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Tales From the Karma Train: In the Driver's Seat

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Real Estate Agent with Long and Foster Real Estate VA License # 0225089470

Tales From the Karma Train:  In the Driver's Seat

If you've been a producing real estate agent for long enough, there is no question that you have witnessed truly awful negotiating tactics on the opposite side of the transaction.  You've probably also seen some truly horrendous personality traits as well.  We are lucky when those things aren't happening with our own clients. 

From time to time I wonder why people think being nasty or insulting is a good line to take in a real estate transaction.  Sometimes they are taking cues from their real estate agent.  Or maybe, like my own mother, they feel the only way they can grab control in a situation is by amping up their anger and act out.  When tactics like that arise on the opposite side of a transaction, I want nothing more than to shut it down.  Of course, I can only do what my clients want me to do.  It is very refreshing to have a client that will not be intimidated by these tactics and push a hard line against a cry baby.  In my opinion, not enough sellers do push back. 

This year, I represented sellers who received an offer from a buyer they had actually ran into while arriving back to their home after a showing.  Mr. Buyer expressed way too much of his hand and Mr. Seller was happy to express that back to me when the lowball offer came in.  "He said he'd do anything for the house.  That is going to be paying full price."  Negotiations were tense.  The Buyer's Agent vacillated between being polite, then turning nasty.  Mr. Buyer got in on it when he copied me on an email telling his agent the house was overpriced and there was no way he was paying full price.  At that point, Mr. Seller and I chatted and I advised him that we needed to go quiet for a day, maybe two.  Let them get the pissing and moaning out of their system and then reconnect. Meanwhile, more showings happened and another offer arrived.  Time to reconnect.  My Seller got exactly what he wanted out of Mr. Buyer.

A late month settlement date was what was agreed to in the contract.  It was a nice surprise, since the sellers had moved out and were leaving in temporary housing in another state, when the buyers wanted to move up settlement by two weeks.  My sellers were thrilled.  They could ditch temporary housing and get the deal done quicker.  We had the buyers initiate an addendum to move up the settlement date to early in the month. 

Evidently, the buyers were so anxious to move up settlement that they had overlooked the reason they had chosen their original late month settlement date.   Apparently, they could get a lower mortgage rate going with the later settlement date than they had originally written in the offer.  So the Buyer's Agent copied the title company, loan officer, his clients  and me on an email assuming it was a non issue to move it back out.  All that mattered was the low rate to the buyers, not how the contract had been amended at the behest of his own clients.

The lender assured me the lower rate was not necessary for the buyers to qualify for the loan.  Sharing this with Mr. Seller, he decided to stand firm.  The buyers, after all were the ones that wanted to move to the earlier date and, as a result, Mr. Seller had moved up his settlement date of his next purchase out of state.  

When the Buyer's Agent and Mr. Buyer (two peas in a rotten pod) were told no, a variety of tactics were unleashed.  Mr. Buyer even called me directly pleading.  He was playing stupid.  He insisted he didn't understand how the settlement date got moved because he had requested later in the month.  Oh please! What he didn't understand was that the world didn't revolve around him.  He had opened the door for the sellers to make a tad more money and move in to their next home earlier.  The sellers had no contractual obligation to accommodate the request to move settlement date again.  Mr. Buyer would be in default if he didn't settle at the amended, earlier settlement date.

Yes, despite an attempt to run around the sellers and assume the date would be moved again, followed by an ugly attempt at bullying, Mr. Buyer and his wife were held to their requested early month settlement date.  Sometimes karma for being a complete jerk in negotiations comes quickly and at the hands of those you verbally abused and insulted.  Had Mr. Buyer and his agent been respectful in their dealings from the beginning, that last minute request to move settlement again would likely have gone down differently.  Maybe the agent and the buyers learned, but somehow, I doubt it.

 

Comments (9)

Hannah Williams
HomeStarr Realty - Philadelphia, PA
Expertise NE Philadelphia & Bucks 215-820-3376

Good story Chris Ann Cleland  best to play nice in the sand box

Dec 28, 2017 02:27 PM
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Chris Ann,

What a story.  In a sense, they got what they deserved.  Some people never learn the simple lesson of being respectful, courteous and nice.  It brings a lot of great karma.  A

Dec 28, 2017 03:49 PM
Chris Ann Cleland

Ron and Alexandra Seigel --You get what you give in this world. 

