"I can't get a mortgage, but the bank sent me another credit card".

A buddy of mine called me this afternoon.

He's not what I'd describe as poor or destitute.  He owns several properties, although he's frustrated that none of them will sell.  He owns more than one car and has the means to take vacations.  My friend is a real estate broker in another state, but has been spending most of his time in the Twin Cities during the past several months.

My friend called to chat.  He's quite bearish about the economy and has dabbled in the stock market, shorting mortgage company stocks like Countrywide and speculating in commodities futures.  He complained to me rather bitterly that he paid nearly eighty bucks to put premium gasoline in his Jaguar today.  And he fretted over being unable to sell either of the two homes he owns in the Minneapolis Saint Paul metro area.

He wanted to refinance one of his properties, but apparently was unable to get a mortage.  He said to me "I've got no problem getting credit cards, lots of them.  But nobody wants to give me a mortgage.  At least the bank sent me another credit card to tide me over for awhile".

My friend talked about his other friends and family members, many of whom are having trouble with the slow national economy.  He said, "most of the people I know are just loading up credit cards, shopping for food and gasoline and waiting for things to get better.  They don't know what else to do".

People used to make fun of loan sharks.  In movies and on television, loan sharks were portrayed as sleazy, ill-mannered, shady characters who lent money at outrageous rates and beat people up when they didn't pay.

Today, the loan sharks in our society wear finely-tailored custom suits and Italian silk ties and $350-a-pair shoes.  They're still doing business the same way they always have.  And these manicured, well-fed, finely-shod loan sharks of today have the nerve to go on television, in front of Congress, and threaten that they will turn off the short-term credit tap unless they are permitted to continue charging obscene "default rates" and to play various other games with consumers.

Make no mistake about it, what they're doing is still loan sharking.  The credit card companies and the banks that back them haven't learned a thing from what is going on.  And they're still pushing credit at young people, college students, the middle class and the elderly.  They don't want the consumer to get out from under their short-term debt burden.  And the mortgage crisis has given them yet another weapon to use against the American public.

 

 
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16 Comments on "I can't get a mortgage, but the bank sent me another credit card".

Sooner or later that bubble is going to burst too.  Too many people have been living on credit cards.

05/16/2008 09:28 PM by Russ Ravary - Michigan Homes for sale - Michigan Real estate & Mortgage info (Remerica Hometown One)


Eric,

good post to be flagged by me. Excellent analogy...love the loan sharks in the suits...so true...they are just doing it in a more respectful way. It's like they figure if they come clean shaven and wearing expensive cloths then they are respectable...instead of old won out cloths a criminal might look like...stereo typing wouldn't you say...I like to call hem the classy criminals.

05/16/2008 09:32 PM by Neal Bloom-Realtor ® Assoc.-CRS-Weston FL (RE/MAX Premier Associates)


Russ -- I agree.  But what's a guy like that to do in today's economy?

He's in real estate and nobody's buying (at least few are buying).  He's in his fifties, so he can't just go out and get a job.  Employers don't want to hire a mid-fifties male, unless he goes to Wal-Mart or a convenience store looking for work.  He's not a welfare case.  His situation makes him one of the displaced middle class who's been squeezed too hard and is out of options.  What's he supposed to do in today's economic situation?  And does anybody care that there are lots of people like that out there, wondering when things will get better?

05/16/2008 09:37 PM by Wayzata Lakes Realty: Eric Kodner Sells Luxury Homes


There are a lot fo people doing that too...that's called reaching the bottom!

05/16/2008 09:40 PM by Joan Mirantz- Concord New Hampshire Realtor (Keeler Family Realtors)


Neal, did you read about the hearings in Washington during the past few weeks with the credit card companies appearing before Congress?  Bernanke suggested that the credit card/short term lending industry be re-regulated.  And the spokesman for the credit card industry and the banks responded with threats and bullying!

These sharks are arrogant and smug.  They're little more than white-collar criminals.  They seem to belive their friends in Washington would never pull the plug on what they've been doing.  Maybe that's true..what's the answer?

05/16/2008 09:44 PM by Wayzata Lakes Realty: Eric Kodner Sells Luxury Homes


Joan, the guy I wrote about isn't unique.  There are a lot of people like him out there.  Ignoring the growing impoverishment of the middle class is a major mistake in America.

05/16/2008 09:46 PM by Wayzata Lakes Realty: Eric Kodner Sells Luxury Homes


Eric - Alleluia! Your so well spoken - this should bea feature post!

