, 2017 08:14 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Richie - I am alwasy fascinated to watch the history of sales. I have long noticed that properties bought at foreclosure auctions too often end up in foreclosure. You expertly showed the reasons.

Interestingly, that people pay no attention to this, donot ask questions why the property does not get out of foreclosures, and simply pump money into it and then are surprised that it turned out to be a lemon.

Guys, you were buying a lemon.

May 12, 2017 08:27 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Jeff Dowler ...the whole post summed up in your decent commenting

Hello Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL ...your commenting stands & thank you Jon

Wonder what Jon Kolsky would think here?

May 12, 2017 09:34 AM
Jon Kolsky
Kolsky Realty & Management - Long Beach, CA
Licensed California Real Estate Broker

Richie Alan Naggar ~ it comes down to buyers doing their due diligence as well as the buyer's agent providing the much needed important data about the home so the buyer can make an educated decision. Without those two important factors, buyer's are just acting in the dark and could very well be the next "fly" in line 

May 12, 2017 10:17 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Hello Jon Kolsky ...I was expecting you. Most excellent commenting & sharing thank you Jon

May 12, 2017 10:37 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

The investor got what he or she should have expected for buying site unseen and not investigating the neighborhood. Even newbie investors have heard that you buy the cheapest (or worst) house in the best neighborhood - not the most expensive one!

As for the agents at the open house - I think they should have hidden their faces in shame for not being able to answer basic questions.

No shortage of unprofessionalism surrounding that house!

May 12, 2017 10:52 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Hi there Marte Cliff ...most excellent commenting & sharing thank you Marte

May 12, 2017 12:15 PM
Anthony Vosilla
Tony's Appraisal Services - Centereach, NY

I have seen these types of properties and issues as an appraiser.  By properly researching the property, ie due diligence, most issues can be discovered and dealt with accordingly.  The bottom line is that both brokers and appraisers need to pay attention and not short cut their responsibilities.  

May 12, 2017 08:08 PM
Dorte Engel
RE/MAX Leading Edge - Bowie, MD
ABC - Annapolis, Bowie, Crofton & rest of Maryland

Dear Richie Alan,

There is something good about growing old, no? You have seen a thing or two & may remember to the benefit of your clients.

May 12, 2017 08:17 PM
John Wiley
Fort Myers, FL
Lee County, FL, ECO Broker, GRI, SRES,GREEN,PSA

Richie, thanks for sharing a valuable lesson.

The consumer and the agent need to know the facts and not let emotion and greed drive the deal.

Thanks

May 13, 2017 04:36 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Hello Anthony Vosilla ...your comment stands and thank you A.V. for the visit

Hi there Dorte...there is wisdom afoot in your commenting thank you 

Hello John Wiley ...it is as simple as you say John....thank you

May 13, 2017 06:41 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

What a fascinating post, Richie Alan Naggar ... both from the aspect of the story of the home itself .. and the handling of its purchase/sale(s).  

Bottomline, your post points out clearly, there is a vast difference between agents.  Some such as yourself, are true professionals and take the time and make the effort to represent their clients thoroughly and well.  Others?  No.

As the story of this home proves, it pays to find and work with you and other agents that perform and service at the same high level.  It's costly if you don't.

Great post ...

Gene 

May 13, 2017 11:39 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi ...most excellent comment & sharing......

May 13, 2017 12:33 PM
Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Wow Richie you'd think folks would check out the history of sales on this Venus Fly Trap... which should clearly raise some serious questions.  But no...they keep allowing themselves to be caught up in some fantasty of making this deal be the 'one' that really does it for them. As for the agents not doing their due dillegence - happens far to often on both sides of the aisle.

May 13, 2017 03:15 PM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Hi there Anna Banana Kruchten, CRS ...the whole post presented in your decent commenting Ms. Nana Thank you

May 13, 2017 03:22 PM