Dec 28, 2017 07:54 PM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good evening Chris Ann Cleland OMG..I loved this. Definitely a Karma story. When will people learn that lack of respectfulness and courtesy never gets them anything but grief! 

Dec 28, 2017 05:02 PM
Chris Ann Cleland

Dorie Dillard --Disrespect was the name of the game on the other side.  

Dec 28, 2017 07:55 PM
Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

"Mr. Seller and I chatted and I advised him that we needed to go quiet for a day, maybe two."  I love that idea, Chris Ann.  I have used that tactic a few times as well.  I call it a cooling off period.

Dec 29, 2017 08:36 AM
Chris Ann Cleland

Myrl Jeffcoat --We sat and watched the emails flying around that I was being copied on as they melted down.

Dec 29, 2017 09:09 AM
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Broker
Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

Hi Chris Ann: I had a similar disagreement happen. The buyer's agent, at one point, started swearing and yelling. I just said, "I don't have to listen to this," and I hung up on him.

Karma has a way of coming around. Just before closing, I spotted an addendum come through for the seller to sign because the buyer's agent was crediting the buyer a large sum of money toward their closing costs, LOL.

Dec 29, 2017 10:26 AM
Lynn B. Friedman CRS Atlanta, GA 404-617-6375

Chris Ann Cleland 
UNBELIEVABLE!!! Really great question - "Who does that crap?"
or who would think anyone would be fooled like that? DUMMM

Dec 29, 2017 04:53 PM
Chris Ann Cleland

Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Real Estate Agent, Top 1% of Lyon Agents --What I didn't mention, because it was a detail that seemed not worth it, was that when the buyer side didn't get their way, they floated an addendum to the title company and buyer that had whited out the previously amended settlement date and put in the new one.  It appeared the seller had already signed it.  Nice trick, right?  Who does that crap?

Dec 29, 2017 11:41 AM
Lynn B. Friedman CRS Atlanta, GA 404-617-6375
Atlanta Homes ODAT Realty - Love our Great City - Love our Clients! Buckhead - Midtown - Westside - Atlanta, GA
Concierge Service for Our Atlanta Sellers & Buyers

Chris Ann Cleland 
Definitely reminds me of one circumstance I found myself in years ago. That taught me to try to guide every transaction to the most pleasant level possible. Life its too short for unpleasantness.

As Ron and Alexandra Seigel said (#2), "the simple lesson of being respectful, courteous and nice" goes a long way!
All the best - Lynn

Dec 29, 2017 04:51 PM
Chris Ann Cleland

Lynn B. Friedman --Some folks are just incapable of doing anything other than bullying.

Dec 29, 2017 05:18 PM
Margaret Rome Baltimore 410-530-2400
HomeRome Realty 410-530-2400 - Pikesville, MD
Sell Your Home With Margaret Rome

 

Thanks for sharing your Karma train story. Some people negotiate with a hammer and others with a feather when asking for the same thing. They each may get a different out come.

Dec 29, 2017 05:28 PM
Chris Ann Cleland

Margaret Rome, Baltimore Maryland --People aren't inclined to help a bully.

Dec 30, 2017 09:17 AM
Curtis Van Carter
Better Homes & Gardens Wine Country Group - Yountville, CA
Your Napa Valley Broker Extraordinaire

Chris Ann You seem to have your share of these. Glad it worked out for you and your sellers. Have a wonderful New Year's Eve and prosperous 2018. cheers cvc

Dec 31, 2017 08:33 AM
Chris Ann Cleland

Curtis Van Carter --It isn't often I meet people that I don't like or can find a way to get along with.  These were people like that. 

Dec 31, 2017 10:22 AM
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

Happy New Year Chris Ann Cleland 

Jan 01, 2018 08:24 AM
Chris Ann Cleland

Same to you Scott Godzyk .

Jan 01, 2018 08:31 AM