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Why Do I Have To Pay Points?

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Mortgage and Lending with George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages NMLS #65149

Anna 'Banana' Kruchten is hosting an ActiveRain contest this month titled "FAQ Break Into Summer Organized Contest" in which she is challenging us to write 5 new posts answering 5 consumer FAQ's.  This is an easy one for me, because there are at least twice that number of questions I am asked on a regular bases by consumers.  I have already posted a blog on the most FAQ I get from consumers  "What Do I Need To Do To Get Pre-Qualified For A Mortgage?"  So lets go on to the second question I am asked most often.

Why Do I Have To Pay Points?

Not Everyone has to pay "Points", but depending on the loan program, "Points" maybe an automatic charge.  For example Fannie Mae will charge "Points" on all Fannie Mae backed loans, unless the Borrower is putting down 40% or more, no matter how good their credit score are.  Also a Lender may not have a "0 Point" interest rate on a particular day.

"Points" are probably the most I misunderstood component of the mortgage process.  When people hear the word "Points", they automatically begin to have very negative thoughts about it.  While this blog will most likely not change this perception about "Points", I hope it will provide information that may soften some of the negative feelings about "Points.

Let me start off by saying I don't blame Borrowers for having negative feelings about Points.  After all they have probably never heard the word "Points" use in any way but in a negative way.  In this blog I will not avoid the negative aspects of "Points", but I will attempt to show how "Points" can actually be a very positive thing.

First I will not only address but also reinforce the negative aspects of "Points", or as I call them "Bad Points".  Bad Points are Points a Borrower has to pay in the form of a penalty.  Bad Points are charged to a Borrower for various reasons like:

  • Low Credit Scores
  • High Loan To Value (small down payment)
  • Type Of Property
  • Investment Loans

These are not all, but the most common reasons why "Points" are charged, and they represent an additional one time charge to a Borrowers Closing Costs.  "Bad Points" are common in Conventional Mortgages (Fannie Mae) as I previously mentioned above. But "Points" can also be found on Government Loans like FHA, VA, & USDA.  Borrowers are right for having the negative feelings they have about these "Bad Points".  They are not getting anything in return for this additional money they have to pay.  "Bad Points" are a penalty that is imposed on the Borrower because they or the property they are purchasing present a high risk.

But "Points" can also be "Good Points".  For example:

  • A Borrower can pay "Points" to lower his/her interest rate.  These are "Good Points", because they lower the Borrowers interest rate, and it is the Borrower who chooses to pay these "Good Points" or not.  They are being rewarded with a lower interest rate for the extra money they are paying.
  • "Good Points" can also be received in the form of a credit.  A Borrower can choose to receive a higher interest rate, and in return the Lender gives the Borrower a Credit which can be used to reduce the Borrowers Closing Costs.  A Borrower would choose to do this because they do not have enough money for Closing Costs, and the Seller refuses to contribute towards the Borrowers Closing Costs.  Or the Borrower has enough money for Closing Costs, but it will leave them without any money for an emergency, so they would select this option, and get to keep a little bit of their money.

So as you can see "Points" are not all Bad, in fact they can be very Good if used in a positive way.

 

 

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George Souto NMLS# 65149 is a Loan Originator who can assist you with all your #FHA, #CHFA, and #Conventional #mortgage needs in Connecticut. George resides in Middlesex County which includes #Middletown, #Middlefield, #Durham, #Cromwell, #Portland, #Higganum, #Haddam, #East Haddam, #Moodus, #Chester, #Deep River, and #Essex. George can be contacted at (860) 573-1308 or gsouto@mccuemortgage.com

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I am a Mortgage Loan Officer who can assist you with all your mortgage & refinancing needs in
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I can assist you with your Conventional,
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I reside in Middlesex County which includes Middletown, Middlefield, Durham, Cromwell, Portland, Haddam. E. Haddam, Higganum, Chester, Essex, Deep River.

 

Comments(30)

Patricia Feager, MBA, CRS, GRI,MRP
DFW FINE PROPERTIES - Flower Mound, TX
Selling Homes Changing Lives

George Souto - Thank you for explaining this in a very clear manner. Not only is it educational, it's a keeper too!