05/16/2008 10:56 PM by Carol Culkin (Century 21 - Anita Ferri Realty)


Eric--Unfortunately there are many people out there like your friend. I know several just making it on credit. It is sad that so many college students graduate buried in not just student loan debt but credit card debt...usually for non-durable goods that are long gone too. Educating the younger generation is one way to fix it...but the sharks as you call them "educate" through advertising to get a card and buy now. Good post!

05/17/2008 08:29 AM by Teri Eckholm, Realtor® Anoka County MN (Keller Williams Premier Realty)


Teri -- There's a lot of chatter about "predatory lending" these days, but nothing is more predatory than the way the credit card companies do business.  Targeting students and seniors, deliberately striving to get people hooked on credit, even mired in it, and then charging absurd "default rates" and hidden fees are part of the pattern. 

The public has to demand that the industry be regulated and that the reforms be real, not cosmetic.

05/17/2008 09:13 AM by Wayzata Lakes Realty: Eric Kodner Sells Luxury Homes


Eric, First, I congratulate you for blogging about someone who may see this and call you on it - that got me fired once and all I did was comment on someone's blog with far fewer identifying details.

Second, I agree, "predatory lending" defines the credit card industry today.  I am delinquent on bills occasionally - never used to be in the good old days - and creditors never stop with the phone calls, fees, default rates and anything else they can get away with.  One creditor called the other day and my husband said to call back and talk to me - he was telecommuting that day and I was sleeping in, a rarity.  They actually called six times in a row, caller ID said "cellular call" to disguise their true identity.  I wondered if something had happened to one of my children or a family member even though the area code was not local.  I finally answered out of sheer exhaustion - I was trying to sleep!  A friend told me today that she is being hounded on her cell from a card company she is barely delinquent on for a card that has a $500 credit limit.  Don't they have better things to do, given the late fees and default interest are already in place?  Yes, bring on regulation, please!

Don't get me started on bank fees.  I found out today that one of my many accounts went 9 cents overdrawn and I was charged $28.00.  The punishment must fit the crime. 

05/18/2008 10:05 PM by Susan Walters (Keller Williams Realty, Ann Arbor, MI)


Susan -- The credit card companies are out of control.  Fed Chairman Bernanke has admitted it, although the banks came roaring back with the usual threats to trash the economy if they don't get their way.  Voters are going to have to figure out who has been looking the other way for the past eight years while this kind of abuse has been growing.

05/19/2008 02:13 AM by Madeline Island Realty - Eric Kodner Sells Madeline Island


Excellent post, you certainly hit the nail right on the head. I for one am hoping that SOMEHOW Bernake will be successful with major changes in the laws regulating the credit card industry.

05/20/2008 08:04 PM by Richard Schardt - Triad NC Real Estate (Keller Williams Realty)


Eric, I know who has been looking the other way, and when I was in a fighting mood the other day (no one had come to my open house), I actually picked up the phone to a creditor.  (Citi, in all of your permutations, I will never deal with you again once you are paid and gone!!!)  Anyway, in the lengthy conversation that ensued regarding being paid on commission and currently having six closings "in denial" (I coined that for my deals), the man asked when I would be squaring things up.  I finally said in one long rant, "When George Bush is out of office, the "war" is over, ther real estate/lending crisis is over, health care is affordable, groceries are affordable, gasoline is affordable - can YOU tell me when that is going to happen because that is when you will get paid!"  He actually said there was no need to be upset or angry.  I can only fathom that he is Republican.  There is plenty of reason to be upset and angry.  I felt much better for the rant, said I had somewhere to be, and hung up.  Just hanging on till November....

05/20/2008 11:56 PM by Susan Walters (Keller Williams Realty, Ann Arbor, MI)


Richard, we're all hoping for the same result.  I'm not sure Bernanke's proposals go far enough to rein in the out-of-control credit card industry, but they're a step in the right direction.

05/21/2008 02:24 AM by Madeline Island Realty - Eric Kodner Sells Madeline Island


Susan,

Most of us are hoping for something good to come out of the November elections.  In the meantime, I remind my friends that activism on important issues isn't something that should be done only once every four years.  Blog about the economy, sign a petition or write your senator or representative.  Let's hope some kind of positive change is in the wind!

05/21/2008 02:27 AM by Madeline Island Realty - Eric Kodner Sells Madeline Island


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