Real estate investors throughout the country including California, the San Francisco Bay Area and Contra Costa County now have an additional challenge when there is a need to refinance their real estate investment properties held in an LLC for liability protection...

Changes in Freddie Mac lending policy: Freddie Mac will not refinance a property that has been held in an LLC at any time in the previous 6 months. Fannie Mae is expected to follow suit. And of course, this may require your lender to do the same.

For some of you this is a ho-hum announcement - another change in policy to be dealt with. If you have never been through this sort of change before, you may be uneasy, even angry. Here is another government backed organization making a decision that will have a major impact on a large part of the investing population - people who invest in real estate in an orderly, responsible fashion and who in no way caused the current mortgage debacle. But all investors are being painted with the same brush.

Changes in government and IRS policy occur all the time. Unless you are in the middle of refinancing your property and you have been stopped cold in your tracks by a Freddie Mac backed lender, there are things you can do and time in which to make an informed decision.

  • Firstly, if you are not planning to refinance your property in the next year, you can leave the property where it is. The LLC will continue to give you the benefits you expected when you set it up. Unless you have an ARM that really needs to be refinanced, you can stay with the same mortgage until you sell the property.

  • Secondly, you can pull the property out of the LLC seven months before you set out to refinance it, and put the property back in after the refinance is complete. Yes, you will have liability exposure during those seven months, so make sure your insurance is paid up and get an umbrella policy.

  • Thirdly, you can find a lender who is willing to refinance the property inside an LLC and pay the higher interest rate.

  • Or fourthly, you can move the property from your LLC to a trust, with the beneficial interest in the trust held by your LLC.

Please note that real property held in trusts do not have court proven liability protection in the event of litigation and there is a risk of personal liability exposure to the real estate investor with this fourth option.

In my humble opinion as a real estate broker, investor and consultant, these recent changes in lending practices are discriminatory and are just another shining example of the feeble and misguided attempts by government backed agencies to discourage real estate investors to assist in turning around our housing crisis.

In fact, these changes are likely to inspire real estate investors to walk away from their rental properties due to the lack of available and affordable financing. Write your local congressman to voice your concerns.

 
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12 Comments on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Conspire to Put Real Estate Investors In Harm's Way...

MAY
21
2008
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Pete, this is one great post.  I learned a lot. At BofA, we cannot finance a property held by an LLC.  AJ

11:15pm • #1
MAY
29
2008

Is your comment regarding trusts not having "proven liability protection in the event of litigation" referring to land trusts in particular or a general statement about any type of trust such as living trusts, etc.?  Perhaps this is also specific to California court rulings? 

I am not lawyer, but when I consulted with a lawyer last year specifically on this issue (this is in Illinois not California), I was informed that as long as the LLC is the sole beneficiary there would be minimal (not zero as there is never zero risk) litigation risk, unless you are referring to civil court rulings which has inherent risk for ALL configurations even the plain vanilla LLC holding real estate case.  This is as far as I understand this situation and again, I am not a lawyer but have sought legal counsel on this numerous times. Thanks -- SPP.

S. Potter
8:35am • #2

Pete: I forgot to ask. Do you have a link to the official press release or document that contained this news?  If you have it, can you please post it as a comment.  Thanks!

S. Potter
8:36am • #3

Pete: I wanted to stress that in my first comment, I was specifically referring to Land Trusts only in Illinois.  Just to be clear.

S. Potter
8:38am • #4

"Is your comment regarding trusts not having "proven liability protection in the event of litigation" referring to land trusts in particular or a general statement about any type of trust such as living trusts, etc.?  Perhaps this is also specific to California court rulings?  

I am not lawyer, but when I consulted with a lawyer last year specifically on this issue (this is in Illinois not California), I was informed that as long as the LLC is the sole beneficiary there would be minimal (not zero as there is never zero risk) litigation risk, unless you are referring to civil court rulings which has inherent risk for ALL configurations even the plain vanilla LLC holding real estate case.  This is as far as I understand this situation and again, I am not a lawyer but have sought legal counsel on this numerous times. Thanks -- SPP." - S. Potter

Thanks for the great questions regarding this recent newspaper article about Freddie Mac and investment properties held in LLC's. It's my understanding the article was referring to the garden variety trusts to hold title of real property as an alternative to an LLC. Land Trusts are a completely different animal and most sophisticated investors hold real property under a Land Trust to provide maximum privacy as well as an additional layer of liability protection when used with an LLC. I recommend reading the book "Land Trusts for Privacy and Profit"- by Mark Warda/Galt Press.

Pete Sabine

ContraCostaCountyMarketWatch.com

 

10:21am • #5

"Pete: I forgot to ask. Do you have a link to the official press release or document that contained this news?  If you have it, can you please post it as a comment.  Thanks!"  - S. Potter

I do not have the link to the official press release. I suggest that you log onto the Freddie Mac web site to find the latest press release.

Pete Sabine

 

10:23am • #6
JUN
02
2008

I think the new policy surrounds 'owner-occupied' loans that have been in an LLC. I think if it is submitted as a non-owner to begin with, it is fine. This is to catch those who are fraudulently calling a non-owner an owner to get better financing.

Mr Mortgage
10:18pm • #7
JUN
05
2008

In addition, this catches the LLC's that have been associated with fraud, deeding of properties without a sale etc. Just a guess but I would say out of all the properties not in an owners name, 95% are trusts and 5% corps.

Mr Mortgage
12:12am • #8

"you can pull the property out of the LLC seven months before you set out to refinance it, and put the property back in after the refinance is complete."

I would have thought that putting it back in an LLC would trigger the 'due on sale' clause.

Thanks for the tip!

9:03am • #9

"you can pull the property out of the LLC seven months before you set out to refinance it, and put the property back in after the refinance is complete."

 I would have thought that putting it back in an LLC would trigger the 'due on sale' clause. - Craig Tone

Hi Craig, if someone is injured on the property and there is litigation as a result during the time when the property is not held in the LLC the investor and his personal assets are at risk - that is the point I am making in my post...

Pete Sabine

ContraCostaLiving.com

 

Thanks for the tip!

Pete Sabine
9:21am • #10

Notification from a recent Freddie Mac lender specifically prohibits the property being placed back into a LLC (Utah). The Lender will enforce the due on sale clause if the property is placed into the LLC. No exception granted on the LLC condition for a new loan. We have also seen lenders reduce the scope of property ownership to four properties from ten for Investors. - M Whitney

M Whitney
12:41pm • #11

"Notification from a recent Freddie Mac lender specifically prohibits the property being placed back into a LLC (Utah). The Lender will enforce the due on sale clause if the property is placed into the LLC. No exception granted on the LLC condition for a new loan. We have also seen lenders reduce the scope of property ownership to four properties from ten for Investors." - M Whitney

It won't be long before these ridiculous investor financing restrictions will encourage real estate investors to mail the keys back to the bank and watch our real estate market spiral out of control. Banks and our government need to pull their heads out of the sand and create sensible financing programs and allow investors to protect their assets from litigation. Investors need to replace homeowner who are unable or unwilling to make their loan payments. There should be a 3 year moratorium on the due on sale clause to allow qualified investors to assume existing loans and take over payments from distressed sellers. All of this makes too much sense which means it will not happen...

Pete Sabine- fed up and angry real estate investor

Pete Sabine
11:35pm • #12

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