Jun 05, 2017 08:47 PM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

George points are like commissions for Leaders:)) just kidding, all great points, Endre

Jun 05, 2017 10:10 PM
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Good morning George.  This is good information for those looking to finance a home.

Jun 06, 2017 04:26 AM
Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

Thanks for the information! Someone just asked me recently what's the point of a point. This answers that question.

Jun 06, 2017 04:26 AM
Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR
West USA Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Phoenix Scottsdale. Sellers, Buyers & Relocations

Great post George. You made some very good ... points. But kidding aside, points are indeed misunderstood, and appreciate your explanation.

Jun 06, 2017 05:40 AM
Shirley Coomer
Keller Williams Realty Sonoran Living - Phoenix, AZ
Realtor, Keller Williams Realty, Phoenix Az

Great post.  I had no idea Fannie Mae charged points with less than 40% down.  Wow, good to know!

Jun 06, 2017 05:51 AM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Excellent information.  Thanks for pointing that out!

Jun 06, 2017 06:20 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

I want money by any other name is still a charge...

Points=pay-me $$$ if U want loan

Jun 06, 2017 06:28 AM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good morning George Souto ,

You knocked it out of the park on this one! Congratulations on a well deserved featured post! Many buyers have heard that paying points is too costly and your explanation is a good one.

Jun 06, 2017 06:29 AM
Sheila Anderson
Referral Group Incorporated - East Brunswick, NJ
The Real Estate Whisperer Who Listens 732-715-1133

Good morning George. This is excellent and I'm glad it was featured. You have explaine this sooooo well.

Jun 06, 2017 06:43 AM
Karen Deis
ApartmentToolKit.com - Minneapolis, MN
When In-house training is not enough!

As ususal, you got right to the POINT! 

Jun 06, 2017 07:29 AM
John Wiley
Fort Myers, FL
Lee County, FL, ECO Broker, GRI, SRES,GREEN,PSA

George, thank you for explaining so clearly what "points" really mean and how they affect the mortgage.

Consumers should be aware of this information.

Jun 06, 2017 07:34 AM
Ginny Gorman
RI Real Estate Services ~ 401-529-7849~ RI Waterfront Real Estate - North Kingstown, RI
Homes for Sale in Southern RI and beyond

You are always a wealth of info on Mortgages, George and I learn well from you.

Jun 06, 2017 11:14 AM
Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

THis is so well done - thank you so much! It is one to share with our buyers! 

Jun 07, 2017 04:01 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

Great explanation of "points" here, George Souto.  You're absolutely right when you say there are many misconceptions regarding points.  Your post is a textbook for those with questions ...

Gene 

Jun 07, 2017 02:29 PM
Maggie Dokic /Indialantic | 321-252-8696
Magdalena Dokic - Indialantic, FL
Selling the beach in Florida's space coast

Congratulations on your well deserved feature George! Points can be useful and it's important to understand them.

Jun 08, 2017 08:41 AM
Kasey & John Boles
Jon Gosche Real Estate, LLC - BoiseMeridianRealEstate.com - Boise, ID
Boise & Meridian, ID Ada/Canyon/Gem/Boise Counties

This is great - I am glad that other industry professionals besides just agents are and can do FAQ's.  Good explanation. -Kasey

Jun 08, 2017 09:55 AM
Nathan Gesner
American West Realty and Management - Cody, WY
Broker / Property Manager

This is a good explanation of points, George. Congratulations on the feature!

Jun 09, 2017 06:05 AM
Jan Green - Scottsdale, AZ
Value Added Service, 602-620-2699 - Scottsdale, AZ
HomeSmart Elite Group, REALTOR®, EcoBroker, GREEN

Excellent FAQ post for the contest. Points are a subject of debate for borrowers and this certainly sheds light on that topic.

Jun 09, 2017 05:25 PM
Dorte Engel
RE/MAX Leading Edge - Bowie, MD
ABC - Annapolis, Bowie, Crofton & rest of Maryland

Dear George,

Indeed.

Jul 25, 2018 10:21 AM